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Hi everyone,

Terry here (the artist formally known as Panda Paws).

Thanks to the admins for sorting out our account; I won't be posting too much on here but we can use this thread for questions, updates, plans etc. Maybe we could pin this thread until December 21?

First update: hats are back in stock. Someone, somewhere mentioned they wanted 10 for family members or something, so hopefully they see this and get their order in this time!

https://ko-fi.com/s/cc302c5b21

Thank you so much for the support so far, it's been overwhelming to say the least.

Most importantly, please please please show up on December 21.

TP

Well done Terry for everything you lot have set up in a short space of time and the momentum you have gained, couldn't think of a better 3 to take this forward!

But absolutely right, a lot of us constantly moan on here and now is the time to do something about it. If able to we must turn up on the 21st and give our full backing and apply as much pressure on the ownership as possible.

Well done guys. I'm so happy to see so much of the fanbase on board! Let's bring these fuckers down.

Must be close to 1k hats sold now. Cracking stuff and nice one Tel et al x

 :bye: :clap:

Morning everyone,

We could do with 6 volunteers for Saturday, handing out leaflets and hats between 1345 and 1430.

If anyone is willing and able to help, can you ping me an email on [email protected] with your mobile number.

Cheers

Just checking, is that email address correct?

I wondered that surely its 69 and not 60?

Good work Terry.

Can we push everyone to try and get tickets in the TE that day, get some noise going. Rather than be spread out and quiet. Plus, it's cheaper so less funds

Amended. Basic admin error.

Are you sure you arent Clem? :)

"Happens to the best of us" - Clem Morfuni

 :D

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

First time poster, ordered a orange hat for the 21st, are people planning on wearing them this weekend?

Absolutely. Should be wearing them every game. Thinking about getting a banner made.  

Will be wearing mine this weekend.

Are hats available to buy this weekend and where abouts will you be positioned? Unsure if the club will try to move you on if selling at the ground.

What happened to the banners/flags lot would they be up for this or still tied in with the club?

Who was that bloke who did all the flags and banners, was it Jaybox?

Have ordered a hat with SO69 but have also ordered a cheap one off Amazon to be here for the game this weekend

I think it was, I did ask the question on twitter if the GW Reds would consider getting back together for this but I believe he said there was no plan to.

Yeah, GW Reds.

He was a big fan of Clem, and was always defending him from criticism.
Think he has somewhat changed his mind now

Fuck sake if Oasis can do it why can't they....

Yeah he cant stand him now

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I think like a lot of people he was taken in by the Morfuni bullshit.
Would be interesting to know what made him see the light.

For me the change came when he threw Rob Angus under the bus.

This is what really annoys me. There is an ever increasing number of examples of Morfuni using people and them eventually falling out. Yet there are still people that think Morfuni has the clubs interests at heart. There’s literally a mountain of evidence to the contrary, it’s absolutely clear the type of character Morfuni is, he’s a pathological liar who only cares about himself and will happily use people to get what he wants.

Not an exclusive position, I don't know of anyone who has met him that has upheld their initial good view of him - Hanners (STBL), GWReds (including Jay), even Dean here to a certain extent.

That's not a criticism of these people. Most of us welcomed him, but only a few of us have met him.

Thing is it doesn't matter if he's sinner or saint. The club is a mess either way. I don't get why some people can't see that and persist with "its fine, its the recritment not Clem".

It started way before for me, but that was probably the point of no return. I stopped believing he might just be incompetent at that point.

Making Rob Angus from the trust the chief exec was a master stroke on Clem’s part.

The Man City thing did it for me.

Especially after ringing season ticket holders begging them to give up refunds

Almost anyone could have taken over just by dint of not being Lee Power - I certainly welcomed it.

He won’t  give a flying fuck when we eventually go tits up. Just leg it back to Oz and never look back.

Wonder if he’s watching The Day of the Jackal and maybe, just a little bit . . .

I can't remember if this came before or after finding out he wanted to keep a convicted money launderer who was here under Power Vice Chairman, but both of those were early WTF signs.

We all jumped on the bandwagon of hope on Day 1. It wasn’t based on evidence. And then on Day 1, they released that ridiculous statement talking about Austin had been beaten up, but was a key figure for the club. From that moment, alarm bells rang - but we tried to ignore them. Zavier Austin is at the absolute heart of this and as much, if not more of a problem than Morfuni. He clearly has some form of leverage over him. If I was part of this mob, and I wanted an untouchable lapdog front man to help deflect blame, I might also choose the guy who lives in Sydney.

You can put glitter on a turd, but it always washes off in the end  ;D

100% on the leverage, I’m convinced without proof that he has shares in the club off the books.

That statement about how Zav was beaten up was published by Zav to send Lee Power a message.. That’s how much he, at least, was involved in the day to day running of the club.

I mean, it was obvious from the spiv-like, childish grasp of the English language, that Zavier Austin wrote the statement that made the takeover of the club news all about Zavier Austin’s black eye.

I am back at Christmas, I'll get Loud & Proud back together, although without Reg having a subtle pop, not sure it would be the same.

Hoping a few of the fans that have decided to stay away are swallowing their pride, (myself included)
If a few more of the fans that decided to stay away start attending and try to bring a friend or encourage another stay awayer to come back.

We are in a terrible state at the moment, really need the fans to back team and help get us out of this.

LOVE THE CLUB
HATE THE BOARD
LOVE THE CLUB
HATE THE BOARD
LOVE THE CLUB
HATE THE BOARD

Back holidays, or back back?

Apologies if I missed it, but any plans on a sea of vocal orange in the town end on the 21st?

would be great to all get together in T2/T3 and put all that energy to good use.

No good being spread all across the DRS.

Not seen anything, but I'm not so sure. I grouping might be batted off as a "troublesome group", a less concentrated splattering "widespread discontent".

Not sure it really matters, the focus will be outside the ground anyway.

Or

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
OUT OUT OUT

Personally think it will go the other way - I have a season ticket but do I want to do a 2.5 hr round trip and give up my Saturday afternoon. Not really.

Completely understand that. When the fun stops, stop.

I think there was reason to get behind Clem for the first year. He brought in Chorley, Garner and a pretty decent experienced squad with some exciting young players. I forgave some of the early red flags.

It was after that it all fell apart for me. The appointments of Sandro and Lindsey (I know he's done well since, but taking a month to appoint the assistant and claim he was your number 1 choice?!) and then everything escalated.

I've been boycotting since the start of last season (I have been to a few games with free tickets) but I will go to the Grimsby game.

Fun stopped some time ago Mate.
Only feels like yesterday when we bumped into each other at Wrexham.
Both of us complaining about getting sunburnt. 4-1 up at halftime.
That precise moment in time was a special time.

Now here we are, no hope and it’s no fun.
Only knows where the Club and myself go from here. 120 mile round home trips feel longer.

I will be on the train Saturday and will be protesting on the 21st with my lad who is back home then.

So wound up and angry.

I was so looking forward to going to the games again after living out of the country for a few years.

It’s taken 18 months for me not to give a shit anymore. 56 years of supporting the club, come what may, and it’s come to this.

Tbh, for me, it’s worse than the team doing so badly. Ned Kelly and his bunch of loathsome spotted reptiles have achieved something I didn’t think was possible - not giving a shit.

Bastards.

You're not wrong.

Its unravelling at such a pace now. We've been through shit times. But this feels different.

Good morning all.
I cannot make the 21st but I have been bought a ticket for Saturday which I have decided not to decline. I hope to be in a sea of orange unlike last season.  :)I
Well done to the organisers for getting a protest up and running. I think it may be too late to force change before we drop. But, i'm in it for the long haul. Let's get rid of these imposters and move towards happier times!
The worry is that Clem sells (assuming he actually owns any of it) to a mirror-image of himself and the decline continues. The club dies if we don't at least try to resuscitate it, so I raise a glass in hope to our future success.  :pint:

Orange hats ready for the weekend, and will be down for the 21st.

As depressing as this all is and I feel exactly the same......but the comeback from this will be epic. Appreciate I went on a massive rant just yesterday and it'll be tough getting back in the league if we go down which we almost certainly will, but our false dawn under Clem shows the potential of the place.

We will get our club back eventually and when we do, I'm here for it. Season ticket, home and away shirts, just take my money whatever league we're in.

I wish I had your level of optimism.

We go down & I don't think I'll ever see Swindon Town in the football league again in my life time.

If we go down, I doubt that we will claw our way back up.

The thing that we have in our favour compared to other league clubs that have gone down and stayed down is the fan base, attendances and potential. I know that it isn't a given but it makes it more attractive for a rise of the phoenix scenario. Clubs like Chester, Bury, Scunthorpe, Hereford etc isn't comparable in that sense. hopefully...

I had Oldham in my list and then took a look and they are a bit weird, league 2 average attendance floated around low 4000. their conference average attendance is now around 6500.

If Clem's still the owner i cant see our attendances in the National League being above 4k. If we have a new owner by then that has invested and things are looking bright we might be able to hit 7k

Grimsby went down and came back up and their attendance is like 5k or something. No disrespect to clubs like Bury but we're a different animal.

This is all based around getting a decent owner in of course. The issue with The National League is only two go up,  so it wouldn't be a given. But I absolutely expect with a decent owner we would be at the right end of the table and competing.

But go down and stick with Clem and the crooks and we could genuinely go down again.

make no mistake the optimism in my post was only dependant on clem being ousted

What can morfuni gain with us dropping out the league?  :hmmm:

Also, does the ground development still have to go ahead if we do drop? Mayne the 2 are connected?  :sherlock:

If we go down with Clem&Co still in charge, we'll go down again.

Is the governance in the NL as stringent, or would it be even easier to get up to some dodgy financial dealings

Easier

Surprised there isn't more interest from the FA, particularly when you look at the history.

It's not the FA's job. Anyone can submit a suspicious activity report to the National Crime Agency though (if there's any evidence)

Just for Christmas.

How's the job hunting going, Rob?

It went well, started end of July with HomeServe.  The downside is the COO is a Walsall man and has been revelling in my misery.

You can get in his good books and get them to stop bombarding me with snail mail trying to get me to sign up to their plumbing cover every 6 weeks or so. I mean it's not far from the front door to the recycling bin, so minor in the grand scope of things, but does seem a little aggressive in their tactics.

Morfuni goes and if we're towards the top end of the NL I think we'd average 7500+ home fans a game. Momentum can and has played a massive part in recent lower league clubs, I've thought last couple years we might benefit from going down to gain that momentum, but all depends on the crooks leaving.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/this-sydney-plumber-saved-an-english-soccer-club-now-the-fans-want-his-head-20241129-p5kung.html

What a load of shite

Behind a pay wall could you copy and paste the text?

Three years ago, Sydney businessman Clem Morfuni was being hailed as a saviour. He became owner of English soccer club Swindon Town just before the 2021-22 season kicked off. Had he not, the club may have died. He endeared himself to supporters, promising to restore their team to its former glory. Long-suffering diehards dared to dream again.

Today, Morfuni is almost a pariah in Swindon, a drab railway town two hours’ drive west of London, where there is little else to do but follow the fortunes of the cherished local soccer team.


Things haven’t been going well. And everyone is blaming him. To the point where he’s effectively being chased out of town.

“Welcome to English football,” Morfuni, a former plumber who founded the Axis Services Group and is worth a reported $200 million, tells this masthead.

“It’s not for the faint-hearted, I’ll tell you.”

Since losing on penalties in League Two’s promotion play-off semi-finals at the end of his first season as owner and chairman, and the high of hosting Manchester City at home in the third round of the FA Cup in that same campaign, Swindon Town has been trapped in a grim downward spiral, churning through players and coaches at an alarming rate.


This week’s 4-0 defeat to Colchester United has bumped them down to last place in League Two; relegation, which some fans believe is a certainty if Morfuni remains in charge, would end their 104-year spell in the Football League and condemn them to semi-professional competition.

Six months ago, the Swindon Town Supporters’ Trust called for Morfuni to step aside, declaring they had lost all confidence and faith in his leadership. The anger and tension has built since then. Last week, a separate fan protest group formed, committing to rolling “non-obstructive” action with the sole purpose of pressuring Morfuni into selling the club, saying they “will not rest” until it happens.

English media typically doesn’t cover the ins and outs of fourth-tier football, but Swindon’s ongoing plight has captured national attention - helped somewhat by the presence of inimitable lower-league quote machine Ian Holloway, who became the sixth permanent manager during Morfuni’s reign as chairman when he was appointed two months ago. Working his first job in four years, Holloway is still yet to record a league victory, and recently suggested their struggles could be because Swindon’s training ground, located near an ancient burial site, is haunted.

According to Sam Morshead, the founder and editor of The Moonraker, an independent website which covers Swindon Town, the relationship between the community and the owner has been strained by the team’s on-field decline - and then snapped entirely when, last year, the club was fined £10,000 by the Football Association because Morfuni failed to disclose that he had sold shares to another party.

