The Spirit of '69 and our Day of Action

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

So stop pretending the protests have nothing to do with the league position.

If we were top of the league you'd have the same 15 moaning gets that hang around the boardroom thread looking for things to get outraged about.

In August 2021:

1.My aim is to build a sustainable Championship club.
2.To own the County ground with the fans.
3.To improve and modernise the County Ground.
4.To find and develop our own training ground.
5.To have the best academy outside of the Premier league.
6.To have a young first team with players that have come through the academy.
7.To have a fan base that is growing and where all the kids in the town are Swindon fans and their heroes are Swindon players.

1 out of 7 with support from an external benefactor (2).

The bloke is a liar, a chancer and has brought convicted criminals to the Club

I have more than enough evidence.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

- We know there have been and continue to be interested parties.
 - We know the club is not "up for sale" per se; i.e. actively seeking a sale via a prospectus, investment decks, hiring brokers/corp finance orgs and the like.
 - We know there are a number of international consortiums, specifically US ones, who are actively looking at EFL clubs.
 - We know that those consortiums and other parties have found or will find it extremely difficult dealing with our ownership structure as it stands.

Interesting.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Would we trust a US consortium with the best interests of STFC ? Look at what has happened to Man U under a US consortium and look at Carlisle - bottom of the league after sacking their hero manager. If you think Morfuni doesn’t understand football in this country I’d suggest there are a fair few us consortiums who understand it even less.

I don't think anyone thinks a new owner minus the crooks will necessarily be utopia and immediately propel us towards the champions league....but for me it's the bare minimum for buying tickets and giving the club my money.

[DV]

Would we trust a US consortium with the best interests of STFC ?

Probably more so than a drug dealer & a money launderer

…it’s odd though isnt it. You’ve been singing Holloway’s praises recently (and rightfully so) but we only got Holloway in because we sacked Kennedy & took the gamble that another manager might do a better job.

A gamble, certainly. One worth taking, yes.

Yet when it comes to our owners you’re happy to stick to the devil you know because a US consortium *might* not understand football in this country.

Interesting how your stance changes on two comparable things.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

In August 2021:

1.My aim is to build a sustainable Championship club.
2.To own the County ground with the fans.
3.To improve and modernise the County Ground.
4.To find and develop our own training ground.
5.To have the best academy outside of the Premier league.
6.To have a young first team with players that have come through the academy.
7.To have a fan base that is growing and where all the kids in the town are Swindon fans and their heroes are Swindon players.

1 out of 7 with support from an external benefactor (2).

The bloke is a liar, a chancer and has brought convicted criminals to the Club

I have more than enough evidence.

6 is also true but massively helped by the pathway being much easier with us being so much shitter than expected.

[McGurk's Missus]

Monkey see. Monkey do. Not sure what variety of bleach ''dacuntimunki'' {mods, get to it} is on but it seems even stronger than the stuff RNZ regularly gulps. Perhaps they're chugging industrial sized tubs of Zoflora on an occasional evening? 

Takes allsorts I guess. If it is the partaking of occasionally knocking back tumblers of C21H38ClN and C15H20O then it does give some resolution to why they are writing as they do...

...if they're a combination of a much observed troglodytic troll {potentially with 6 {six} toes and three teeth} then they must indeed live an incredibly sad existence. I will pray to my atheist god for them.

I will add though, their current stance feels like they would happily let all of the Kinahan Cartel in for a cuppa and a chat, telling everyone that they are really nice people but just totally misunderstood. Whilst also letting Freckleton take their imaginary finger puppets out on a date too.

[Robinz]

soapy tit wank

Always interesting to hear and see less fortunate people trying to justify their views with comments.

Just by chance have you ever considered that you could be the clown here ?

[RedRag]

Would we trust a US consortium with the best interests of STFC ? Look at what has happened to Man U under a US consortium and look at Carlisle - bottom of the league after sacking their hero manager. If you think Morfuni doesn’t understand football in this country I’d suggest there are a fair few us consortiums who understand it even less.

