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I'll get this started

2-1 to Town

Monkey hangers 1 Swindon 3

Williams on the score sheet

Going for a comprehensive 3-0. We're on a roll

Hartlepool fans seem confident. Some of them think they can make the play-offs this season. I beg to differ although anything could happen today. Let's hope we play as well as we did against Brighton.

1-1 draw.

They were absolute dog shite at home last season

0-4

I can't see us letting many in... 1-1 or 1-2 to the Town.

A very undisciplined start to the season - Two match day threads, neither started by SSWS - not an omen for the season I hope:no:

I will use this thread as it at least has the proper title.

My stock prediction for last season was 2-0 Connell, Benson. For obvious reasons I will have to change that for this season and it will be .....2-0 Williams, Ritchie.

However, for one game only I need to take into account the 'new player scoring two goals on his debut against his former club' factor and say.... 2-0 Miller (2)

A 5-0 tonking at Crewe last week, I wouldn't be feeling too confident if I were them

Have to start the season brimming with confidence so lets go for 0-2. If this was mid season then more likely a draw....

Second half display against Brighton hopefully to be continued....worried about DiCanio`s emotional state though.

COYR

The confidence is good amongst the players and also us supporters, only one predicted loss over on the prediction league. I'm going for a 2-1 win with Ritchie and Williams scoring but getting anything away will be ok.

i'm going for a 3.0 win.

Williams - 2
Navarro - 1

Also, has Caddis travelled with the squad? I see he hasn't traveled! Shame

No way of knowing form this early but will take a punt on 2-1 Town with Collins and Miller scoring

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !

Where's Suggs?

Ahem..............

I've got a bad feeling about this. 2-1 defeat.

Everyone's too confident. 2-1 defeat.

1-1 draw.

All matches this season

                                         Hartlepool
Games Played   Lost   Drawn   Won   For   Against
   Away 6               3     1     2    6      12
   Home 5               2     2     1    5      13
 Totals 11               5           3     3   11             25

                                           Swindon
Games Played   Lost   Drawn   Won   For   Against
   Away 6               0     1     5   24       2
   Home 2               1     0     1     3       2
 Totals  8     1           1            6         27             4

Based on this 3 - 0 to Swindon   Benson, Williams & Navarro

2-1 Town.

2-1 to the Swindon Town.

Roberts and Ritchie.

I made a habit of not predicting scores last season, so I'm not going to start now.  But we're in with a good shout.

I have £5 on Navarro at 8/1 to score in 90 mins, so therefore we'll suffer a 2-0 defeat.

these away games should be bread and butter if we're going to be anywhere near the top come end of the season. I'm going with 3-0 town

3-0 Town.

Benson hat-trick.

3-0 Swindon... Ritchie x2 & Benson. Touch wood.

1-1 hard earned draw

 Unusually I'd say this is pretty clear cut...either they are shite, in which case an easy win for us, or their poor start is teh wake up call needed so they'll roll us over.  No idea which though.

We'll win.  Relax all.

donkey says relax

Monkfish will definitely score but we'll get 2-McCormack with a typical surging run,Ritchie with an untypical scuff.

Wish I was there....well fucked off this morning.

3-1 Town.

Navarro
Troy
Benson

Quite confident today after Tuesdays effort.  0-2 Swindon COYR

John Actor is tough, uncompromising Inspector Monkfish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNrwmk2RIk

thats quality!

I miss the Fast Show  :cry:

Always watch it on youtube when I need a lift-especially Bob Fleming's Folkin' Classics! That and Alan Partridge's Kate Bush medly

Bit off topic but I see Crawley have just signed on loan Jonathan Forte from Saints and Nicky Ajose from Posh. Looking forward to Tuesday night but will miss Evans  :no:

... don't do it ....

....when you want to go to it....

Unchanged line-up for today then.

... [censored]
But shoot it in the right direction ....

Correct decision I would say.

Think Roberts should have been in for De Vita, not saying De Vita is a bad player because he isn't but he was shocking against Brighton in the 1st half, a little better in the second but doesn't have the quality of Roberts.

Presumably Roberts isn't fit as he isn't even on the bench

Roberts is not on the bench though, so I would assume he's still not fully fit.

Bastard Player not working-1st league game ffs!!!!

2-1 win.

It's working for me.

back on!

Here we go again then...

Come on you Reds

And the circus is open for business.

Lively start for Town

OK, three is a shit network. Can only get a signal with the phone on a window lede. Turned it into a mobile hotspot for my laptop so I can follow downstairs. Ain't technology marvellous (until three kick me off because teathering/hotspotting isn't allowed).

Shame that the data rate/signal is just below where player needs to be able to work properly.