“It’s that sort of issue, when you come in on a mandate of transparency, where things have fallen down. Basically, trust has been broken between the fanbase and him,” Morshead says.

“I don’t think he has really clocked that, and he probably feels quite personally affronted by what’s going on at the moment. I can sort of understand that, because he has put a considerable amount of cash into the business - but there’s more to running a football club than there is to running a construction business. And I think the clash of cultures between how he does business to make the money that he has, and how you need to do business to maintain a football community in a lower league club in the UK, has just been incompatible.”

Morfuni only got into club ownership out of a longstanding love for the game, and says he’s still in it for the same reasons. And while he understands where fans are coming from when they say they want him gone, he reckons the reality isn’t so simple.

If he was accused of impropriety, of taking money out of the club or not investing enough in it, he says he could understand. But their budget was doubled this season.

He insists he can still fix things.

“Like I’ve said in the media, show me a proof of funds, a letter of offer, and someone who can do this a lot better than me, and by all means, I’ll sit down with them, and I’ll go through it. And if I believe it’s best for the club, I’ll go,” Morfuni says.

“But where are they? Show me. I’ve had a lot of people come to me and go, ‘Clem, we want to buy the club.’ And I go, ‘Yeah, alright. Have you got a proof of funds?’ ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’ll send you a proof of funds.’ Guess what? No proof of funds.

“So you’re looking for a billionaire who’s going to put millions of pounds into a club, go to an advisory board meeting once a month with the supporters, and if it doesn’t go well, you’re going to get battered. You’re going to get abuse on social media, you and your family.


“I said, if you find that person, can you let me know? Because I want to meet this guy.”

Morfuni is a season ticket holder at Tottenham Hotspur, and points to the treatment of Ange Postecoglou as another example of how fickle fans in England can be.

“If next season, we stay up we get promoted ... mate, they’ll build a statue,” Morfuni says.

“I don’t know what Ange thinks, but at least he’s making four or five million quid a year. If I was making four or five million quid a year out of the club, I’d say, ‘You know what? I can cop it.’ But when you’re copping it, and it’s costing you money? Trust me, it’s not a pleasant place to be at all.

“The English are brutal. It’s their religion, football. But listen, I’ve been in construction for 30 years. I can fight with the best of them.”

What an arrogant wanker. Wonder if this is a bit of a slip too?

Clearly the Sydney Morning Herald is not aware of the Steam museum!

It's standard stuff, just written a bit more sympathetically to the Australian. The complete lack of any reflection is normal now, but how you can write "Swindon Town has been trapped in a grim downward spiral, churning through players and coaches at an alarming rate" and not... consider who the one constant in that time is is remarkable.

Didn't know Clem had a Spurs ST though. Can't imagine he uses that much.

Build a statue of him?! Only effigy of him we’d build is scarecrow version to throw on a bonfire. Every word that comes out of his mouth just reaffirms the type of character he really is!

So disrespectful to the club's history. Build a statue for a chairman who gets us up to the Prem maybe, not promoted from fucking League 2. Pathetic 

I sometimes think people take the mutterings of Calamity Morfuni too seriously.

He's an Antipodean builder for fuck sake- everything is a joke to him.

If ever you wanted a quote to sum up the complete disdain this man has for the fans - it is this:

“If next season, we stay up we get promoted ... mate, they’ll build a statue,” Morfuni says.

No Mr Morfuni, we won’t. You’d be lucky to get a dog shit bin named after you.

Noticed in early articles he talks very differently to the Aussie media.

Arrogant wanker.

Re Nemo’s comment about the Tottenham ST
I remember reading somewhere that Axis were one of the services contractors in the new Spurs stadium construction - hence that was the link.

That in turn was why I assumed he got involved with Swindon - stadium redevelopment was a way he could make money through his Axis business. More difficult now the UK arm has wound up however…

Wonder if its a paid for season ticket or a free one?

Cant be having free ones you know.

What an utter twat, he just doesn't get it, never will.

Even more difficult now considering that his JV partner have publicly come out and said they don't want him here at all. Considering the massive CoI his contracting firm doing the work would have created I was always somewhat surprised that people thought the Trust would just let him get on with it and it would be his big cash bonus for owning this shit show.

Saved?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
So what do you call what you are doing to this club now numbnuts?

well Power got us promoted with a league winning side and we haven't built a statue after him :smugfu:

I think that is amongst his most damaging interviews. I hope the Adver re-print that. He is so unbelievably ignorant when it comes to comms and PR.

There’s an undercurrent of him talking to an Aussie who gets him, unlike the dopey Swindon fans on the other side of the world, who would be so fickle as to build a statue if there was a promotion.

You started with a clean slate, which is why you were once popular Mr Morfuni. As soon as people saw what you actually had to deliver - a complete vacuum of ability, meandering and incoherent rhetoric, and a difficult relationship with the truth - your reputation started to align with your character.

But they won't will they, see also their complete radio silence about the past of those close to the supreme leader.

I don't know how to put images in here but plans for the 21st:

https://x.com/so69fangroup/status/1865079027184132189

If someone else does know how, feel free to rip them and post them.

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That worked better than I'd expected.

Well done to all involved, hope we can get as many people there as possible. My orange hat has arrived in time for tomorrow

I just dug my orange hat out, might go tomorrow now.

One, this shits all over the premise of the actual meaningful and rightly celebrated statue of Don Rodgers and a peak point in the clubs entire history. This just shows Clem up as being even more of a cunt.

Two, we will never, never ever build a statue in your name you fucking cunt, so eff off with trying to victim blame the fans for your own misgivings. Jeez he's more of a narcissist than a narcissist

I bet it is a freebie. The freeloading wanker

As we are marching on the shortest day of the year is it worth ordering a few of these, in orange of course?

https://www.temu.com/ul/kuiper/un9.html?subj=coupon-un&_bg_fs=1&_p_jump_id=895&_x_vst_scene=adg&goods_id=601099670433140&sku_id=17592795394214&adg_ctx=a-786d8caf~c-f5fdfc13~f-513f23ba&_x_ads_sub_channel=shopping&_p_rfs=1&_x_ns_prz_type=-1&_x_ns_sku_id=17592795394214&_x_ns_gid=601099670433140&mrk_rec=1&_x_ads_channel=google&_x_gmc_account=710731536&_x_login_type=Google&_x_ads_account=6950480996&_x_ads_set=21215360554&_x_ads_id=161793958696&_x_ads_creative_id=697208216761&_x_ns_source=g&_x_ns_gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuZz3je-YigMVFYtQBh2n8y4AEAQYBSABEgKtf_D_BwE&_x_ns_placement=&_x_ns_match_type=&_x_ns_ad_position=&_x_ns_product_id=710731536-17592795394214&_x_ns_target=&_x_ns_devicemodel=&_x_ns_wbraid=Cj4KCAiAgdC6BhBrEi4Afa7mOxA1sjmHWVdChIZLsS-zU6mp06qOvxsk1fEYlgV3g6oFmJTMbqTSUmDhGgIQDA&_x_ns_gbraid=0AAAAAo4mICGQEdOQ0RUbFbZ3t0SHRJQ6p&_x_ns_targetid=pla-2299298078558&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuZz3je-YigMVFYtQBh2n8y4AEAQYBSABEgKtf_D_BwE

They last about 10 hours and you will see them in the stands during the match for sure, along with all our hats.  :toocool:

That's a hell of a link  :soapy tit wank:

I doubt they will let you in the stadium with them anyway

Wouldn’t buy anything from Teemu for multiple reasons

Yeah, like it wouldn't get here in time.

Aliexperess is great for Chego (chinese Lego) by the way

At least spell a 3 letter word correctly!

Thank you 😀

At least write a 7{seven} word sentence correctly correctly!

Just noticed that you are two posts away from number 56789, Batch. It's a pretty cool one, as it is not a:

Prime
Fibonacci
Bell
Catalan
Factorial
Regular
Perfect
Palindromic
Polygonal

Thought you might like that one  :)

Now don't post any more as it will mess with everyone's OCD if you go past it!

So 500 freebie orange hats given out Saturday. Is there another batch for the 21st?

At least 300, hopefully more, will be given out on the day plus the 400 pre-sold will be delivered by then too, so well over 1000 hats out there somewhere!

I see that Boo moron was complaining about it on X

I'm blocked. What has he got to say this time?

Coz he didn't get one?

There's a nice Clem it's time to sell banner hanging over White Hart roundabout

Moaning about how people were only wearing them because it was cold and they were free.

Then moaning about children wearing them blaming parents for corrupting them

Then he had a rant about paying people by saying do you wait till payday to pay your barclaycard. That may be the case but at least most people actually pay! This lot dont allegedly

LMFAO fuck sake.

Nothing but a troll that people should just block and not engage with.

Children being taken to the county ground by their parents will probably curse them for something other than the orange hat...

Who’s funding the free hats🤔

Stfcboo :)

🤣🤣

I'm pretty sure he believes it. As do the usual suspects on FB. Indoctrinated.

People keep putting 10p in that imbecile.

Bet he has a Clem tattoo somewhere on his body.

Funding? The sale of the branded hats and some donations. Same as everything else we've spent (leaflets, postage, tifo to come etc).

Who's cash-flowing it? Me, for now, but Stripe will pay out any day now.

If anyone's interested in the detail: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pFLSfIVxwMfS6Ov51jQwkldHpo457I9mVPGIcWspE_0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

now that is #OpenAndTransparent

Fantastic job you’re doing I had no idea how much work you’ve been doing and appreciate your openness sharing the detailed information.

Need to see a more detailed break down of your admin fees I think. What is the thickness of the embroidery thread and is it cotton or polyester? We demand answers!

Brilliant, well explained, maybe the club could use this system and show us the true state of affairs. 

Featuring such breakdowns as enough cocaine to supply Bobby brown and Witney Houston on tour

Big week ahead.Hopefully a massive turnout for the protest on Saturday.

Time to let the charlatans involved in the club,officially or unofficially how much we want them to sell!

#ClemItsTime

Got a few of us up for the protest, having a ‘spoons breakfast first to whet the appetite.

If there’s anything that can unite the fan base it’s this coming Saturday at 12:45. We need as many people there as possible

I’m fully expecting a counter protest from the Clem Saved us fan club.

Hopefully not on here😁

 I mentioned this in a previous  post . i assume there will be some pro consortium presence . could there be some hired heavies?

Who cares, fuck em.

I'm sure there will be eyes on, but this is being done after consultation with the club and OB. It'll be fine.

Hopefully. Will make things interesting. Let’s face it they’re going to be massively outnumbered.

Will probably just be Walker and some of his dribblers from ‘that’ Facebook group…

Couple of the mouthy cunts on facebook I wouldn't mind a word with to be fair. I don't expect them to be anywhere near.

No chance. That would involve them peeling themselves off of their gaming chairs, knocking over empty cans of monster and bottles of piss as they go…

What colour hats are they wearing?

Morfuni bucket hats😁

Purple helmets

 :thumb: looking good

Brilliant.

I think Clementes' footsoldiers have been sent out to social media, lots of very similar posts along the lines of "get behind the team no matter what, if you question their poor performances then it is your fault we are slipping down the league and you are not a real supporter"

If it didn't know any better, I'd say people have been paid for these posts..perhaps this is some of the admin fees.
Then again, paying for things  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I despise the Clem defenders on Facebook.

Part of me wants the club to die just so they get what they deserve.

Morons.

Afternoon all - sharing this, because it's something that I really like and can't wait for you to all hear it too! 👀

https://x.com/so69fangroup/status/1868627137911239004?t=DFmtsjT4YnFR6uLwf2Show&s=19

Going to be a planned ramp-up in comms / creative comms this week. Thanks again to everyone who is engaging with Spirit of 69 and what we're trying to do.

Dan

In the spirit of guessing new signings on tenuous links, Clem It's Time scans rather well to Closing Time by Semisonic...

Keep it going and total respect.
Can only hope we have a decent number and demonstrate solidarity.

 :toocool:

https://www.boohooman.com/eyelash-knit-face-covering-in-orange/BMM93098.html

the latest loaves strangers pod scarf was updated then deleted before I could listen to it

I had previously reached out, and offered creative services with you guys but was totally ignored. I'll go back to washing our Sean's training kit instead then ;)

I'm sure Terry can get/has got in touch with some of his old pals at Sport JOE though, which would bring some much welcome exposure. Good luck with everything this week

Similarly, your post was keyed and delivered before you read it  :)
That's some great auto correct mind  :D

Podscarf is a little nod to Harry Hill

Maybe a rebrand or some new merch. Scarves and Loaves  :D

Slip of the finger from RPU; will be up in the morning.


Hmmm that's odd; I've been trying to get back to everyone so it must have slipped to spam or something.

We've got a few irons in the fire re national media; but with those guys, you never know.

https://x.com/so69fangroup/status/1868702636523892820?t=saTuuRMlnPg7Aq22z0Soow&s=19

Perfection

It's better than that, #ClemIt'sTime

Superb👏

The townend singing that on Sat could be quite something.