Definitely wouldn't trust a consortium.  Investors can be predatory and rarely care about the carcass they leave behind.  Wouldn't trust any new owner.

Deep pockets is probably the no. 1 criterion.  As then mistakes can afford to be made and "learnings" taken.  Accordingly Andrew Black was the closest we have had to a good owner.  And his friends were well intentioned.  But they let their ambitions get ahead of Andrew Black's level of financial commitment.  Black dumped us with one of the worst owners in our history.  And then came Power "to the rescue".  And then came Clem (& Co.) to the rescue.  Except he didn't either.  And when was it ever better?  The days shortly after the 69-ers saw a decline on the pitch - and nothing to show for off of it - other than a new, 3/4 finished stand.  

But we rightly looked down on the likes of Reading and Oxford.  Smaller crowds.  Worse grounds.  Less invest-able.  We need a Madjeski but despite Madjeski, Reading aren't exactly laughing these days.  And, in spite of Kassam the Pox have rubbed along at the kind of level we should have done.

But the present shower of shit - no money, no integrity, no experience and above all NO NAMES (because the cross obligations of the investors are hidden) is completely unacceptable..  I'd prefer a useless or bad owner whom we - and TrustSTFC - actually knew.  Another roll of the dice.  If liquidation and fan ownership ultimately becomes the only route to recovery, despite its very serious limitations, then we also have to be ready.  AFC is a beacon in that regard.

Clem [and the anonymous "consortium from hell" he is hiding] Out, Out, Out!

[Batch]

Carlisle look to be putting in foundations for success in infrastructure and now team. I'm not writing off their experience of American consortiums yet. They do have to stay up of course.

Any new owner is a risk. Does Clem have the best interests of Swindon Town at heart? Impossible to say.

Regardless, if you think you are on a one way journey to non league in the next few years you form the opinion that it's worth the risk.

If you think that's dramatic and Clem can fix it, that's fine. Just can't see the signs myself. Zero. Holloway may be good, proof will be in eating the pudding, but the foundations for future success AI (after Ian) are?

[Jimmy Quinn]

I’m assuming Clem didn’t come here for the Christmas period like recent years as haven’t seen any phots or interviews which seems odd.

[Batch]

He came only a month or so so didn't he?

[Jimmy Quinn]

I can’t remember how long ago he was here batch plus he used to come over for the transfer window.

[Bob's Orange]

Pretty sure he's back in blighty this month as he's been taken to court over debts due from his other business.

[Bob1978]

For me it's not about who the owner is, many football club owners are dodgy as it's a self regulated industry with potentially enormous returns, which attracts gamblers and cash rich individuals - so if Clem sells I think it's unlikely we are going to get completely shot of unwanted characters in the background.

All I want to see is that we are getting the basics right, have a decent match day experience and see progress each year and we just aren't getting that.

I'd therefore be happy with Clem if he
 - employed a CEO with a service industry or elite sport background
 - employed qualified staff (even part-time) for activities such as marketing/finance etc
 - made sure that there was enough staff and stock to serve everyone, that wants one, a pasty/pint on every match day
 - put some stock in the shop to sell at Xmas
 - Has a sensible, clear, forward looking strategy rather than what appears to be a reactive, chaotic and ill informed approach to decision making
 - Learns from mistakes not blame others for them

Just stop winging it FFS

I think a competent CEO is key. Just things like tannoys not working and turnstiles closed in the DR stand on New YearsDay that the CEO should be on top off. Yeah maybe they didn’t have the staff on NYD but maybe the CEO should have been visible, security staff could have been briefed to walk the que to check bags to speed things up. Just little things that make a difference but need to come from the top.

[Jimmy Quinn]

Pretty sure he's back in blighty this month as he's been taken to court over debts due from his other business.

Cheers Bob, wasn’t sure if he was purposely staying away!