Anyway Come On You Reds

Anyone know if you can get the player on iPhones?

Last time I tried, no.

But that could have just been me  :D

 ??? ???
Didnt understand that at all,til the last sentence! ???

On holiday. No Wifi. Using mobile phone as wifi hotpoint. Laptop now connected to phone. Speed not quick enough for stfc player to keep up. ;)

Same here :D

This made me laugh...

Rangers 0 East Stirling 1

Think Player uses Flash, so draw your own conclusions ;)

Hilarious - and Ross County came within 10 seconds of beating Celtic earlier.

1-1 now...

It appears as though Hartlepool are applying some pressure.

trying to listen online but my father-in-law is practicing mozart's requiem so the game sounds very scary

Ha, my boss is at the Ranges game. Wonder what the attendance will be. Would imagine its a bit of a novelty for their fans ... for now.

on what?

Whale bones?

piano and singing.

it's eerie as fuck.

Christ!

This is probably the most middle-class reason for someone to be prevented from listening to a football match that I've ever read.

;)

Portsmouth beating Bournemouth.

welcome to norway :)

Scum are beating the lesser scum

following the twitter feed and it does not look like we are having this all our own way

2-0 now.

For me Rovers are the bigger scummers but I'm guessing you mean the other scummers are winning  :hmmm:

Yes I do consider Oxford and City bigger scum than Rovers

The Plastics will by crying into their song sheets...1-0 down

Sounds like the central mid is struggling from the Twitter feed. Is that how it sounds on the radio?

Yeah 2 chances they have had from us losing possession in the middle, Miller the main culprit, rather Ferry and Navarro in the middle anyway to be honest.

Bright start but Hartlepool have come back into it. It sounds from the commentary like we're having lots of possession but a poor final ball is letting us down.

Snooze

We're up to 17th in the table

Im hoping that 2nd half the fitness starts to show through.

Just got here. Looks from messages on here as if the first have was a bit crap?

We'll win 2-0.

Rooney coming on. Hopefully he'll inject some pace and urgency and make an impact.

Rooney coming on, guess for De Vita.

Ooh first corner

We might lose this  :) We don't sound that great today.

I hate listening to the radio so much, think every loud noise is a goal for Hartlepool.

461 Town fans there.

Hartlepool hit the post.

Pool hit inside of post, then bounces straight to Fods.

Ferry on for Navarro.

Austin scores for Burnley.

And STFC Player has packed in :smack:

Under a lot of pressue here.

Judging purely on the BBC Wiltshire coverage, our midfield hasn't done much today, and the ball isn't sticking up front. Maybe Collins could make the difference.

Sounds like they are all over us.

Be happy with a point from this t the moment!

COYR

Aw I thought we'd win every game 3-0 in this piss-take league.

penalty kick

Penalty to Swindon! Come on.

PLEASE.

miller surely

Fucking hell.

shit it just hit me roof

Boo.

Shit.

fucking hell

COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKING TOSS POTT!!!

Fuck sake.

At least hit the fucking target you idiot

You cannot score if it's not on target.....

Who?

Just get the fucking thing on target...at least make the keeper make the save.  Cock it.

Tommy Miller missed. No low key celebration.

H'pool fans singing 'One Tommy Miller'  :D

He wont be starting next game then. :D

This commentary is annoying the beejaysus out of me.

Commentate on the match FFS, the Swindon one.

Didn't Miller miss in the PO final? Surprised he took it. Cunt!

But everyone else wants to know that Swansea are beating QPR 4-0, don't be so selfish.

Caddis wouldn't have missed ;)

What a load of crap.  I can't get my head round professional footballers failing to even hit the target with a penalty, particularly when it's not pressurised ie a cup final, play off final etc.  Utter tripe.

We know he has a long name for fuck's sake.

Liverpool losing 3-0 now too and down to 10 men!

Could be worse lads.

Erm, with the penalty miss I assume it was a straight smash it over the bar effort?

The comments here make me think otherwise, he wasn't trying to be clever was he?.

It is for QPR. 5-0 down at home to Swansea.

Think it was just a miss Batch. You'd think he did so on purpose the way some are going on.

That fucking useless STFC World radio stream is starting the new season as usual - the feed cuts each other minute. Crap service I must say!

Robbery of money!

If these cunts commentated properly we would not have to assume

He's pretty slow on the uptake, commentating on a corner that happened 3mins ago because hes fumbling to get his words out, corner comes in and i think that was williams anyway meantime the ball is back in the swindon half, how did it get there?

Be grateful DRS, I don't even have shit commentary!

Hey hey, Luscombe on. Isn't he the fat boy?

Now is the time come on lads . . . .