Well I for one will be belting it out at the back of the DR.

That is a thing of beauty.

That is very superb, well done all.

It's great.
If only it wasn't hosted on the fetid swamp that is Twitter.

Insta and FB too. Perhaps even BlueSky. Can't confirm.

Oh, fair enough. It's definitely not on Bluesky though, and ‪@loathedstrangers.bsky.social‬ haven't shared it

60 second limit on Bluesky, unfortunately.

Fantastic version. I'll be driving down from Stockport on Saturday for the So69 protest, if anyone in the Manchester area wants a one way lift (I'll be staying over in Wiltshire). In almost 50 years of watching Town, I've never felt so strongly that this is a key date in the club survival. Our plight is reaching national levels, hopefully will get greater attention than Coco the Clown and his ghost.

How can we sleep when the club is burning
How can we cheer when the squad keeps churning

The time has come
To say fair's fair
Clem! Sell the club
Stop the Admin share

How can we sleep when the club is burning
How can we cheer when the squad keeps churning

The time has come
A fact's a fact
It belongs to us
Clem! give it back!

It's all good, I'll drop another message by your main social tomorrow, unless it's been DM limited, you might end up with two for the price of one. Loving the 1MREDVE stuff. Right up my street  ;)

I.Fucking.Love.This.

Fuck off Clem and co.

We could really do with two more marshals on Saturday; any time after 12 at the muster point.

Main aim is to keep people safe and going in the right direction, lining the march. We're expecting to split the march into 2 chunks, to aid getting people across the main road, which will require marshalls blocking traffic.

At Statue Park, we'll need 4 marshals surrounding the statue throughout. If numbers are large, we will use the grass area the other side of the access road. Marshals are also asked, in that case, to keep the access road clear.

If anyone fancies helping, please inbox me your mobile number and I'll add you to the whatsapp.

I guess this fits in here too https://truststfc.com/2024/12/18/december-update-2/

Title of your sex tape

 :pint: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

https://x.com/so69fangroup/status/1870137085241278906?s=46&t=piRVwwO0_HRUci6Hoqonig

Good that

Excellent 👏👏

Only wish I could be there in person to help and assist.
Stay calm and help save Swindon Town FC.
COYMRs

Phenomenal work.

Stirs up hidden emotions and worth fighting for.

See you all tomorrow.

It’s time to go Clem.

Good luck today, there in spirit. I will eat some oranges as a show of support

Always a pleasure to catch up.
I can imagine the old man shouting. “You R’ssss”

Good luck to all those taking part today. I wish I was there taking part too.

Good luck to all involved today, and sincerely thank you very much indeed for all your efforts

Ill be there but have nothing orange to wear.  Im considering having my tube of Voltarol sticking out of a pocket.  Thats all I can find in the house.

Hope to see as many as you as possible on the march or at statue park

I’m the one with the orange hat on 😉

Still some free orange hats flying about i expect.

I now can't go as Mrs has norovirus and not feeling too hot myself as well. Night out for the boxing also cancelled. I'll be watching the game from home. I'm sure i'll get plenty of whatsapp updates from those there.

Currently.

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Fucking hell some turn up already that.

Pics courtesy of Batch, he recons around 200 there at the mo.

Ooh can see me and my boy  :)

Ooops sorry. If anyone doesn't want in the photo I'll edit them!

Too late dude, too late!

WR5 wont mind anyway he loves being a TV celebrity!

😂 Welcome to the "Voltarol Years"

Sponsored by Sanatogen!

Any more?

Apparently there was about 300 to 350 on the march and a couple of hundred more at the ground too.

Haha 😛

That feels about right. March had a really good turnout, statue park bit too but people drifted away to get food. Main learning point was get a better megaphone, nobody could really hear much despite Ivo doing his absolute best.

Lots of orange hats on show on iFollow in the ground.

Megaphone Megafail.

OB reckon a high watermark of 600. 350-400 marching.

Will post properly later but very very grateful.

More photos I've meant more than anything haha.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/24812136.swindon-town-fans-protest-clubs-ownership/

Love it.

I missed out today but it looked good from what I've seen. Anything for new years day or too many folk hungover?

Crewe on the 11th might be better.

Seems like 90% of orange hats wearers were in Don Rogers Stand today.
I guess when you reach 65, you are transferred to the Arkells by default.  :D

For all the fucking idiots who think negativity of a protest gets to the team and thinks we should just eat a money laundered shit sandwich and not worry about things off the pitch, I actually think The Spirit of 69 might have saved our season and here is why. 

An official protest agreed to support the team on the pitch and give an outlet to these problems before the game and support the team from 3pm. Its managed to separate the two and we've got a result.

Who knows, maybe I'm talking bollocks and the fans didn't have as much of a part to play, but I think seperating the two and acknowledging the issues off the pitch on a wide scale for the fans that are frustrated to it, I think its actually helped and kept the two issues separate.

It was great to let off some steam today. Great to see people turn out in such numbers. Great to see that people still care. It’s just the start, as they have said, but it was an excellent start. If we can schedule the marches around Ivo Graham’s schedule, even better. A ringleader was needed, perhaps with a megaphone next time. He was also excellent. Thank you to all of you who organised things.

As for the match, much better again, and similar to Fleetwood in terms of the player’s commitment. I thought Smith was very good taking down the balls over the top, and bringing others into the match. It wasn’t pretty, but in those conditions, it did the job.

And for those that think protesting creates negativity inside the ground, you have proof today that it doesn’t.

I see Holloway has now said that he doesn’t approve of the protest. He’s all for passion as long as it aligns with his ignorant, narrow-minded view of the world. And his employer’s.

Harsh on Holloway - just because he has a different opinion to you? Doesn’t that make you ignorant and narrow minded? Ps I wore an orange hat but can see both sides. It’s almost as if the win didn’t go to script for some people.

It's not a different opinion though is it. He's taking the piss out of fans yet again. Talking about only wearing it because it's cold or I love Holloway hats.

If he comes out and just says I understand why but don't agree then fair enough but yet again he has to have a snide dig

He will keep us up and I'm grateful for that but as a person he's an absolute wanker and I hope in the summer the clubs sold and he fucks off.

Holloway is such a dick. But he's here to get us out the shit. If he does that then fine.

Batch..
Suggest that you need to pull your head in if you still expect some respect when posting.
Ian Holloway seems to have courage and experience to make things happen.
I suggest far more than you have.
COYMRs

You can certainly see why it got toxic at Grimsby. Act like that and you better win.

It’s ok for Holloway to be critical of the fans, but not for the fans to be critical of the club/team/manager.

Perhaps he should remember that one of them is paying to be there

Act like what ?
Saying it as you see it is surely the best and only way forward.
Good on Holloway for having the balls to stand up and say it as he see the problems are and trying like hell to fix it.

Posh, I normally agree with your comments... but sorry this comment is bollocks.

It’s the second time in a week Holloway has made a snide comment about the fans.

He’s a cunt, fuck him.

In technical terms the club is fucked... off the field it seems a basket case.
On the field there is an experienced manager who has the balls to make statements of what is needed and what he wants to do.
I say good on you Ian Holloway
And I enjoyed watching today's game.

Quagmire.
Are you for real ?

Last week he went off on one about a fan who was critical of the teams performance, basically saying the fans should stay away if they are going to have an opinion he doesn’t like.

Yet he’s been critical of the fans on multiple occasions, and continues to do so.

Please explain how that is bollocks?

Yes, the bloke is a bellend.

:)

Of course he can make statements about what he wants to do.

He is not qualified or entitled to tell fans that they’re wrong to protest about incompetent ownership after spending 10 games here.

It’s inside him to look for a fight in every situation. He always has. He’s not bright enough to consider that there might be a valid opinion that’s different to his. Or that he might be less informed by fans who have spent years putting up with this. He’s 100% in the wrong here.

Next you will say Donald Trump is a cunt ?

Seriously
Holloway should keep away from being dragged into anything related to Morfuni, running of the club and frustrations from supporters about these matters.
However what I have seen and heard he has improved onfield performances excluding Colchester
So he would get my vote. So far

He is

No ones disagreeing with that

Is this a serious question?

The majority of voting Americans don't agree with you.
Perhaps there is some of the "green eyed" monsters showing here ?
Personally, I think the world needs Trump as Britain need Nigel Farage 😉

I think the spirit of 69 organisers need to get honest with themselves. The protests aren’t about the quality of the food offering, the pre- match entertainment, the signage around the ground or the toilets… they’re about RESULTS. We are in danger of going out the league, that’s what it’s about, if we were in the top 3 the protests wouldn’t be happening. As someone who wore an orange hat yesterday my major concern is this could drive a massive wedge between Clem and the supporters . Clem will say fuck it, I’m going to stop investing, I’m going to sell our best players and by the way I’m still not going to sell the club until I’ve made my money back and then some. That’s the danger here.

You make it sound as though these are independent outcomes.
The reason we are in this state is because of systemic under-investment and mismanagement.  Barring a miracle the scenario of us being at the top of the table with this regime is fantasy. Of course the protests aren't directly about the factors you've listed; they're symptoms that are further indications of the harm being caused to this club.

And if Clem thinks that driving the club further down, as you suggest he might, is anything other than a sure fire way to eliminate any value from the club then he must be crazy as well as incompetent!

Are you trolling here?

Clem’s not investing. It’s all loans he’ll want it back. It’s lending, not investing & its entirely possibly the money he’s lending the club is directly coming out the club as ‘admin fees’

Even with the so called ‘investment’ every single thing related to the club has declined. Everything.

He already sells each & every player that a bid comes in but also lets high earners go for free. We’ll see that again in January

….and I haven’t even mentioned Kiely, Hart or Austin.


I’m not sure why I even engaged with this post…

Are you for real ??,  if you can’t see he’s doing that already then you’re blind.

Have heard that Grimsby fans wearing orange hats were told by stewards that if they did not remove they would be ejected.  Can’t confirm that but I know that a fan in the town end was told by stewards to remove an orange tabard,  under what regulations ??.  Stewards on an ego trip, I’ll continue to wear whatever i want,  fuck ‘em.

Someone take the toilet duck off Rowley Birkin from across the ocean, for fucks sake!

Why wear the orange hat then?

The whole movement is not results driven at all, it's about the absolutely diabolical way that the club is run, the lack of comms, the lack of decent football staff at the club, the lack of any cohesive plans put in place to take the club forward. Where is the investment in the training ground, the academy, the actual ground. According to initial plans Clem put in place, we should by now have a roof on the SB. The bloody thing is more or less condemned. The director of football and Danny Rose have just upped and left for Salford, the marketing guru STILL hasn't been appointed and the club is selling the majority of its stock via a third party vendor. The reason results aren't good is because the business is being run by a load of chancers, who evidently (it's about 4 years into the process) DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING and trying to do things, on the cheap.

Of course if we were high in the league the protests wouldn't be quite so vociferous, but the facts of the matter we've dropped to our lowest position in history, because of the malaise behind the scenes. Clem won't stop funding the club because then it goes into Admin and potentially he doesn't get a penny of his investment back.

I've been a member of this forum since day 1 and have to say, this thread contains some of the most remarkable posts I've ever read. Take a bow Robinz and Bob1978 :clap: :clap: :clap:

To be absolutely fair wearing an orange tabard is going to make you look like a steward, I can see why they wouldn't be keen on that.

I assume that the tabard has potential to clash with stewards or other match day ground staff…

Just because he has a different opinion? Its a twattish comment.

And so is yours. Who wanted us to lose?

This

Also this. If people can't work out why its a twatish comment then they're not really trying.

It isn't. Its spot on.

 :nod:

Are you incapable of understanding on the pitch performances have nothing to do with him making twatish comments and coming across as a bit of a cunt?

There is no correlation at all.

No they're about all of it. If we win 10 games in a row then we still want Clem and the criminals gone.

This comment is slightly better than the idiots who post "Clem out mob are quiet tonight" after a win.

You don't get it.

Either that or we're all blind to all this investment Clem is doing.

Wouldn't surprise me if platinum heavies end up having a pop at people in orange at some point. Same thuggish cunts that were here under Power.

Its staggering how little some people still get it. I expect it on the facebook groups but not on here to this degree.

I don’t do Facebook but Mrs Audrey does. She’s trying to get an explanation from someone on there who maintains that if Clem goes, the club goes. She doesn’t swear much but the word ‘fuckwit’ was mentioned.

Thanks Shaun Taylor.
Glad you were amused..
I find it so interesting seeing the diversity of Swindon supporters. From left wing militants to right wing Tories. Freedom fighters to terrorists in a blink of an eye.
Can't wait to see the reaction when Nigel Farage becomes President whoops PM.
As we all can see STFC is caught in a downward "loop" that clearly needs a factory reset.
A complete clear out.
This should have been done last year especially after the Aldershot FA Cup embarrassment.
What surprised me is that 300 only supporter's supported the protest march yesterday.
United we are not, divided the club will not survive.

