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« Reply #14505 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:48:35 »

the first one to a point. I don't think having many young players will work.
I am old enough to remember one (of many) our crisis periods in the 60's - yes I am that old! - Bert Head came in and he was told basically you have got Keith Morgan and a bunch of kids, get on with it!  Made a couple of experienced signings and things didn't turn out too badly, got promoted within two seasons and brought on the likes of Hunt, Summerbee, Woodruff and the Don.
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« Reply #14506 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:57:55 »

One of my main concerns with the Spurs loans is who is choosing them? We have no manager, no set style of play, and no formation or system, so how does someone choose who comes in, and who is that person? We risk having big gaps in our squad depending on how the new manager wants to set his team up, with surplus players in other positions. Unless Jed/Power are deciding what and how we'll play, and the new manager will just take training and stand in the dugout.
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« Reply #14507 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:01:55 »

One of my main concerns with the Spurs loans is who is choosing them? We have no manager, no set style of play, and no formation or system, so how does someone choose who comes in, and who is that person? We risk having big gaps in our squad depending on how the new manager wants to set his team up, with surplus players in other positions. Unless Jed/Power are deciding what and how we'll play, and the new manager will just take training and stand in the dugout.

Lee Power.

I think the rest of your post is pretty much spot on in terms of how a new manager will be expected to fit in.  Whoever comes in, I expect that they're going to be wearing a track-suit in the dug and not a shirt & tie.  [Edited in order to avoid unwanted discussion about tie wearing.]
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« Reply #14508 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:07:46 »

I am old enough to remember one (of many) our crisis periods in the 60's - yes I am that old! - Bert Head came in and he was told basically you have got Keith Morgan and a bunch of kids, get on with it!  Made a couple of experienced signings and things didn't turn out too badly, got promoted within two seasons and brought on the likes of Hunt, Summerbee, Woodruff and the Don.
Our youngsters and Town benefited from it.
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« Reply #14509 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:17:20 »

Lee Power.

I think the rest of your post is pretty much spot on in terms of how a new manager will be expected to fit in.  Whoever comes in, I expect that they're going to be wearing a track-suit in the dug and not a shirt & tie.  [Edited in order to avoid unwanted discussion about tie wearing.]

Does this necessarily spell disaster though?

There are plenty of clubs (admittedly mainly further up the pyramid) who have a footballing director in charge of transfers and building the squad and the manager is much more of a coaching role. Power at least has a footballing background and presumably bringing in players he thinks are good enough. The advantage to this obviously being that you retain more continuity through changing managers and you divide the labour into someone working full time on recruitment and someone on coaching and developing the players.

Doesn't mean it will work, as DRS said if this all goes tits up the board will have to answer for it and rightly so. But feel it's a bit hasty for some to declare it doomed to failure before we've seen who they bring in to replace MacDonald, how that new man's relationship with Power develops and more importantly what the team actually look like in a competitive fixture.

If we get spanked by Peterborough in a couple of weeks I'll be the first to hold my hands up and say Arriba et al called it, but will reserve judgment.
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« Reply #14510 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:21:56 »

Im just a bit miffed how we havent even heard a peep from Lee Power.

Even Sangita Shah has done an interview.
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« Reply #14511 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:36:10 »

Does this necessarily spell disaster though?

You're right...it doesn't.  My comment wasn't intended to damn the strategy completely, so apologies if it read that way.  It might just work.  It might even be a blinding model that months in to the season other clubs are looking at jealously.  It's a punt, for sure.  I'm not going to knock it completely because, even though the strategy is a risky one, at least it's a strategy.  The biggest complaint many of us had until a few weeks ago was that there was no communicated direction or purpose - and now we have that.  (Even if we don't have a manager.)

For there to be the slightest chance of it working, however, I think two things in particular will need to happen.  First, the incoming manager is going to have to buy in to it completely...and for this reason, I'd be quite surprised if it turned out to be someone that Lee Power wasn't already familiar with.  And second, we are going to need a robust core of experienced players to stay to provide some balance to the youth from North London.  Ward staying is a must.  Caddis (still an outside chance, I guess) would be marvellous.  And personally, I'd have Ferry back in a shot if he is still sans club in a week or two.  Can he really have been on that much for wage demands to be such a problem?
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« Reply #14512 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:39:40 »

even though the strategy is a risky one, at least it's a strategy.  The biggest complaint many of us had until a few weeks ago was that there was no communicated direction or purpose - and now we have that.  (Even if we don't have a manager.)

For there to be the slightest chance of it working, however, I think two things in particular will need to happen.  First, the incoming manager is going to have to buy in to it completely...and for this reason, I'd be quite surprised if it turned out to be someone that Lee Power wasn't already familiar with.  And second, we are going to need a robust core of experienced players to stay to provide some balance to the youth from North London.

In agreement on all of that.

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« Reply #14513 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:45:57 »

Im just a bit miffed how we havent even heard a peep from Lee Power.

Even Sangita Shah has done an interview.

I tweeted Jed about this a week ago and he said we would hear within 2 weeks.

I expect he will be at the unveiling of the next manager.
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« Reply #14514 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:50:31 »

Tisdale relied heavily on Perryman at Exeter. If he is to be our new boss then it won't be an alien concept to him.
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« Reply #14515 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:25:30 »

I tweeted Jed about this a week ago and he said we would hear within 2 weeks.

I expect he will be unveiled as the next manager.

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« Reply #14516 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:29:33 »

One of my main concerns with the Spurs loans is who is choosing them? We have no manager, no set style of play, and no formation or system, so how does someone choose who comes in, and who is that person?

Indeed.

People saying "we need another striker if Collins goes" when we might not. The new manager/head coach might have to play 1 upfront to fit in with how Power wants us to do things, you know, playing in one of those continental 4-2-3-1 type formations. We will have to see.
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« Reply #14517 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:01:37 »

I am old enough to remember one (of many) our crisis periods in the 60's - yes I am that old! - Bert Head came in and he was told basically you have got Keith Morgan and a bunch of kids, get on with it!  Made a couple of experienced signings and things didn't turn out too badly, got promoted within two seasons and brought on the likes of Hunt, Summerbee, Woodruff and the Don.

The big difference, though, was that they were OUR youngsters - not another club's.
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« Reply #14518 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:10:13 »

Byrne and Barthram are ours.
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« Reply #14519 on: Friday, July 19, 2013, 12:02:54 »

Bu even though Power has got experience in the game that was as a player, where has he got the experience as a scout to know what type of players we need and that these players are decent at this level.

To take a director of football role usually mean it is someone that is vastly experienced.

I think until a new manager is appointed then we wont really tell who is fully in charge of player recruitment
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