How we doing?

Creepy winning 3-0.  Hope we do them by the same scoreline again on Tuesday.

On top now, come on sneak a winner.

Well on top now. Somebody fucking score!

They have brought on fat boy to stand on the line.

am i the only one who would be fine with a point?

A draw will do.  ;)

Annoying, should of won.

FT. Not a bad point.

Tommy Miller - you are a cunt.

I predicted a draw. A missed penalty irks but I won't be lynching Tommy Miller any time soon.

Bit of a heads up to those of us expecting a cake walk

oh well, two home wins coming up...

Nope. Shame we missed a pen, but Hartlepool away has never been an easy place to go. This team will get better too.

Would have taken a point before the game. Big shame about the pen.

I'm fine with it too as long as we beat Creepies on Tuesday!

have(I'm a pedant)

Nowt wrong with a point away. Clean sheet as well.  

Difficult to comment much beyond that. Terrible commentary, didn't know what the fuck was going on much of the time. I did learn that you can see an old warship from the ground though.

Agree with this.

Most disappointing thing about the pen is missing the target, if the keeper saves it then you just have to say well done to the keeper.

Oh well, just have to beat Crawley on Tuesday

Crawley had a good day. Tuesday won't be easy.

I'm not in a great place to judge (didn't watch or listen today) but Miller was completely anonymous against Brighton and has missed a pen today. Why oh why is he preferred to Ferry???

First game back in League 1, an away point, not too shabby

They should have let Caddis take the pen

Point's great, shame for Miller to miss on his league debut, but hey, it's been an odd day for penalties all round, so I think slashing his tyres is a bit unnecessary. Still rather have Ferry though.

I know absolutely nothing about what went on in the match however, as STFCplayer was cacking awful and every time I did actually hear a bit of commentary it was about a ship, or the ground, or the fact Di Canio's looking very tanned.

Got to be looking at Ferry starting, Roberts in as soon as possible and Collins a run-out.

But - sort the Caddis situation out

Good result by the sounds of it considering the pressure we were under at times. Glad to see the defence remain as tight as ever despite the change in personnel, that really bodes well for the rest of the season.

Back at Fortress County Ground on Tuesday. Win our home games and draw away and we're champions!

It's not a bad result... was hoping for a winning start, but that's our furthest game out of the way. Always annoys me when any pro misses the target from 12 yards, so that's a negative. Midfield sounded lost, maybe Ferry could start Tuesday so we haven't got a completely new centre.

Carlisle is further

Got to be happy with a clean sheet away with a new team.

We are Scilly - were top of the (prediction) league  :pint:

It would have been fine if we hadn't missed a cunting penalty!

Referee: 'Here you are, have a penalty, effectively a free goal - just kick the ball into the net, off you go'

Tommy Miller: 'No thanks ref, I'd rather kick the bastard over the bar if it's all the same to you'.

Jesus. Wept.

You're so delirious O!ST that I'm pretty sure it's a wind-up :)

We've missed penalties before, we'll miss penalties in the future.

Yes, and I can assure you, I will go off on one every time. Always have, always will. It's my number 1 pet hate in football :smack:

McCormack:
- Not a point gained but 2 lost
- Got a good telling off for not keeping shape
- Disappointed with the performance.
- Watching video and look for mistakes (of which there will be many) tomorrow
- Can't afford to drop points in this league
- Miller very disappointed to miss penalty against old club
- Sooner we get over today the better. Need to learn from mistakes

On the other hand, we ground out a scrappy draw, which we hardly ever did last season :hmmm:

Fodderingham:
- Didnt play well at all
- No desire nor passion
- Didn't keep the ball enough
- Manager is unhappy
- Can't always win, but didn't play well enough
- Something needs to change in order to get away performances to level of home ones
- Opportunity to win today but wasted. Didn't have cutting edge to score.
- Kept busy today.
- PDC warned that they would put lots of balls into box for big players
- Fodderingham happy with his performance in taking pressure off back 4

Fair enough. I will be monitoring it from now on :)

Clean sheet away from home, according to my Dad at the game, Hartlepool did a sterling job in quickly closing us down most of the time.

I suppose we need to lose 4 games on the trot now and then we'll know this season will be a good 'un

Oh well.

Early days and all that....I remember that wank display at cnumb last season.

Draw away and win at home and you go up.......

Positive.....have a look at Christmas.

Pdc refuses to spewk to press

No post match interview with PDC! He wants to get on bus and go home!!!

...and make up with Caddis hopefully!

Paolo should do some growing up. He's being a dick at the moment.

I am inclined to agree.