No, it doesn’t.

Holloway is entitled to an opinion. If he is to air that opinion on local radio, it needs to be informed, because he has influence. Instead, he has taken no time to understand the issues, and he has decided to express that opinion with aggression last week, and disdain this week. He could have chosen not to start on a fan last week. This week he could have chosen to say “I don’t agree with their opinion, and I’d approach things differently, but I appreciate that they care about the club and it’s their choice.” That’s what a professional would have done, if they disagree. A better approach would be to say “I’d prefer to focus on the match.”

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Frigby
Have you considered that Ian Holloway is not as smart with words as you are.
Agreed, he could and should of handled the situation better. But he didn't
Currently, the club does not have any PR people to tell supporters what they want to hear.
Would you prefer Kennedy with all his blarney or Holloway with his divided comments.
Because that is whats on offer my friend.
For the record my choice would Holloway everytime.

Does criticising Holloway for making shitty snide comments mean he'd prefer Kennedy then?

Didn't realise that.

Did you get out the bed on the wrong side.
Simply put
Would you like a smooth talking Irishman who didn't achieve anything or seemingly straightforward manager who obviously has difficulties with PR
You decide ?

It doesn’t have to be a choice?

I’d prefer neither of them - let’s not pretend Holloway has come in and turned things around, we are lower in the table than when he took over.

Fuck me this is like pulling teeth.

Where does criticising Holloway mean you must prefer Kennedy?

and where is the correlation between results and having a problem with Holloway acting a cunt?

You're having your own conversation with your own rules attached that nobody else is having.

I personally think Holloway is getting better performance from the squad than Kennedy was.
Think we look better at the back. More potent going forwards & more combative in midfield.
Less silly mistakes too.

However, when I listen to Holloway talk - I’ll be honest, I listen to the football stuff. For the most part he talks relative sense there. Outside of football talk I really don’t listen - he goes into crap stand up comedian down the pub act.

I can tolerate it at the expense of results. Certainly in the short term where we desperately need results…

100%

 :nod:

Or maybe we get rid of the useless cunts that chose both of them, along with Flynn, Gunning, Morris etc... who have basically overseen a managed decline of the club to our lowest position in any of our lifetimes.

I vote for this.

Someone gets it.

+1

Trump is mega

Amen

The orange hats are worn by proper fans who want this club to survive. Others obviously don't give a fuck.

I blame Mildenhall.

When talking of someone to blame  .
You can't go past Margaret Thatcher for causing every fucking problem currently known to mankind.

This is true.
My Cousin is a Grimsby fan, travelled down with his Mates and 2 were told to take off their hats.
They put them back on🤣

Credit a few of their lot yesterday that were behind us.🙌🙌

Clem keeping the same stewarding/security firms in place was one of the early red flags for me, before I even knew who Adam Hart was.

I'm sure some of the more normal stewards would have been getting their instructions from Powers platinum thugs that are still around. They're on the list of who we need a clean break from.

I could see a few orange hats in the away end, and saw a few giving us a round of applause as the match went past them. Fair play to them, proper supporters Grimsby

Grimsby fans have been here, their support was most welcome

Very late in the day but well done to the organisers and all the helpers and marchers.  Hard work, attention to detail and learnings for the future (the loud hailer for eg).  I just joined in for the Statue Park leg.  

What I particularly appreciated was the emphasis on good conduct and positivity towards the team on the pitch.  I thought that  transferred so well to the support inside the ground.  It also enabled the protest movement over ownership to be acceptable to 99% of the fans, inc. families and children and irrespective of a number of individuals not (yet!) wholly on board.

STFC is like family and we all have to be included.  I think a prospective new owner (with good intentions) would like the love and positivity shown.

Get it forwaaaard, you Reds!

I assume the Supporters Club are not in favour of the protests.

They were handing out OSC santa hats yesterday and the comment made to me when handed a hat was "Here you go, you can swap your hat now"

Mention politics once more in this thread and you're banned for a week. Fucking try me, I'm looking for an excuse.

What’s do you expect with that dick Spencer as vice chair.

I argued against that comment too. All I got was those ridiculous laughing emojis.. from Clarke and Weyman

And in a nutshell, while I presume trying to provoke a reaction, you have hit the nail on the head to a degree.  People are NOT INVESTING, they are hanging on for their share.  For some people it's precisely what you describe - Standing and Power were sharing transfer fees received, Power got greedy and we ended up where we are now thanks to an internal coup.

Zav - we know about Karachi, I presume there is more.

Kiely - fees for services (confirmed), owed a bunch of money (unlikely he had that much himself by the way, no financial background to suggest it).

Nicholls - churns lots of players through us, receives a % of every contract negotiated from the players even if not directly from us.

Standing - no way he walked away being owed several million without having a way of thinking he was going to get it back once legal ownership of the shares changed.

Zav/Standings lawyer - owed a bunch of money

Clem - used funds from his other business, which he owed to creditors, to loan STFC.  Always been upfront for nearly 10 years on why - he wanted the stadium development contract.

Nobody is investing - everyone is owed money or finding ways of earning it.

That's without the underlying whiff of Money Laundering given past history of some of those running our club.

So yes - we are already at the point you mention.  No protest will change that, we are there already and have been for 4 years since Power went rogue, likely well before then.

I still don’t see how Clem can benefit from having 50% of the JV

What is clear from this thread and the events of yesterday is that the SO69 group are very clear about what they are protesting about whilst being respectful and consious that there is also a group of fans that don't agree with them and they are fine with that.

Whereas the group of fans that don't agree with the SO69 protests are very vocal in telling anyone that does support the protests that they are wrong.  In the past 24 hours I have seen lots of noise on SM from non SO69 supporters and then I jump on here and see the posters being vocal about the protests are the ones that don't agree with it.  If you don't agreee with it, that's fine, but why feel the need to tell those that do that their opinion is wrong?

I get that people don't agree with SO69, but I don't feel the urge to get on SM and here and tell them that they are wrong, it's their opinion..

As has shown in this thread, if you feel the need to tell groups with a different opinion to you that they are wrong, then that goes a long way to creating that divide that you spend a lot of time harping on about.  In the meantime, the SO69 supporters will continue to demonstrate peacfully about the problems that they believe is killing our club - if you don't want to see it or hear about it, unfollow the group and anyone that follows it, don't visit this thread, and you will be able to carry on without having to see anything that winds you up enough to feel the need to shout that other peoples opinions are wrong - simples.

A little bit on the valuation of the business, but mostly tying the club into a contract with his chosen contractors.  Regardless of ownership in the future.

The Power thing for me is frustrating; he got hold of the Arbib/Black debentures but I can't find the price. "10p in the paand guv"? Maybe, who knows.

I know nothing about the finances in respect to Morfuni subsequently and I won't speculate, if anyone knows specifics get it out there, knowledge is power!

Would have told them to fuck off.

What on earth are you waffling about?

Two morons in a pod.

But people think the world revolves around them, especially online. See Ricky Gervais and guitar lessons.

He's that fucking delusional he probably thinks the trust will agree to them redeveloping.

I’m assuming that was the first group that was put forward by the club & the JV said NO, it needs to be a credible contractor, hence why Clem fell out with the Trust & the Trust wrote the open letter.

To be fair it’s hard to think of anything of that type that the club have done that has been done well.

I tried to explain to Weyman that Morfuni owned 15% of the club when Power was owner and he wouldnt have it. I even posted a club statement staing this fact and the court papers, and he still said it was bullshit

Thick as fuck

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/swindon-town-fans-years-hurt-3445720

Surely it would be fantastic if this article could be circulation in Australia.

The worst is that idiot from Sydney, Steve Hall who goes on coffee dates with Morfuni. He’s now accusing So69 of hijacking the clubs history.

A really good article.  A must read for those who don't understand.

A few on here for a start  :D

What I find interesting about the SO69 'dissenters' is that, from reports, the atmosphere on Saturday at the CG was as good as it has been in quite some time. It's clear that the message from them is that whilst protests are happening outside, in the ground everyone gets behind the team, regardless of the colour of the hats. Ultimately league survival is absolutely key. The irony is that SO69 have been open, honest and full of clarity. Which is the absolute opposite of the ownership at STFC.

It will be interesting to see what's next on the agenda.

Ah yeah,him. Called the protesters a "mob". Totally inaccurate description

I do think scoring after three minutes is quite good for the atmosphere too, we should try that more often.

Great article that...

I'm pretty sure it will be read in Australia 🤔

Certainly more chance if its shared by everyone on X and FB.

Needs circulating.

Fair.

Steve Hall, Anthony Hall. Anyone noticing a pattern?

No
To the Australian news papers who 3 years ago were singing Morfunis praises.
I will try and find the articles and their reporters.

Another twat that ignores you when you bring up very valid points about the likes of Zav and Adam Hart only to reappear elsewhere. Like Rob Clarke or whatever his name is.

Huge, if true.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: what a fucking dickhead!

Fuck 'all?

My wife joked to a guy who sits a few seats along from us that he was wearing the wrong colour hat (this is a guy who we have a chat to every game) and he said he doesn't beliove in the protest.

His thinking is "Be grateful for what you have got. We would have gone under if not for the owners."

He explained this with no malice or anger against the orange element, it is just his belief, which he reiterated after Mrs F explained a bit about the concerns of the protest minded fans.

 :D

I'll let the lads know to do it again on Boxing Day!

He paid for his ticket, hes entitled to have his opinion. Shouldnt be disprespected (as im sure he wasnt).

BUT...

It cuts both ways.

Somebody wants to protest, then thats fine too....

.https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/24813266.ian-holloway-swindon-town-fan-protest-not-representative/

Exactly

Apart from it is Ian. Its been surveyed.

Ian is here to manage and shouldn’t make comment. He needs a job so will always have Clems back.

The article reads as though Holloway believes the protest is directed at him. If he genuinely believes that I can understand him being a bit defensive, but it would also indicate he's completely missed the point.

Holloway:

“I am asking everybody who enjoyed what they saw today to please come back and if you are not enjoying it then you have got a choice.

“If you don’t like me or the club or what we are doing then don’t come, I believe that I will get thousands who will come.

“If you are going to try and convince someone by giving them a free hat then I think that is an absolute load of nonsense".


Ian - it is not all about you. In fact, it as absolutely nothing - nothing whatsoever - to do with you.

It's the ill informed ramblings of an old journeyman manager who hasn't bothered finding out what the protest is actually about and so has just assumed what he thinks it might be about and got cross as a result.

Best ignored I think, disappointing as it is

Definately this. Hes hardly going to come out and say he agrees with the protest anyway as we want the person who gave him the job to leave, so he will fear for his own future.

Ollie, you will stay in a job if you keep winning games, simple, whoever the owner is.

Ollie was on Talksport this morning saying how much he loves it here and that the players are slowly buying into his ideas.

Hardly surprising the manager doesnt know the ins and outs of the club considering he was appointed 10 minutes after the last manager was sacked.

Due dilligence not done and desperation on hia part i suspect

Either way, its a foolish stance

Exactly that. Ask him about the goings on at Bristol Rovers over recent years and he would know.

I think he thinks everything is about him, unfortunately.

A mouthpiece, it's pretty obvious. Club trying to keep us away. Keep the orange protest going guys, be wearing my hat to every game I attend :toocool:

perhaps someone from TSO69 should sit him down and explain to him exactly what it is all about- he MIGHT then get it?

Hope so

I think we will all be happy if he keeps winning games, as that will keep us in the FL.

Ultimately, only a change of ownership group (because just replacing Clem with another patsy won't help), is going to move the club forward.

But if I remember correctly he did say don’t blame the players blame me ?. Yet he kicks off even when no one is blaming him.  As already said he needs to look into what the protests are about.
The guy really can be a prick.

Exactly. The protest is about the ownership, the football is a result of that too.

I listened to the full interview and Holloway made some valid points that no club including Swindon has a divine right to be in the EFL, you have to earnt it and clubs can get into a downward spiral of negativity.

Then he goes full on Kurtan Mucklowe from This Country with his orange hat rant. Maybe he is trying a bit of siege mentality and I noticed the players like Bycroft, who has been dropped, all hugging him post game. Suggests the players like him.

The negativity doesn’t come from results - it emanates from the boardroom with 4 years of continuing decline both on and off the pitch.

It comes from having convicted criminals associated with the club.

It comes from lies from the owner - shares etc

It comes from the revolving door of employees

It comes from crumbling infrastructure

It comes from continued failure to pay the bills.

It comes from EFL raps on the knuckles ad nauseum

It comes from a failure to even acknowledge any of the above.

Holloway said he'd be happy to sit down and chat to the guy who 'had words' with him at Bradford. (whether he actually would is a matter of conjecture !).

So would it be an idea for someone from So69 to offer to sit down and explain the situation to him, so it's made clear that the protest has absolutely nothing to do with him, or the players  :hmmm:

Digby,

I think I understand your post and in a perfect world your ideas could and possibly would work.

However, it is not a perfect world and Swindon's current position is far from becoming a win / win situation.

