The Spirit of '69 and our Day of Action

[Robinz]

When talking of someone to blame  .
You can't go past Margaret Thatcher for causing every fucking problem currently known to mankind.

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Have heard that Grimsby fans wearing orange hats were told by stewards that if they did not remove they would be ejected.  Can’t confirm that but I know that a fan in the town end was told by stewards to remove an orange tabard,  under what regulations ??.  Stewards on an ego trip, I’ll continue to wear whatever i want,  fuck ‘em.

This is true.
My Cousin is a Grimsby fan, travelled down with his Mates and 2 were told to take off their hats.
They put them back on🤣

Credit a few of their lot yesterday that were behind us.🙌🙌

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Clem keeping the same stewarding/security firms in place was one of the early red flags for me, before I even knew who Adam Hart was.

I'm sure some of the more normal stewards would have been getting their instructions from Powers platinum thugs that are still around. They're on the list of who we need a clean break from.

[stfcjack]

I could see a few orange hats in the away end, and saw a few giving us a round of applause as the match went past them. Fair play to them, proper supporters Grimsby

[Batch]

Grimsby fans have been here, their support was most welcome

[RedRag]

Very late in the day but well done to the organisers and all the helpers and marchers.  Hard work, attention to detail and learnings for the future (the loud hailer for eg).  I just joined in for the Statue Park leg.  

What I particularly appreciated was the emphasis on good conduct and positivity towards the team on the pitch.  I thought that  transferred so well to the support inside the ground.  It also enabled the protest movement over ownership to be acceptable to 99% of the fans, inc. families and children and irrespective of a number of individuals not (yet!) wholly on board.

STFC is like family and we all have to be included.  I think a prospective new owner (with good intentions) would like the love and positivity shown.

Get it forwaaaard, you Reds!

[Ginginho]

I assume the Supporters Club are not in favour of the protests.

They were handing out OSC santa hats yesterday and the comment made to me when handed a hat was "Here you go, you can swap your hat now"

[jayohaitchenn]

When talking of someone to blame  .
You can't go past Margaret Thatcher for causing every fucking problem currently known to mankind.

Mention politics once more in this thread and you're banned for a week. Fucking try me, I'm looking for an excuse.

[theakston2k]

I assume the Supporters Club are not in favour of the protests.

They were handing out OSC santa hats yesterday and the comment made to me when handed a hat was "Here you go, you can swap your hat now"

What’s do you expect with that dick Spencer as vice chair.

[adje]

I don’t do Facebook but Mrs Audrey does. She’s trying to get an explanation from someone on there who maintains that if Clem goes, the club goes. She doesn’t swear much but the word ‘fuckwit’ was mentioned.

I argued against that comment too. All I got was those ridiculous laughing emojis.. from Clarke and Weyman

[RobertT]

Clem will say fuck it, I’m going to stop investing, I’m going to sell our best players and by the way I’m still not going to sell the club until I’ve made my money back and then some. That’s the danger here.

And in a nutshell, while I presume trying to provoke a reaction, you have hit the nail on the head to a degree.  People are NOT INVESTING, they are hanging on for their share.  For some people it's precisely what you describe - Standing and Power were sharing transfer fees received, Power got greedy and we ended up where we are now thanks to an internal coup.

Zav - we know about Karachi, I presume there is more.

Kiely - fees for services (confirmed), owed a bunch of money (unlikely he had that much himself by the way, no financial background to suggest it).

Nicholls - churns lots of players through us, receives a % of every contract negotiated from the players even if not directly from us.

Standing - no way he walked away being owed several million without having a way of thinking he was going to get it back once legal ownership of the shares changed.

Zav/Standings lawyer - owed a bunch of money

Clem - used funds from his other business, which he owed to creditors, to loan STFC.  Always been upfront for nearly 10 years on why - he wanted the stadium development contract.

Nobody is investing - everyone is owed money or finding ways of earning it.

That's without the underlying whiff of Money Laundering given past history of some of those running our club.

So yes - we are already at the point you mention.  No protest will change that, we are there already and have been for 4 years since Power went rogue, likely well before then.

[Audrey]

I still don’t see how Clem can benefit from having 50% of the JV

[Berniman]

What is clear from this thread and the events of yesterday is that the SO69 group are very clear about what they are protesting about whilst being respectful and consious that there is also a group of fans that don't agree with them and they are fine with that.

Whereas the group of fans that don't agree with the SO69 protests are very vocal in telling anyone that does support the protests that they are wrong.  In the past 24 hours I have seen lots of noise on SM from non SO69 supporters and then I jump on here and see the posters being vocal about the protests are the ones that don't agree with it.  If you don't agreee with it, that's fine, but why feel the need to tell those that do that their opinion is wrong?

I get that people don't agree with SO69, but I don't feel the urge to get on SM and here and tell them that they are wrong, it's their opinion..

As has shown in this thread, if you feel the need to tell groups with a different opinion to you that they are wrong, then that goes a long way to creating that divide that you spend a lot of time harping on about.  In the meantime, the SO69 supporters will continue to demonstrate peacfully about the problems that they believe is killing our club - if you don't want to see it or hear about it, unfollow the group and anyone that follows it, don't visit this thread, and you will be able to carry on without having to see anything that winds you up enough to feel the need to shout that other peoples opinions are wrong - simples.

[RobertT]

I still don’t see how Clem can benefit from having 50% of the JV

A little bit on the valuation of the business, but mostly tying the club into a contract with his chosen contractors.  Regardless of ownership in the future.

[ron dodgers]

So yes - we are already at the point you mention.  No protest will change that, we are there already and have been for 4 years since Power went rogue, likely well before then.

The Power thing for me is frustrating; he got hold of the Arbib/Black debentures but I can't find the price. "10p in the paand guv"? Maybe, who knows.

I know nothing about the finances in respect to Morfuni subsequently and I won't speculate, if anyone knows specifics get it out there, knowledge is power!