Bollockings work best when used sparingly

Not every fucking time things don't go your way

The players must get fed up hearing the rant

Agreed...but he's our dick, and he wont change for anyone.

Di Canio refuses to speak... This is new.

I'm hearing he's resigning on Monday. Had enough of the politics

I've heard he's resigning over the constant speculation he is resigning.

Im resigned to keep reading about him resigning

Wait. There's been rumours (pre-OTans) that he's resigning?

Caddis and him had a game of Buckaroo to see who was going and Caddis won with deft positioning of the saddle bag so PDC's off.

This type of made of bollocks make me fume!

I know one of the players and I can confirm it was Hungry Hippos with PDC smashing the lot across the drivers head when things went against him with Caddis dual tapping!

I don't think so costanza

He's just seen that we're 18th in the table, and he's disgusted at the unfairness of it all because Bournemouth are in 7th and also on 1 point.  He's off to join another club that's earlier in the alphabet than we are.

I read this on the Swindon Town Fans forum so it must be true.

2 points off the top - just not good enough

Sack a couple of players, get some unknown foreign signings in quickly

We've now not scored in 1 games and sit 1 point above the relegation zone. I'd be going fucking postal as well.

I think a ritual burning of STs is called for Tuesday night

Anyone got a coffin?

I've got one ordered - but I may need it soon

How about neither?

:)

I'd lean towards their gifting of a latish pointless pen as a sign of their incipient shitness.

everyones pissed off and so was i but soon after i realised it was only the bleeding first game of the season.... :doh:

Agreed.  We're one game of the new season in and so far he's stripped the captain of his captaincy and dropped him from the squad, publicly slated him and refused to speak to the press because we drew at Hartlepool.  I might be in the minority, but I'm finding it all rather melodramatic and irritating.

If Caddis had been playing we would have probably got 3 points

Sometimes you have to cut crucial members of the squad a bit of slack

And there's absolutely no need for any of it :no:

I don't know what point PDC is trying to make by not talking, the players got a bollocking and they said so on the radio and they owned up to a shit performance, so talk to the press and move on onto Crawley.

Whether he didn't want any curly questions about Caddis I don't know, but for all the fans who pay good money to see them play and pay all their wages the least he can do is talk for his side, Christ it wasn't as if we got smashed up.

You talk when you win and talk when you lose, he gave an interview after both Poxford games and those were far worse than today.

Fucking man-up.

It sounded like we played OK at times.

Oh for the halcyon days of Paul Hart

I'd rather have radio silence then Paul "The Character" Hart talking.

We know what we're getting with PdC

Yes, he's histrionic and yes it sometimes pisses me off

But he gets the job done.

3 points Tuesday and Saturday and all is forgotten

True -that's what it's all about at the end of the day. I suppose we'll get used to it one day.

Stop being a cock Di Canio.

Well done for being the first person to say this. I love Cads but fuck me did me did we not drop any points away from home last season?!

As for Paolo not giving a post match interview, bit melodramatic but that's Paolo. Love him or hate him. We loved him last season, all of a sudden we don't seem do sure. Hate to see what happens in here if we lose a game.

A few people asking Paolo to get a grip need to do the same themselves.

Rant over!

Correct. You are not in a great place to judge!

We've played 2 games, not conceded a goal and knocked a team from a higher division out of a cup. By his own admission Caddis wasn't fit and may not be still. We've got a better squad than last year and the we've got an opportunity to put those yellow scum back in their box. The future is looking great. What's the problem?

What an absolute load of bollocks. Get a grip mate!

I don't think he was saying what you thought he was saying.

Rant all you like, I don't give a fuck, I just gave my opinion. How ever I do apologise for actually having an opinion

End of the day, there's no excuse for not giving an interview after a 0-0 draw, it's a little bit pathetic and he is acting stupid again! If we got battered I could understand it totally and obviously he is pissed off but even so.

If we lose a game I won't really give a fuck because despite all the love for last year we did lose a few, arguably the three biggest games of the season, however, I will criticise him when I think he's dropped a bollock and praise him when the boy does good.

I don't have blind love for the man and in the past week he's been an idiot and I hope normal service continues ASAP because publicly humiliating your club captain is not to be taken lightly and not doing an interview after. 0-0 is ridiculous.

Jeez mate last year Alan Connell couldn't do any thing wrong in your opinion and now Caddis?

Caddis has not been the same since his injury, be it fitness, form or attitude. If he leaves cest la vie. We will find a replacement, as always.

In what respect is it bollocks?

Don't need to apologise for having an opinion. Am I not allowed to disagree then?

Like we found a replacement for Greer?

You could argue that Alan Mac has been more of a success than Greer ever was.