In technical terms STFC ( the whole club) has entered into a "spiraling mentality" situation where it is close to  losing control.

I am just like the next person on here... when it comes to knowing what will happen next. Who knows

In a previous life i was involved with electronic design and if this type of "loop" issue (positive feedback) happened generally you would want to shut everything down very fast. Hopefully understanding and learning what issues caused the melt down. This should have happened years ago at STFC.

An opportunity was lost last summer when large numbers of long term ST holders still purchased their tickets and continued to feed the monster. Suggest that was the time to bring change to the club.

My opinion of the current situation and trying to stay positive is. Spirit of 69 has started fantastically well and the Trust must join their band and continue to work together as one. Then to bring everything they genuinely and confidently known to be  true concerning the current owners to the public domain in the hope to educate the 80% of loyal supporters who for years after years to come will continue to buy STs. Explain, no tell them the reasons why they should NOT continue to finance these owners with their next seasons ST purchases.    

In the mean time every genuine Swindon supporter needs to do their part to help the club and encourage Ian Holloway and this team with the hope that they can survive the real possibility relegation.

Just hope its not to late. Happy Christmas to all.

There unfortunatley seems to be an element of fans that beileve because you support the protests you are not a real fan. Im looking at you Weyman and Clarke.

Only caught the last few minutes of the OSC ‘live’ last night.

I think it’s fair to say that given how pissed off Vic Morgan was about the inaccurate Charlie Austin hall of fame ‘omission’, that the OSC won’t be backing the protests any time soon  :D

The "if you're not happy don't come" comment isn't exactly understanding is it.

What did he say?

It's a stupid comment, not turning up directly effects the transfer budget.

In a nutshell, at pains to point out it was nothing to do with the club and that the decision was made by him and others.

The topic was then shut down before Dan could reply.

Funnily enough, no mention of the other calendar entries!

Guys
Strongly suggest you don't pick up on every word spoken and put your spin on it.
Keep to the narrative of educating the fans who are either unaware or don't want to know of the goings on at the club which is currently.killing it.
Remember PR wins wars.

I think it’s fair to say there are lots of different opinions and perspectives in the fan base - as lin as we all get behind the team which we did on Saturday then all is good.

There is a guy in our WhatsApp Group who left Scotland at 1am to make the protests and the game on Saturday. He was saying he was chatting to some people who were against the protest including some fella that seemed to think he was the world's greatest fan because he had left wherever he lived at 6am and was giving it the 'I'm so loyal blah blah'. Needless to say he was quickly put in his place.

To be fair he did give hunt five minutes at the start to make a thank you speech and take a bow. I’ve got to take issue with hunt’s assertion that those who don’t wear an orange hat are in his words, ‘happy with the rein of Morfuni’ that’s quite a divisive  thing to say imo.

Well, if that isn’t true - then why would you be against the reign of Morfuni & not wear an orange hat?

The protests are right there. You either agree with them or you don’t. No middle ground really.

It's perfectly possible just to want to wear your own hat, or to support a goal without visibly showing it - not wanting to argue with people near you who disagree perhaps.

There's always middle ground.

Personally I found the hat a bit tight on my clearly outsized bonce..

If you can't see what's happening to this club in the last few years then maybe you need to book an opticians appointment before worrying about an orange hat.

A pretty niche joke I made on twitter about Adam Hart and sim cards got 35 likes and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have happened even a year ago. A lot of people have educated themselves in that time, even if many are willfully ignorant and like it that way.

Good old Craig.True(protesting) fan

For anyone who missed this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMHHy3gVh84

It's all about the facts for me, can I wear orange underpants instead?

Don't forget your orange hats tomorrow

Serious question. What is it you're protesting about exactly?

What's been done, or not done, by the current owner that means them owning the club is unacceptable?

I keep reading the slightly disingenuous line that "it's not about the on pitch performance", but it clearly fucking is, unless we're expected to believe that the campaign starts up in earnest when we hit bottom of the league just by coincidence.

So tell me. What is it you want? Because the only demand I've seen "Sell now" is a nonsense unless you're looking to buy. Are you?

The information is pretty widely available across the Internet mate. Google it. Look at spirit of 69 socials. Better yet, read this thread properly. Don't see why it needs be spoonfed to you in a reply because you don't want to look for it or are being facetious.

There’s a very easy and straightforward answer. Do you want a club that involves a convicted drug money launderer, a convicted drug dealer once one of Britain’s Most Wanted and a convicted wife beater. We’ve had numerous lies told. But even if this wasn’t the case the people running the club are completely incompetent.

It really makes no difference if we’re fighting relegation or up amongst the play off teams.

I want a club to be proud of.

I think when you say 'not about on pitch performance' its more 'not directly about on pitch performance'.

The fact that we are shit on the pitch is largely because of the off the field shambles, it's not a totally unrelated coincidence. Well run clubs (more often than not) win more games of football than shambolically run ones. Always exceptions (hi Crawley) but not very many.

For me It's totally about direction of travel on the pitch, because of the shambles off of if.

Holloway may be an effective sticky plaster, but there's been no change behind the scenes. He is just a sicky plaster.

There is a clear danger the club could go down to the cesspit that is non league.

Spirit of 69 clearly stated if we win 10 games in a row, it doesn't change needing change off the pitch, but you still get fuckwits posting gloating posts on Facebook because we won.

It's fucking painful people that stupid exist and that we're unfortunate enough that they support swindon so we have to see their fucking asinine comments.

And these people are who? Presumably they're recent arrivals as there weren't any protests last season?

If I Google Spirit of 69 I get swamped with pages related to the anti racist skinhead movement. Might have been worth the campaign doing that before they went with the name because it means their on line visability is for shit.

These people have launched a campaign to drive the owner out of their club. I assumed that meant there was a coherent  list of  issues and demands that was relatively easy to access.

It's kind of where most people would start a campaign. If that exists just point me at it.

Try and research some of the names of those 'associated' with the club/owner.
How did you feel about Power?
I see your avatar has it's hands over it's eyes, how apt.

Don’t pretend you don’t know the names.

It’s the season on season cumulative effect of shitness and the never ending ‘admin’ errors and watching the stadium falling to bits. There’s only so much people can take before the gravity of it all hits home. We, as a club, are in the gutter face down. We need somebody to at least turn us over and get us looking up towards the light again.

Nobody is demanding success on the pitch - we just want a club to be proud of supporting. We need to shake the ‘Swindle’ shit off our shoes once and for all.

NO. MORE. BULLSHIT.

It's got demonstrably worse since last season, and no sign of change.

You don't have to agree with the protests, but if it's not obvious why they are happening I suggest you've been living under a rock.

They/we just want mourfuni to commit to selling the club.

Fucking hell, it's only difficult to find if you want it to be. Here's the twitter handle which I'm sure you found in about 30 seconds @so69fangroup

Are you Rob Clarke?

Sell now" is a nonsense unless you're looking to buy. Are you?

2 bingo hits in one reply. Ian Holloways "nonsense" and buy the club. If you don't know why by now and you have missed everything in the press surrounding the protest then you can't look behind someone fishing for shit replies

I have no fucking idea who you're talking about you prick. I'm as out of the loop as it's possible to be.

And your list of everything that's been wrong with the club for the last 2 decades being placed at the door of someone who's run the place for 2 years doesn't convince me this campaign has a fucking clue what it wants.

I've seen the same group of people decide that the "current owners" aren't fit to run "their club" every 3 years or so for over a decade. Oddly the only owners fans never turned against were the one group that despite having plenty of resources never made any progress on or off the field.

Yes the ground is a mess. It's been a mess for decades.  At least now it's a mess the club own a stake in and can develop.

Presumably the "everything about the club is a shambles" thing just ignores that the academy is in the best shape it's ever been in, the youth teams performing better than ever, youth teamers  are actually becoming pros either for money elsewhere or actually graduating to our first team for the first time in fucking years.

Pretty sure the women's teams made progress too?

Is there an explanation for that?

And you can spare me your moral indignation about someone with a criminal past having some vague connection with the club. Not too many years ago you were all somehow managing to persuade yourselves that chanting the name of an actual Fascist was fine because the first team were winning games.

You can’t be fucking serious.

No you can't seriously think anyone with a passing interest in the club you support also spends their time poring over 2 years worth of internet forum threads full of rumour and gossip to be able to know WTF you're banging on about.

Can I make a polite suggestion. If any of you are involved in this campaign adjust your approach. Because responding to questions with "you should already know this" makes it difficult to win people over.

I'm old enough to have been supporting the club when it paid half the squad off the books to reduce tribunal transfer fees and defraud the Revenue, and would bet club money on the team's results to cover the bonus fund and on one memorable occasion when money was really tight bet on the team to lose a fixture which we then lost 5-0.

Pretty much every player and member of staff was involved in a criminal conspiracy.

I'm struggling to find the repairs to the floor in the Legends Lounge being delayed that indicative of corruption after that TBH.

If you only have a passing interest then why are you so bothered?

Let’s face it, the club has been run by cunts for years, supported by cunts for even longer and we’re all just a bunch of cunts on this forum arguing about the different bunch of cunts managing it and playing for it year in year out.

If Clem sold it, it’d just be to another cunt you’d be moaning about in 6 months time and calling on them to sell it to another cunt.

Eat cunt, sleep cunt, repeat cunt, orange hat…

The protest came about as a culmination of years of shite. Fully justified. Long may it continue.

Vague connection? Zav Austin was who Morfuni wanted as Vice Chairman to oversee the club when he’s not around. The same Zav Austin who was convicted of money laundering, who was beaten up on his doorstep in front of his wife and kids for reasons not for this forum.

Anyway, you know you’ve lost the argument when you have to resort to personal insults.

So you held a protest in December 2024 motivated by the presence of Austin who joined the Board in 2015 under Lee Power, who Clem tried to appoint as Vice Chair in 2021, and now isn't on the board, owns no shares and holds no position at the club?

Timing is a bit odd TBH?

I'd bet £100 that at least half of your orange battered brethren have no idea who Austin is.

I can't comprehend how people like you actually exist.

Have you been living under a rock?

It's scary there's fans like you. Genuinely. Your type are a threat to the future of our football club. You'd happily let it die.

Dalumpimunki

Unfortunately you are right, there are possibly 50% (or higher } long standing and loyal STFC supporters would not have a clue of what is happening behind the scenes at the club. And these supporters possibly don't want to know either. They go to the football for the enjoyment of football and get away for the pressures of day to day living.
Like you I have supported the club through many periods of ups and downs dating back to 1963.
My questions to you would be..

1/ Should the supporters who are aware of the "goings on" try to inform the less informed ?.
2/ In your opinion should we allow people like the current owners take advantage of the loyal  fans of the club for their financial gains ?

Will be Interesting to see your reply.  

    

Timing is spot on. As demonstrated 500 last home game.

if you followed the club you'd have seen there was an attempted protest last year that failed.

Of course the protest has come about now, in part due to the dire results over the last couple of years and our downward trajectory. Results make people question the ownership. Fans dig a little deeper as to who is involved.
It ain't rocket science. If you don't know the full facts then don't bother sticking your oar in.

Did you try 'Spirit of 69 Swindon' Or did that not occur to you to try?

Like, are you trying to be an idiot here?

Lets do it together shall we

https://www.google.com/search?q=spirit+of+69+swindon&rlz=1C1GCEU_en-GBGB1099GB1099&oq=spi&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDAgAECMYJxiABBiKBTIMCAAQIxgnGIAEGIoFMgYIARBFGDkyDQgCEAAYkQIYgAQYigUyEwgDEC4YxwEYkQIY0QMYgAQYigUyDAgEEAAYQxiABBiKBTIGCAUQRRg9MgYIBhBFGDwyBggHEEUYPdIBCDIxMDdqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Oh look, the first is a link to a podcast that explains everything.

The second is an adver article.

You're either just happy being an ignorant twat or you're trying to get a rise out of people. Possibly both true here.

Good job dickhead.

It's pretty clear they're making a fuss for the sake of it. They aren't stupid.

I'd understand and respect arguing reasons against protesting, even if I don't agree with them. This is a Facebook group special though.

Dalumpimunki,

Some notes in response to your comments.

- We have zero interest in convincing people or changing people's mind. We serve to highlight the gross managed decline and operational negligence conducted by Mr Morfuni, and to bring people of similar opinions together.

- If you're happy with the direction of travel of our club, both on and of field, under Mr Morfuni then we respect that. Keep backing the team, as we are, and maybe we'll even be lucky enough to avoid back-to-back record low finishes. Ignorance is bliss; I wish I was able to blindly watch STFC without caring about the long-term health of our community asset.

- If you're interested in educating yourself about our message, then there are plenty of resources. If you're not, that's ok, but respectfully, don't then pick holes in something you're not willing to learn about.

- If you did spend a single second learning about us, you'd know we don't have a list of demands, and never will. We are a single-issue fan-action group; our only demand is Mr Morfuni takes accountability for the consistent and systemic incompetence, and publicly lists the club for sale, allowing someone capable of running a football club to take over.