We will struggle to replace Cadds big time. Best right back we've had since Kerslake. At the same time Paolo is the best manager we've had since Hoddle.

Fuck me - just sit down, smack your heads together and sort it out!

I think that's a question Mr Di Canio needs to answer.

Could not agree more!

You could, if McCormack was Greer's replacement.

Absolutely

Just got back!

I've read through some of this thread, but not all of it, but I don't share the pessimism, yes it was a frustrating afternoon,  yes there was an expectation, but today it wasn't to be.

We definitely need stronger cover a RB (not going into the Caddis thing), Roberts will give us more on the left when he's fit & I'd like to see Ferry back in the starting line up, we didn't look good in the middle today.  Fods instils more confidence that any keeper we've had in recent years.

I think we all expected continuation of the Brighton game, unfortunately it didn't happen, it was really hot today and we were OK, we got a point away from home and should have won it, Miller will have nightmares about that one.

The Pools manager (Cooper) said on the radio what a great result it was for them and was complementary about Town in general.    

I remain pretty upbeat, not a great game, but a fair result.

I went too Sleaford and that's pretty much how I feel Sleaford. Had a few shants so didn't manage to get my point across quite so eloquently.

Some interestingish comments on here...

http://www.pooliebunker.co.uk/newbunker/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46198

Think that emphasises just how poor the commentary was.

I am going to keep going on and on about the commentary because it really was that poor. Woeful effort.

HMS Trincomalee and Paolo's tan, for actual cunting sake.

I can see where every one is coming from , but did PDC let us down last season, no, The bloke , like all Italians are bit "loco" when it comes to sport, so he didnt give an interview after the game , who gives a flying ****. In a way its a good thing , when PDC is in a foul mood he rants and dosent think about what he says  so leaving himself open for more disent , prehaps , once hes calmed down he will be more rational over what he says.
From what ive seen we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season, so lets drop a few points at the begining of the season and let the bookies push the odds out , and we all can make a good profit on promotion at the end of the season, simples (sic)
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS :D

Was interesting to read they thought that if they had put more crosses in they would of scored because Wes was really poor At taking the ball at of the air. I Didn't catch much of the game on radio, did Wes really struggle with crosses today ?

My point is that he's given interviews after far worse and refusing to do one day is a bit poor. I get the fact he's a few sandwiches short of a picnic and a little off the wall bu that's no excuse for being a bit of an arse.

No, there was a couple of incidents where he was bundled in the box, but for me Wes is the most consistent performer we have.

Have to agree with the Monkey Hangers about the Ref though, I'm not going to go into a "shit ref rant", but he was woeful, he didn't know what to do, honestly, he was giving us decisions when they should have had them & visa versa.  He didn't give the penalty, even though he was yards away, the linesman did!

Always appears to me that he's constantly looking 5-10 seconds ahead so he deals with any danger before it happens.

But prehaps he is learning, my point is that by saying nothing and thinking about what he is going to say, he will say things in a more moderate way. I will agree he may be a few sandwiches short of a picnic and more than a little off the wall, but wound'nt it be sad if he lost his eccentric ways and and started to be a quiet and dignified manager.

Quite by coincidence, I was watching the Greatest Prem Moments programme on BBC3 this evening.  And at about number 10, they had the West Ham vs Bradford game in 2000 (which finished 5-4 to the Hammers).  Di Canio was getting kicked about and had several decent penalty appeals rejected, and then stopped playing...asking the bench to sub him.  Cue the West Ham fans.  Start singing his name, which galvanises him.  Up he gets, takes charge of the game and scores.  John Barnes [back to the programme here; he wasn't playing] finishes up with 'Good old Paolo.  He just needs a little love.'

So Paolo, here's some from me.  You're not in the best of moods right now, but you'll get through it.  We could have won today - but let's be honest, it would have been lucky.  A point away from home, first game back in Div 3 is not to be scoffed at.  And there will be better days ahead than this.  Pour yourself a nice glass of wine, make up with Paul Caddis - and everyone's happy.  You're doing just fine.

Yep, agreed. I like and dislike aspects of his personality in equal measures I guess.

The win-a-pro blokey is a RB and has already made his debut, wonder if he might get a chance if Caddis remains out of the picture.

The fatbasher posse are now chillaxing in the premier inn @ stockton west.

We could have lost this based on the first half. We should have won it based on the second half.

The ref was out of his depth/comfort zone. He and his assistants as stated gave things they should have not to both teams.

Typical first game if you ask me.

McEverley needs to sharpen up his act, like the Palace game his crossing was wayward.

Collins you twat, at least hit the target,that was inexcusable.

I' m glad i only had the missus and son whining for half an hour on the way back to the hotel. Imagine a six hour coach trip with Paolo on the way back!!!!