See you in orange on February 8.

The ironic thing is that we get a few good results and the SO69 group get people coming out against them accusing them of protesting only about results, yet it's these guys that wait until we get a few good results to start taking offense to the fact that the protests are happening.

There was a txt into BBC yesterday that was read out that said "stick that 3 points in your Orange hats you paper fans" not only does this make zero sense whatsoever, but i don't get the mentality of throwing insults at a different group of fans that want the same thing, just have a different opinion of how to go about it.

If you don't support the protest and are happy being run in the way that we have been for the past few years that has seen consistent decline in quality of everyting at the club off the pitch (which has led to the decline in quality on the pitch, and therefore our position in the pyramid) then that's fine, but why do you feel the need to throw insults out to another group of fans that have a different opinion to you?

It's just all a bit of a weird mentality in my eyes - don't get it.  Why are you even commenting on a thread about the SO69 if you have no interest in supporting it or looking into the reasons for the protest?  If you genuinely don't know and are just looking for reasons to throw rocks, just crawl back under the rock, i am sure it is a really nice quiet comfortable place, and will remain to be so when we end up in the NL.

I think a number of 'fans' are stuck in a 2021 time warp, thinking Clem is their best mate  :D

It's truly bizarre. A couple of wins and all of a sudden everything's perfect.

Ive seen fans predicting a play off charge and ‘something special is being built’

thicker than pig shit. fuck me.

Most of his fans are 70 plus old blokes that like that he poured a few pints and shook a few hands when he came in and utterly clueless on anything since, mixed with being a bit dim.

Guessing this is another of the same.

Yeah......whilst yesterday was fun and great to win, lets not get too carried away on building that statue for Clem just yet.

Being well over seventy I respectfully object to being encompassed by the above generality!

Quite!

Apologies and glad to hear it! Its hard not to notice that 99% of the Clem fan club seem to be from a certain demographic though.

Strongly suggest that all possible insults are kept well away from any form of public media.
Whether "we" are 70 plus or 60, 50 or 40 and below we are all hopefully wanting the best for STFC.
 Important thing is sticking together.

Good point - I look at this forum and the insults just put me off the whole orange hat thing. For the record I’m in my 40’s.

Yeah, it’s the insults putting you off the orange hat ‘thing’

So stop pretending the protests have nothing to do with the league position.

If we were top of the league you'd have the same 15 moaning gets that hang around the boardroom thread looking for things to get outraged about.

Regardless of what "we" post on here, other than the So69 account "we" are just fans not ambassadors.

The official organisers of the protest have been extremely respectful of all views as far as I've seen.

I'm not. For me they are linked and everything startsv with the ownership. I refer you to this:

League position has definitely been a catalyst but let’s be honest - people haven’t been happy with the ownership (….and the hangers on) since the end of the first season.

Kiely, Hart & Austin - their involvement , Karachi, the share transfer & admin fees increasing. Decrease in playing budget, letting players (McDonald) go for free when under contract. Turn over of staff, unqualified staff put in important roles / multiple roles. Ed Brand. Issues with kit suppliers. Not paying the JV on time, not paying policing & ambulance. That part of land in the car park, that fucking Mercedes.

I’m sure there are more glaring examples - they have all been contentious points discussed on here for the last couple of years.
…but to say the discontent only happened when we went bottom is rubbish.
Was it the straw that broke the camels back - to an extent, yes. Was the Camels back fine before it - no.

Trust had already said their bit before that too.

but we aren't top of the league, are we?

we aren't even in the top 7.

or top half.

or top 18.

Each year under this ownership has shown decline.

I bet those pesky Morecambe fans wouldn't be protesting either if they were top of the league.

It's almost like there's a correlation between these things.

Who'd have thought!

We've had owners we've disliked before but they haven't had us in such a dire league position as this, getting worse each year. We want the club to be in a better position than it is, on and off the pitch. What's so hard to understand?
Same half a dozen whiners as usual.

For me it's not about who the owner is, many football club owners are dodgy as it's a self regulated industry with potentially enormous returns, which attracts gamblers and cash rich individuals - so if Clem sells I think it's unlikely we are going to get completely shot of unwanted characters in the background.

All I want to see is that we are getting the basics right, have a decent match day experience and see progress each year and we just aren't getting that.

I'd therefore be happy with Clem if he
 - employed a CEO with a service industry or elite sport background
 - employed qualified staff (even part-time) for activities such as marketing/finance etc
 - made sure that there was enough staff and stock to serve everyone, that wants one, a pasty/pint on every match day
 - put some stock in the shop to sell at Xmas
 - Has a sensible, clear, forward looking strategy rather than what appears to be a reactive, chaotic and ill informed approach to decision making
 - Learns from mistakes not blame others for them

Just stop winging it FFS

Fucking unbelievable the shite being talked. Really is.

The links to criminals and us having issues like that due to a lack of pot to piss in are almost certainly related though.

This is a bit random, and I researched this off the back of seeing that York City are about to spend 350k on a striker. (if the rumours on socials are true - Josh Stones from Wigan) Anyway, I was interested to see their ownership details and on their board are 2 Canadian Billionaires along with 2 members of the supporters Trust.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yorkcityfc/23620164.uggla-family-completes-takeover-york-city-football-club/

Looking around at other clubs who have recently been taken over by wealthy foreign investment you have Walsall, Wrexham and Wycombe who are doing pretty well and then at the opposite end you've got Gillingham and Carlisle where it hasn't really worked out yet. (although I believe a lot of groundwork has been done at Carlisle re training ground/academy investment etc)

I'd like to think somewhere along the line we still may be seen as a club with huge potential for new owners. The money for Clubs appears to be from North America at the moment and you have to wonder if the Trust/SO69 have something up their sleeves. It's all well and good asking Clem to actively put the club up for sale, but there has to be viable owners for the whole chain to work.

The up front fee is said to be nearer £50k - 100k with the rest as add ons. But still, I cant see us signing anyone for 50p let alone £50k.

It'll be loans and free agents in January almost certainly. It's always the case that we have to shift players out before we bring anyone in.

I think you've just outlined yourself how there are viable buyers out there, if you're willing to be realistic and actually have a want to sell. I think the trust and/or so69 having something up their sleeves though is wishful thinking and the so69 have been pretty clear that they do not.

Yeah, sadly I agree it's probably wishful thinking, but without that, there isn't a huge amount else. :)

 - We know there have been and continue to be interested parties.
 - We know the club is not "up for sale" per se; i.e. actively seeking a sale via a prospectus, investment decks, hiring brokers/corp finance orgs and the like.
 - We know there are a number of international consortiums, specifically US ones, who are actively looking at EFL clubs.
 - We know that those consortiums and other parties have found or will find it extremely difficult dealing with our ownership structure as it stands.

Did you just choose to ignore our response as it wasn't in line with your misunderstanding of what we're doing?

We're regrouping Monday to plan the next phase, including our second day of action, v Port Vale on Feb 8.

All respectful comments, feedback, tips, media connections, ideas welcome. No such thing as a bad idea, but vibe remains the same (nothing that disrupts the game).

Tango Dan hunt

In-game banners? Or does that disrupts the game?

Crystal Palace did one a couple years back away at Arsenal. That one has stuck with me since. 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13052326/roy-hodgson-crystal-palace-manager-understands-fans-frustration-after-negative-banners-unveiled-at-arsenal

I like the idea of a large Clem Out billboard somewhere around the town.

Sell the orange hats in the club shop😁

Ooh, port vale. Good choice  :)

No aggro :D

Spirit of 69...
To see what happens in the future. Experience has shown me to look what happened in the past will help. No, I am not suggesting digging up someones driveway.
However. Morfuni used the Australian press to his advantage when he supposedly purchased and saved our club. His stories also spread to the UK.
Well, suggest a follow up article three years later splashed in the Aussie press (in his own back yard) will make a serious impact on his ego.
No emotion just stick to the facts would be my suggest.

Would we trust a US consortium with the best interests of STFC ? Look at what has happened to Man U under a US consortium and look at Carlisle - bottom of the league after sacking their hero manager. If you think Morfuni doesn’t understand football in this country I’d suggest there are a fair few us consortiums who understand it even less.

Better the drug dealers and money launderers you know?!

Joking aside, this all comes down to people’s relative hopes and aspirations for the club I think. In simple terms, anyone who accepts the status quo is unlikely to support SO69’s objectives. Those people are as likely to enjoy L2, as they are the conference or the Championship. That is 100% fine in my view. Those fans are just as worthy as anyone in an orange hat.

But nobody can credibly say that this ownership group have demonstrated any of the high performance standards needed on and off the pitch to sustain long term growth and success. Every metric shows the opposite. Whether it’s the serious matters of player quality, staff turnover, staff numbers, inability to keep promises regarding development - or the trivial, such as botching the reflooring of a bar.

New owners may not either. But there comes a point when it is not “better the devil (or money launderer, or drug dealer) you know. I hope for better than what we have, in the long term, and I’d bet my house that these owners cannot deliver it.

In August 2021:

1.My aim is to build a sustainable Championship club.
2.To own the County ground with the fans.
3.To improve and modernise the County Ground.
4.To find and develop our own training ground.
5.To have the best academy outside of the Premier league.
6.To have a young first team with players that have come through the academy.
7.To have a fan base that is growing and where all the kids in the town are Swindon fans and their heroes are Swindon players.

1 out of 7 with support from an external benefactor (2).

The bloke is a liar, a chancer and has brought convicted criminals to the Club

I have more than enough evidence.

Interesting.

I don't think anyone thinks a new owner minus the crooks will necessarily be utopia and immediately propel us towards the champions league....but for me it's the bare minimum for buying tickets and giving the club my money.

Probably more so than a drug dealer & a money launderer

…it’s odd though isnt it. You’ve been singing Holloway’s praises recently (and rightfully so) but we only got Holloway in because we sacked Kennedy & took the gamble that another manager might do a better job.

A gamble, certainly. One worth taking, yes.

Yet when it comes to our owners you’re happy to stick to the devil you know because a US consortium *might* not understand football in this country.

Interesting how your stance changes on two comparable things.

6 is also true but massively helped by the pathway being much easier with us being so much shitter than expected.

Monkey see. Monkey do. Not sure what variety of bleach ''dacuntimunki'' {mods, get to it} is on but it seems even stronger than the stuff RNZ regularly gulps. Perhaps they're chugging industrial sized tubs of Zoflora on an occasional evening?  :hmmm:

Takes allsorts I guess. If it is the partaking of occasionally knocking back tumblers of C21H38ClN and C15H20O then it does give some resolution to why they are writing as they do...

...if they're a combination of a much observed troglodytic troll {potentially with 6 {six} toes and three teeth} then they must indeed live an incredibly sad existence. I will pray to my atheist god for them.

I will add though, their current stance feels like they would happily let all of the Kinahan Cartel in for a cuppa and a chat, telling everyone that they are really nice people but just totally misunderstood. Whilst also letting Freckleton take their imaginary finger puppets out on a date too.

soapy tit wank

Always interesting to hear and see less fortunate people trying to justify their views with comments.

Just by chance have you ever considered that you could be the clown here ?

Definitely wouldn't trust a consortium.  Investors can be predatory and rarely care about the carcass they leave behind.  Wouldn't trust any new owner.

Deep pockets is probably the no. 1 criterion.  As then mistakes can afford to be made and "learnings" taken.  Accordingly Andrew Black was the closest we have had to a good owner.  And his friends were well intentioned.  But they let their ambitions get ahead of Andrew Black's level of financial commitment.  Black dumped us with one of the worst owners in our history.  And then came Power "to the rescue".  And then came Clem (& Co.) to the rescue.  Except he didn't either.  And when was it ever better?  The days shortly after the 69-ers saw a decline on the pitch - and nothing to show for off of it - other than a new, 3/4 finished stand.  

But we rightly looked down on the likes of Reading and Oxford.  Smaller crowds.  Worse grounds.  Less invest-able.  We need a Madjeski but despite Madjeski, Reading aren't exactly laughing these days.  And, in spite of Kassam the Pox have rubbed along at the kind of level we should have done.

But the present shower of shit - no money, no integrity, no experience and above all NO NAMES (because the cross obligations of the investors are hidden) is completely unacceptable..  I'd prefer a useless or bad owner whom we - and TrustSTFC - actually knew.  Another roll of the dice.  If liquidation and fan ownership ultimately becomes the only route to recovery, despite its very serious limitations, then we also have to be ready.  AFC is a beacon in that regard.

Clem [and the anonymous "consortium from hell" he is hiding] Out, Out, Out!

Carlisle look to be putting in foundations for success in infrastructure and now team. I'm not writing off their experience of American consortiums yet. They do have to stay up of course.

Any new owner is a risk. Does Clem have the best interests of Swindon Town at heart? Impossible to say.

Regardless, if you think you are on a one way journey to non league in the next few years you form the opinion that it's worth the risk.