Chance to make amends on Tuesday.

Assume you mean Miller or did Collins miss a decent chance as well?

Upon reflection we really wasn't that bad today. Some of our passing in the 1st half was a little wayward, Joe Devera springs to mind. McEveley looked sluggish at times. Thought Collins looked a threat when he came on.

Good turn out from Town fans today, and full credit to the 5 chaps who turned up dressed up as old women, really was a long journey, hopefully one we dont have to do again too soon

I do agree with that. A couple of other examples - Going on about the letters on the back of Troy's shirt - yes, we know, he has a long name!! (I think you may even have commented on that at the time). And another - with 1 minute of stoppage time left - Chris Wise, "And lets have look at some of the other scores"  - errr no, let's 'have a look at the other scores' in 1 minute's time when our game has finished, you daft cunt!

And people say Alan green is a cunt

On the new football league show opening sequence, there's a nice little clip of Hoddle celebrating his Wembley goal. A bit random, but I like it.

Perhaps PDC's reluctance to talk to the press is due to how they reported the whole Caddis saga; front page spreads, inaccurate quotes etc, maybe he feels they're partly to blame for all the speculation?

Well...lets face it.... Green IS a Cunt!!! And a Manc loving cunt at that if im not mistaken.

I dont give a fuck that PDC chose not to do a press call today. He's entitled to be pissed off with the performance, the missed penalty etc. He's not the first manager to decline to talk to the press after a match - though it is an arrogant gesture over accepted protocol.

I suspect he was more pissed off that BBC WS aired the 2-stage interview with Caddis though, rather than anything to do with todays match, and that really fucking pisses me off.

How the Caddis saga was ever allowed to go public in the first place is completely beyond belief.

From a business perspective, Caddis is a very valuable asset.

Putting aside whatever we know or dont know about why the falling out took place, he is a 'first name on the teamsheet' player who was vital to us last season. He was the team captain ffs.

Why the fuck would anyone deliberately humiliate their captain / valuable asset by stripping him of the captains armband, in front of 24 other players during a fucking team meeting, then publicly question his personal life and lack of commitment to the cause by mentioning his Mrs and his new born baby etc?

Actions like that are just suicidal on so many levels.

Caddis had the balls to stand up to PDC in public today, and I applaud him for doing so. He was calm, considered and rational - unlike his boss.

I suspect more than a few of the first team squad are backing Caddis, albeit in secrecy, for the moment.

Tend to agree with the last post. I thought Cadds was quite succinct in is interview.

This Caddis and Di Canio problem is a fucking mess and it needs sorting NOW!!! Even if it takes Wray to get them into a room together and sort it as I can't see Wray being happy with Di Canio if he is forced to sell Caddis before the transfer window shuts and we will have to find a replacement pronto.

Di Canio may be the boss and he has his way which have worked so far but he seriously needs to go on some man management courses because this is in danger of causing some serious problems at this club.

It should have been sorted one way or another last week, it continues to drag on and on........

PDC's comments were from a recorded interview that we all saw, the press reported accurately exactly what he said - he can have no complaints about that.

PDC isn't going to change. This is the offset to the meticulous preparation, the obsessive passion, the world class coaching and all those wins we have had since he arrived. There's no middle ground and Wray and the Board know that. The bigger picture is the important bit in all this. He gets results. He doesn't compromise, apologize or practice pastoral care. He is what he is. Sure we can (and should) pipe up when we think he overdoes it, but the way I look at it is we won't have him here for that long, and we'll miss him when he's gone.

His methods work. The players are starting to realize that if you want to play for us the result is twofold. Firstly, you'll get your balls busted if you don't comply. And secondly, you'll get success. Well worth it in my humble.

On the other hand we could have lost, due to Paul's fitness problem

Based on the Caddis interview I can't help but believe the problem is sorted. The issue this week was fitness. Paul is hardly going to be fit overnight. Give it time and you will see Paul come on as a sub, hopefully for the MK Done match

I read it exactly opposite Only Me, that Caddis felt unjustly treated and need to respond publicly because he hasn't sorted it. PDC does not take public criticism well.

I know JW reads these message boards from time to time. I hope he isn't thinking "why do I bother" due to criticism of this situation. We will all be behind PDC and the team on Tuesday rest assured. Actually this is one of his prize assets we are talking about, so he probably wishes it never happened like the rest of us.

Caddis specifically said in his interview that it's currently a fitness issue. He said so himself. He also said that he is still a town player and, in his own words, it has all been blown out of proportion.

He's just unfit right now. I know Sam Morshead may be reluctant to make that clear but it was that clear in the interview with Caddis. The captaincy is one issue, him not being in the squad is something else entirely.

And Sam Morshead should write for the Sun. He'd fit in well there.  

any one got a link to the interview?

Fine flash, then why did caddis feel the need to even mention he was hurt by having his professionalism questioned, and that family comes first.

pdc just needs to say he's dropped on fitness AND the other issues have been resolved. One sentance. Then everyone can move on and stop second guessing.

End of the day who would people pick if they had to? PDC or caddis. One may have to leave. I know who I'd prefer to go.

The reaction on here all because Of a refusal to give an interview is laughable.

You'd have to back the manager. Would be a stupid situation though. Lets hope it stays hypothetical.

Like I said. The captaincy and him not playing are two different issues.

I did say at the time that perhaps Caddis is just injured and it was suggested I was being over optimistic, looks as though I was not far wrong. It HAS been said that Caddis is not playing because of fitness. Caddis himself has told us that and even if PDC did come out and say it directly then people would still likely not pay attention.

Again, Morshead is being very sensationalist and I know I am not the only one to feel that way. He did it with McCormick and is now doing it with Caddis. Morshead could clearly let everybody know it's currently fitness issue, as has been clearly stated, behind Caddis not playing but that won't help to sell papers.

Look through all the sensationalism and you've just got a player that is disappointed about losing the captaincy, but will be playing again once fit. This is all very clear in the interviews, it's just the press has managed to hype up the situation in a way which makes people look at it from another angle.

I also wonder if PDC didn't speak to the press yesterday for that very reason, although of course that's just a hunch.  

The refusal to give an interview is just a side issue which I don't think anyone really gives a fuck about. The issue, for me at least, are Di Canio's man management skills, or apparent lack of them. You just can't keep falling out with players and if you have a problem with a particular individual, you deal with it privately. That's basic management technique, which applies to any walk of life. As I've said before, even Di Canio's most ardent supporters are going to be hard pushed to say that how he has handled the Caddis situation is good management.

I mean, who is he going to fall out with next? McCormack? Benson? Foderingham?

This is why I so often despise the press. The influence they have is frightening.

None of us can be surprised by DiCanio`s behaviour over the Caddis situation. What was encouraging yesterday was that he managed to bollock the players for underperforming and then keep it in house and NOT go off on one on the radio, maybe he is growing up at last?. From the interviews I have heard with the players no one was arguing that it was anything but below expectations...
A win on Tuesday and suddenly the season has got off to a good start, with or without Caddis.

FWIW I agree with Flashheart and Bathtime on this one.

There won't be a choose between Caddis and PdC thats a pathetic argument and not even remotely realistic.

There was a problem between Caddis and PdC which has been sorted apparently, now there is a problem with Caddis's fitness a totally seperate problem but somehow mysteriously lumped together by some people (on the TEF and in the Press) to become some kind of monster that is about to ruin the club.

I like Caddis, hes a good player and do not wish to see him leave so its up to him to knuckle down and get fit and regain his place in the team now.

Let's hope PDC is starting to learn to keep things in house. As much as I like the man and hope we keep him until we reach the Championship he does my head in.

Despite the lack of comment from PDC, a few reactions to yesterday's game from players on twitter.  I thought both of these were spot on.

Alan Navarro (@alannavarro31)
Not gona say 2 much about yesterdays game, other than we wasn't good enough, chance 2 put it rite on tues, thx 2 all the fans who travelled.

Wes Foderingham (@wes_foderingham)
Disappointing result and performance from us today.  Another cleano though so not all doom and gloom. Need a win Tuesday night now. Thanks to the fans that travelled all the way up aswell

Di canio could have kept the Caddis situation behind closed doors if he wished. He could have said Caddis wasn't fit and Maccca will be captain for now. That would have given Caddis the chance to sort himself out and nobody need have known.
The club covered for Flint last year when he got ko'd and made up an injury whilst he recovered. Why couldn't they have done the same for the skipper who had a new baby and had lost a bit of fitness?

The problem is that PdC is a media dream, full of opinions, quotes, comments etc. etc. and he is happy to talk all day and the Adver/BBC just love it as he makes it easy for them, and until now we have seen both the good and bad points of these interviews.

Yesterdays non appearance may be the Hartlepool result, but I wonder if it more to do with the BBC interview with Caddis (which was repeated again before the game) and referred to more than once during the not very good commentary.

To my mind the whole saga has been badly handled and the sooner a conclusion is reached then the better for all concerned as I want the Town to push on in this Division and not be distracted by off field problems.