If you think that's dramatic and Clem can fix it, that's fine. Just can't see the signs myself. Zero. Holloway may be good, proof will be in eating the pudding, but the foundations for future success AI (after Ian) are?

I’m assuming Clem didn’t come here for the Christmas period like recent years as haven’t seen any phots or interviews which seems odd.

He came only a month or so so didn't he?

I can’t remember how long ago he was here batch plus he used to come over for the transfer window.

Pretty sure he's back in blighty this month as he's been taken to court over debts due from his other business.

I think a competent CEO is key. Just things like tannoys not working and turnstiles closed in the DR stand on New YearsDay that the CEO should be on top off. Yeah maybe they didn’t have the staff on NYD but maybe the CEO should have been visible, security staff could have been briefed to walk the que to check bags to speed things up. Just little things that make a difference but need to come from the top.

Cheers Bob, wasn’t sure if he was purposely staying away!

They can't even fix a fucking bodge job floor in the legends lounge for fuck sake. It took them a couple of months to sort the club shop signage.

Anyone who thinks we're being dramatic and over the top trusting this lot with the clubs future and a potential ground redevelopment wants putting in a straight jacket and carting off to the funny farm.

I thought Stevie Wonder could see the issues a couple of years ago and was having it out with people, I truly cannot fathom we are where we are and some still think Clems shite smells of roses. I don't want to hear about 'different opinions' some of our fans are fucking lunatics and it shows that they don't want the information against their argument.

Anyone know details and where? Could be a good place to protest.

See if we can borrow the big LED van Reading uses about football ownership problems and park it outside the courts?

Not really, the 'characters' were allowed into the club by the richest owner we've ever had and his cunt in chief Sir William Patey.   Once one group got their claws in others saw an opportunity and it's incredibly difficult to get rid of them.

https://x.com/STFCinOz/status/1875833444770726300?t=lvMpR3Fh56PSyto8Tat9Bg&s=19

#Facepalm

Blokes a fucking twat.

Also forgets to mention how annoyed Sir Don was at the clubs cock up in using a photo of QPR to celebrate the 69 cup win.

But I get that doesn’t fit the narrative he’s trying to peddle

The more reaction he gets will supply him more oxygen
Just ignore him.

Wait, that’s Don Roger’s silhouette?

I thought it was Mark Lazarus

I thought it was Clem  :)

Makes me laugh that the majority of the split in the fanbase is being driven by those complaining that the SO69 and protesting fans are splitting the fan base.

Where in reality, the SO69 have been nothing but respectful and accepting of those with differing opinions.

They just want to shut down negativity and feel superior. They don't actually want the other opinions to exist and don't want to even understand them as evidenced by the monkey with his eyes covered here.

The PR war started and will continue possibly to get worse.
Best for all to ignore the less informed until later in the year when the owners will be "begging " for Season Ticket holders to renew theirs and therefore reinvesting in the club.

Clem is absolutely desperate to get these three on a microphone together with him so he can try and flatter them and obfusgate the fan base - keep the criticism away for another few months,  kick the can down the road...

The sheer disrespect that the SO69 guys are getting is beyond belief - all through gatekeepers or people who still enjoy a certain level of access. I think some of them genuinely believe they can win Morfuni round - others who were in a similar favourable position have seen the light, they will too one day...

 but also the indiginity of some who are supposedly supportive but berating the three of them for not exactly doing as they say - when they have got a sizeable turnout and national media interest out of ONE day of action. People should be free to make suggestions but at the same time, we should support the guys making the decisions - it's not easy and it will get harder.

It's a very small minority and it's always the same accounts. Everyone I've spoke to in the real world is very much in favour with the protest and how the group are operating.

Clementes' footsoldiers

They are starting to get rattled which is why the retoric of the SM Clemmings are trying to accuse the group of using images etc. that are upsetting the likes of Don Rogers.  Maybe they should follow the clubs example and use a QPR badge instead.

Just the fact that they are making noise about irrelevant stuff shows that the message is getting out there and they are scrambling for as much whattaboutness as they can.  Like you say, if they can do this after one day of action, imagine what they will be like after half a season of action.

Talking of communication, when did we last hear from our great leader? Didn't he claim he was going to get better at comms after the criticism from the Trust?

He did the interview with the Sydney Morning Herald last month

He's been saying that for 2 years

My favourtie Clemming is they guy who refused to believe that Morfuni owned 15% of the club before he took it over. Refused to believe it, even when presented with a club statement stating it, and the court extracts also documneting said fact.

He said it was all made up.

Im sure you can guess which one it was :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Im amazed some of them can even get out of bed in the morning.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

https://youtu.be/gwizAUNvUD0?si=BHs6HB77_jUIY2_W

#clemitstime

Exactly!!

The guys a chocolate BBQ

Spirit of 69 IQ average.

On the topic of dissenters - people told those protesting diamandis (who was worse than Morfuni) to shut up. That was pre social media, but you have to assume it would have been a similar landscape

You’ll get people who hate protest in all walks of life. Not worth getting overly worked up over

Quite right

At least you knew where you were with Diamondis.

That dickhead Ben Lambert used to post on here too didnt he

I seem to remember Diamond Mike's Range Rover getting driven all around the County Ground as he looked to sneak out and avoid the protesters outside the Arkells. Didn't something get sprayed on his driveway as well? What a horrid prick he was.

He moved to west Sussex, please picture the look on his face when he realised after bumping into me in the street I lived the next road down 🤣

:D

Hi everyone,

We have announced details of our second day of action, February 8th.

The plan is a post-match, on-the-whistle protest round the back of the Arkell's.

Details here: https://x.com/so69fangroup/status/1881748714588614739

Like old times!  :D

Ooh, the port vale match  :toocool:

Not sure the police are going to like the demonstration next to the Vale fans😳

Could be messy and for what, you don’t have a plan post Clem other than some American consortium that doesn’t exist yet.

Put you down for a 'maybe' then Bob.

That's the spirit

There's only one Bob's Orange  ;)

Bob,
Understand what you are saying... but things have to change for the better of STFC and regrettably these type of actions have to happen.

Take a realistic look at Swindon at the moment... Ian Holloway seems to be doing a good job trying to get us a lifeline to stay in the 4th division. But we can't afford to strengthen the playing staff when others including Carlisle are spending to save their league status.

The current owner(s) simply need to move on as soon as possible

I don't understand all this "better the devil you know" bollocks. It's like keeping a flat tyre on a car  ::)

I envision the Fail fans being slightly less sympathetic than the Grimsby fans were!

That being said great work, full steam ahead and I will be there!

The fear of the unknown - understandable.  Plus some people really don't give two hoots who runs the club, or how.

The reality is that there are a lot of people with interest in investing in UK football clubs, for many different reasons.  Not every investment is beneficial, but they do exist.

''Yeah burrrt fore toyers is fore bleddy toyers an not free ennet''  :D

I was ahead of my time 😀

Clem's biggest fan, and everyone's second favourite Hall has spoken (on Twitter)

https://x.com/stevehallsyd/status/1881911649118138375?t=HqTRx8sIypVjz_d76Gmlbg&s=19

Which doesn't realistically happen until Clem puts the club up for sale. We've had approaches from multiple people/consortiums, but due to the terrible way we do business (or anything really) it never goes anywhere.

I *guess* in an ideal world we'd have a new consortium that's gone through proper due diligence with the Trust (although they allegedly did this with Clem) and the protests movement could go hand in hand with a potential buyer, but I don't think that's going to happen.

That is the first time I have ever seen that bloke. Who is he? A town fan in exile or a mate of Clem’s?

🤣

Probably somebody who has been to Clementes' house

Both

He runs the Oz supporters club and regularly meets with the owner

'The only people involved in managing the club are Clem, Oli, Anthony Hall, Gav & Steve Mildenhall'

Cheers Steve, Marcus Bignot's crying.

It is not on us to "have a plan post Clem" and we certainly don't have an American consortium up our sleeves; not sure where you've got that from.

We have been very clear from the outset; we have one single issue and focus of action. Clem Morfuni is provably incompetent at running our football club, and should publicly seek to sell to someone who is, or at least may be, competent.

Wiltshire Police are aware of our plans.

Thing is I don’t want an anonymous American consortium owning my club. American’s are fruit loops and don’t understand football - look at Carlisle.

:D

What to you says "Clem, he understands football" that's different to any American consortium?

Utterly baffled.

Has Morfuni pulled him a pint?  :sherlock:

They watch games in the local together

Australian ones are OK Batch  ;)

Everyone entitled to their own opinion but I disagree very much with this. Yes there’s examples of ownership groups from America who have done poorly but to say they’re fruit loops who don’t understand football is well wide of the mark. There’s a lot of very capable and ambitious groups coming out of North America.

Bob,
Seriously i am trying to side with you here, however you seem to not want to understand.
In simple terms
The club currently seems to be taken on the road to nowhere. Running at a loss where the owner(s)  it's claimed are taking more money from the club via administrative fees than it can afford. These payments are being paid for by loans to the club that one day will need to be paid back.
End result will be financial ruin and insolvency.
Perhaps the club is already at this stage.
Surely you can see how far Swindon has fallen and needs to move these current owners on and just possibly we will find a buyer that will be half decent ?
But first Morfuni needs to move on.

Why does this guy have 4 separate twitter accounts

Admin error, forgot his password

I'm genuinely baffled by it. Could understand it if he'd put a load of football people in place and got unlucky.

Ollie and Bignot look a good bet at the moment, and I consider the Flynn appointment sane, but otherwise we were looking like Carlisle but without the cash to invest like they have and without a clue in the boardroom.

Its fair to say Crawley (who I think got lucky) and Carlisle (looking grim but you not down yet) are not shining examples of American ownership. I get that aspect.

We also seem to be losing more money than Power managed.

You realise a quarter the club is owned by anonymous owners already right?! We’ve never heard a peep from Kiely and if you genuinely think Morfuni has put in all the money he claims from his own pocket then you are very naive.

Literally every reason you ever list for not wanting a change are actually where we find ourselves currently and why we need change.

Your head is almost as stuck in the sand as Steve Hall’s is stuck up Morfuni’s backside.

So he can like and retweet his own stuff :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I presume he’s the guy that runs that awful STFC Aussie fan club account

I'll see your Carlisle and raise you Wrexham and Walsall.

Completely understand there is no guarantee we'd become Walsall, or Carlisle but are you happy with what we currently have?

Wrexham are quite a lot of things, but I think "anonymous" is pushing it!

Sorry, very poor example. Replace with Crawley then! :) (not sure I'd fancy that either, although they appear to be doing OK ish - possibly more luck than judgement though?

Those pesky admin expenses

You can use Carlisle as a bad example if you wish, but I certainly wouldn't mind if we were investing heavily to try and get out of the trouble we're in.

But who would come and change my tyre?

Usual defeatest bollocks, isn't it.

Some very well run MLS clubs too.

Also Carlisle have invested heavily in the infrastructure like training ground, fitness facilities and looking at updating the ground for the future too.

Does anyone honestly think that Clem will add to the budget and sign enough players that Ollie wants to improve us as Carlisle have done?

Of course he wont and he doesnt have anything like the resources neccessary to do that anyway without outside investment which he strenuously denies will ever happen despite it previously happening and him saying it was just an admin error.

Off the pitch i'd a million % rather be Carlisle with their owners. They've just gotten it horribly wrong on the pitch.

We got lucky that Holloway is massively pulling out of the shit after Clem/Zav/Hart or whoever actually appoints the managers fucked it up with Kennedy.

I firmly believe we'd be below Carlisle now if we stuck with Kennedy or made a similar appointment.

Or Liverpool 🤷🏼‍♂️

and before anyone tries to give Clem and co some huge credit for appointing Holloway, imagine the shit we'd be in if Ollie was from Cumbria or southern scotland or something.

Fuck off with that, the position of whimsical west country yokel in Cumbria is already taken!  ;)

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/new-training-facility-lease-agreed

Investment.

Meanwhile, we're training leisure centre.

Don't get too carried away, Sheep Mount is basically an athletics track with football pitches run as a leisure facility by the Council via a third party contractor. What CUFC have done is take a lease on a small bit of it and laid out two pitches for their (and community use).

Assuming what I read about Carlisle is true (as shown above it’s easy to exaggerate & make things sound a lot more positive than it is)

…then the feel like they are very much in a ‘short term pain, long term gain’ phase.

The infrastructure is being invested it. The playing squad is being invested in. Seeds have been planted.


Us, on the other hand we’re slowly plodding along towards death. We are just ‘lucky’ that the Holloway pills we are taking has *hopefully* put that death off for at least another year.

Well at the moment they are looking at back to back relegations and non league football - that’s some short term pain.

Where are the board room windows?

Above players entrance, middle of arkells.

Sounds similar to us  :D

That's the point, they are in the same situation as us but..  they are trying to do something about it as their investments and transfer dealings show.  Our version of that was hire a manager (to fix the fuck ups of the past few seasons) and hope he is capable of pulling something out of his rear orifice, and keep us up above the dotted line.

The difference is, they are investing and recruiting to put themselves in the best position to ensure that this isn't repeated again, whereas we are sticking our fingers in the dam that is holding back the National League, and we have been for the past 2 seasons at least. Morfuni only has a limited amount of fingers before it gives way, Carlisle don't.

Let’s hope recent history between the clubs doesn’t mar the occasion as their sure to bring a large following considering their league position.

Speaking as somebody who was at the first protest, and who shall attend every one in the future if possible;

I do have concerns about the protest being post match.

It shouldn't matter what the result on the pitch is, however a 3-0 thumping win will 100% dampen the numbers and will raise the voices of the happy clappers with wool over their eyes, especially when they will be exiting the north stand.

Would it not have been better to pick another fixture where it could've been done pre match? too late now obviously.

Was the Port Vale game picked because we'd expect a higher gate? due to our 'rivalry'? hence anticipating more protest numbers

No Carlisle had a good manager in place at the start of the season Simpson - signed a sack load of players then promptly sacked him and appointed a manager who plays a style of football completely different to simpsons. They’ve now signed another sackful of players and if it doesn’t work out no doubt they will sack the manager. We’ve been a shambles and still are off the field but have a chance under Holloway. Probably need to give the owners a little bit of credit there.

Thanks for the feedback.

The Port Vale game was picked mostly because it fell around the right time since the first one. We don't have an abundance of Saturday home games to pick from. It is also on TV. Personally speaking, I don't see it as being any more high profile than any other game, and Vale rarely travel anyway, but that's irrelevant.

Re your pre-match or post-match comments, firstly, it's an early KO, so pre-match is trickier. In our opinion, for the nature of the protest, post-match works better. There is no hard stop time-wise, there is no event that fans are drifting off to go to etc, and it'd also be extremely disruptive to match going town fans if we did this pre-match.

The result thing is a very valid point; rightly or wrongly we think that those who are strong enough in their will to protest won't be swayed by the result one way or another. I'd be very surprised if there are people whose decision to protest against the majority owner is swayed by whether we beat Port Vale or not.

Hope that explains some of the thought processes here.

I think comparisons between us and Carlisle are valid in having an ownership that seems to have little clue what they are doing, the difference is that they have the money to possibly sort it out, albeit as we know buying players at this level can often achieve sweet fanny adams if those deciding who to buy are clueless.

As for Holloway I'm not sure much credit can be laid at their door, it seems to have rather fallen into their laps with the added bonus that a) unlike the majority of our recent mangers he seems to have a fecking clue and b) he also seems prepared to stand up and be counted, albeit the cynic in me wonders whether for now at least he is being left to get on with it as if we go down he can then be blamed for the shit show.

Re Carlisle and them sacking the managers after signing new squads of players, isn't that exactly the MO of STFC for the past 3 years? probably explains why we are both in the positions that we are in on the field.  Finally looks like we might have appointed somebody with the experience necessary to give us a fighting chance to get out of the hole we are in. Based on what we have witnessed, i give them as much credit as I do a stopped clock for getting it right twice a day, it doesn't paper over the numerous managers that have failed in a very short period of time because they were either too inexperienced, not very good, or weren't given the necessary backing.

I have openly stated that I am far more confident of Hollaway finding a way to keep us up than i was Kennedy, so in the sense of that being our goal, then credit to club for bringing him in - the issue that you seem to be bypassing is the realisation that you seem to be accepting that, our level of goal setting is now set to KEEPING US UP!!  in league 2, and in a terrible league 2 at that, after our worst finish in our clubs history, does that not resinate with you?

I am more than happy for you, our resident Kiwi and any other people to wax lyrical about the job that Holloway is doing, sing Holloway's R&W army and all of that Jazz, but the point that you are conveniently missing, and the whole point of the SO69, is that unless things change off the field, then the success of Holloway, although very much welcomed and definitely needed, is largely irrelevant because it's not sustainable while the club is being run off the field as it is.

So back to Carlisle, the point is, they are not yet getting it right on the field, but they are starting to do things right off of the field.  Their foundations are being laid.  Whereas we are finally getting it right on the field, we have a managment team that can get a tune out of this squad which might get us what we need this season.  We all know it's a squad built at a club with crumbling foundations though, and most of us are smart enough to know what happens when you build on crumbling foundations.

This^

 :clap:

We must also remember that the Holloway hire was in no way a master stroke by Clem or anyone senior at the club. No praise or kudos should go their way. It was literally the club saying "now we're in the shit, what do we do?" and Bignot piped up saying that his best mate could probably quickly step in and do a job.

Berniman...

You must have an ego as big as an elephant.

Do you really think you are the only one who can see what is happening here.

Yes, I hope Ian Holloway can keep us in the shit division.

The tyre will hit the road when this season ends.

The 4200 plus season ticket holders will be given the chance to either renew or not. If they renew Morfuni and his mates will continue to do what they are currently doing.

If they don't the club will possibly close.

That is why Bobs post is so relevant. What happens next ?    

Life is very easy pointing out what is wrong... the difficult bit is putting plans together to making the wrongs right.

I will ask again... what happens next ?  

Further to my previous post... you don't need to convince me.

The 4200 + Season ticket holders are the ones that need to be convinced

Right, I think I get the club structure now. Bad James noshes AFH off and SFH noshes Clem off. Unless Clem is in the UK and then both Bad James and AFH fight over who gets to go first.

I do hope SFH isn't involved in accounting. It seems numbers aren't his thing...

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RNZ..

Bru...

You're like a fucken jandal bru...

Never seen someone flip-flop so much, china...

Must be back on the Janola bru...

Please explain.

I am not sure what is egotistical about my post, like Rafa Benitez, i am just spitting facts, but to put your mind at rest my ego is well and truly in check.  I was responding to a post from Bob stating that Carlisle were in a worse position than us because of what is going on, on the pitch.  What I was trying to put into words was what SO69 and this thread is about, the off the pitch stuff - this is nothing to do really with the on the pitch stuff, the on the pitch stuff will be the result of what the SO69 is trying to do, although Hollaway is doing a decent job of patching it up in the short term.

The answer to what happens next?  Well on the topic that Bob and a few of you keep harping back to, what comes next it the National League, maybe not this season (hopefully) but recent history shows us that this is inevitable.

The answer to what happens next off the pitch?  If SO69 are successful, Clem publicly puts the club up for sale and we see what interested parties there are.  SO69 have repeatedly stated that this is their only aim.  Until the owner publicly comes out and says that he is actively looking to sell the club then potential interested parties will not make themselves known.

The alternative is that we continue to spiral through this downward trajectory that we are in, we continue to watch the club operate in an unprofessional manner, we continue to watch the club be mismanaged, we continue to watch the fans be treated with disdain with very little communication, we continue to watch suppliers and support services not getting paid on time, we continue to watch the Admin errors occur, we continue to allow nefarious characters to remain associated with our club, we continue to watch the stadium crumble and certain sections get closed down occaisionally, and we continue to not get our bloody Bovril.

So, I don't really understand where the personal aspects of your response come from, i only mentioned you in your staunch support of Hollaway, which i made clear that there is nothing wrong with.  Just trying to make the point that Holloway is not the problem here and not the point of this thread or the SO69.

To quote a movie, if you build it they will come.

Is that not hospitality?

Spoken like a true ego maniac.

I think its both. Those windows stretch a fair bit.

 :D

Oh dear. Time to steer clear of this thread until the tiff is over methinks.

Apparently i do my best :D

Ain't no tiff, just a debate..  it's what forums are for.

Which is the club being sold.

Fantastic.

And as if by magic, love breaks out! ❤️

If only the real world was so black and white, pesky opinions getting in the way

As Clem will be in the country - do we think he will come out and address the protest - or hide with Zav, Anthony & Kiely (I know the answer obviously)  :D

He will come out, expose his massive manhood and drown you in sticky jizz

Not again

Probably a flying visit and gone back once the window is closed😁

He is here I know that much

https://x.com/acklamjoe/status/1882867650621284767?s=46

Spot the aussie cunt

Plenty to catch up on……discussing the orange hats in the crowd😁

"Don't worry Clemente, they are only wearing them because it is cold and they were free.
What time should I come to your house tomorrow?"

🤣

 :D

Maybe Ollie can wear one of his old Blackpool hats to fit in :D

Seeing a fair few comments about binning the orange hats now that we have won a few games. Are some of our fans really that thick?

IT'S NOT PERFORMANCE RELATED!

Yes. Next question?

It's obviously not performance related but I made the point a while ago that it will be very difficult for the Protest to gain momentum or traction while results on the field are good and that's just how it is, it's human nature. It's a bit of a conundrum really...

In attendance yesterday and it felt like Morfuni was working through the snag list - new flooring in the Legends finally down (it's January, folks!) and the concessions in the DRS were almost groaning with the weight of pasties and sausage rolls - probably wasteful overkill as they looked like they'd barely shifted any- but hey, flash freeze and reheat next week...

Statue Park is still a mess - perhaps if we pack it with Trollope and other legends you won't be able to see the awful floor anymore. You can't get any shirts in normal sizes unless you go to Pro-Direct's own site, and we are still kicking the can down the road for JV and AB meetings.

If the transfer rumours are true, this will be Morfuni's filip - no doubt he will be front and centre, all smiles when the window closes - hoping for a quiet fortnight. The anti orange hat moaners haven't grown, they're just emboldened by the recent form on the pitch - deliberately missing the point that those who are visible at the ground have paid to come in. I hate this rhetoric that if people don't come, they're to blame because the cash flow will be poor - there's a population of about 200k in Swindon, some of which is transcient, and 750k in the county. With good ownership and initiatives to reach new audiences, it should be hard to get in. This lot can only think of exploiting the faithful in the short term, and cannot raise the capital or meet their objectives for the ground. All they are buying is more time.

Indeed

It actually looked quite good from the picture. Does it improve the echo?

Couple of comments from the FB Group this morning

Just watched a documentary on you tube about the orange hat brigade..sorry  but you just make yourselves look ridiculous spouting the lies and propaganda

The orange hats are just a band of negative trouble makers looking to stir up division in the club. They go out of their way to find negatives, often embellishing and making up stories. They aren't true Swindon fans. And never will be.


They live amongst us

For you it's not performance related but for some it obviously was.

Tbf I have only started going to a few games now as I have a orange hat. may sound silly but it justifies my attendance.
 
Orange hats are going to be short lived anyway especially as the weather gets warmer!

the accounts are due next month, that will cause the next big stir regardless of on the pitch performances

I don't believe these were fans of the hats in the first place

There’s an easy comeback, results have picked up since the protest, it was obviously the catalyst for the improved form.

Yes. Yes they absolutely are that thick. And then some.

The SO69 group has been pretty clear from the start for those with a willingness and ability not to get through like with their eyes and their ears blocked.

name and shame

Mouthbreathers.

(https://gifdb.com/images/high/heavy-breathing-donald-trump-angry-mad-jx8nhyiksaj7ltm0.webp)

You’ll guess first time!

anon poster?

Rob Clarke
Weyman

Yeah the first one was one of them

The other just posts the laughing emoji whenever confronted with facts and doesnt offer a meaningful response

Oh yeah those two should just be discounted from any opinion now. They're Gareth Gillman on Lee Powers nuts level now.

Not serious people.

What?

I recently made the decision to join that group (only as a watcher you understand) and its pure comedy gold. That Clarke guy has to be some terrible parody of a human?

Back the team, not the regime kind of thing?

We're expecting fewer people than the first day of action, purely based on the nature of the second protest.

But that said, I'd be very surprised if there were people who were aligned with us, who purchased an orange hat and who joined us pre-Grimsby and were now suddenly not interested in action because we've stumbled into the lower midtable of the bottom tier.

We have zero interest in convincing people; there are more than enough people who are broadly in agreement that our community deserves better. Football clubs should only be ran to serve their communities (fans, customer, the town etc). Ours is not.

Colin Childs is another one. 9 friends, only posting since 2022 so almost certainly a second account of someone.

The spirit of 69 group couldn't have made it clearer what it is and isn't about.

What they can't do is force people to open their eyes and ears and have a level of reading comprehension in line with an adult person of at least below average intelligence.

People are allowed different views and perspectives on what's happened.

Anyone with a different view to you is below the average intelligence?

.........*sigh*

Well done on completely missing the point of what we are talking about.

You can have a different view of perspective on the ownership, the manager, the players, whatever you choose. That is not the conversation we're having.

What you cannot do, is tell someone else or a group like the spirit of 69 what they are trying to convey, because you are not them.

You can't form someone elses argument for them and then argue against it.

This is why its so hard to engage with a lot of the pro Clem element in our fan base because they lack basic reading comprehension and miss the point of what you were even talking about in the first place.

FWIW, I don’t think Clem et al are in the Lee Power mould. They are just incompetent in the extreme and seem unable or unwilling to do anything about it.

The end result will be the same, unfortunately.