It certainly sounds as though Caddis was hurt by both PdC's actions and even more so by the way it has been handled since.  However he appears to want to put it behind him and move on.  I just hope that PdC can be sufficiently mature to do that and not to bear any grudges.
The thing that concerns me most is that if he can upset Caddis so easily, how many others will he hurt over time?  Its all very well that players want to play where they will get success but at the end of the day if they are not feeling happy at work day in and day out this could lead to some deciding they'd prefer to get away.  We have a good proportion of our squad out of contract at the end of the season and I just hope that PdC's man-management doesn't end up with players we'd want to keep preferring to look elsewhere.

If Caddis said he wasn't going to be playing again, there'd be a meltdown.
When he says he's just not fit, it's ignored.

Some of you have been had. The adver are milking it and making it out to be something it isn't and you are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

I'm going to the beach.

woah woah wait flint go ko'd?

Im actually encourage by Pdc not giving an interview. He was obviously very unhappy with the performance and for once he ignored the media. As we all know it would not have been pretty. Therefore avoiding another media storm. Maybe he has finally learnt.

With reference with Caddis I'm actually encouraged by his reaction. He is disappointed by the situation but seems very much wanting to move on. This is where pdc also needs to move on.

I've been on the end of a few bollickings in my time and I respect the manager more who dishes it out, both parties say their piece and both parties move. The ones I don't have a respect for are the ones that dont move on and hold a grudge and everyone just nods to with fear to airing opposing views. If caddis is not in the squad Tuesday, especially after a team that did not perform on Saturday then he ain't coming back.

Yes, he got sparked out up old town, near the end of last season. Apparently he was giving it the big one and got what he deserved.

Or he's not fit.

I agree providing Caddis is fit.

oh cheers i didnt know that haha

Any Adver sports writer would have sensationalised this, it's their job.

The whole thing has been handled badly by everyone involved - Paolo, Caddis, the board, the Adver and the fans.

But we can't afford to continue to indulge Paolo's falling out with players, no one is bigger than the team in my opinion and he needs to learn how to deal with issues in the dressing room.

And there's me thinking it's their job to report the facts :doh:

in a sensationalised manner in order to gain more readers ;)

or perhaps I'm too cynical

They have reported the facts, just not in the order that would make it less sensationalist

Still recovering a little yesterday,the beer and the sunshine along with ten odd hours sat in a mini bus seems to have left its mark today a little.
Got to say Jacksons Wharf on the little quayside was nice....lovely little old fishing wharf and though the beer wasn't great the fact that there were no TV's on the wall or in the pub at all made it all the better in my opinion....sitting in the hot north east sunshine with a beer and chilling,what more could i want apart from the win to top it off.
A good atmosphere for the game and got to say i found the Hartlepool fans a good bunch.
A rather poor first half was forgotten after the break and we dominated after apart from one effort that hit the bar.
My only small critism is that i think our wide men play to deep at times....Ritchie often deep in his own half to get the ball.
Never understood why strikers do not take penalties but there you go....could have had another one when Benson was bundled over and though really disapointed with the penalty miss a point gained ooop north will do for me.

Troy Archibald Henville was outstanding and my MOM by a long way.....he will take a lot of shoving to get out of the team,could be a gem in the making.
Enjoyed the day and Hartlepool was another ground marked off that list of mine,two clean sheets is a positive sign.

Point gained or two dropped would you say??

For me a point gained because its early doors and it means we are up and running,if it was at the seasons end may be a little different.
It was very,very hot and even the subs struggled with the conditions when they came on.

Thanks for that Leef, nice to have a more positive slant on things instead of the petty whinging about PdC vs Caddis.

Glad to hear we did quite well in your opinion, as it confirms what I have heard from a few other fans that went.

Shame Miller missed the penalty as I read somewhere he has scored most of his goals from penalties and has bagged well over 40 of them and not missed that many.

Roll on Tuesday to get the perfomance and result right against Creepy.

THank fuck. The voice of reason

Surprised at the unnecessary criticism people gave Ritchie yesterday, he worked hard and has the right to shoot from distance with some of his scorchers last season, really didnt understand the comments some people came out with, De Vita did naff all' all game but Ritchie got alot of stick for shooting and trying to take on players. Did people forget he was L2 Players of the year or something?
I know he cocked up big time when he should of played that ball through but really the comments for ritchie were far too over the top  ???

Yeah I'm with with Diggler and Edmunds on this.. Decent post Leefer

I don't see much on here that's unreasonable, just some different points of view, that's all.

Sorry, my mistake, had a few sherberts by then.

Jacksons Wharf was nice wasn't it. I thought the jogger real ale was top drawer.

Dont think I want to read any of my posts from last night

Not bad....saw you in the fancy dress.....did you see the swimmer?

I saw the swimmers. Was not in fancy dress though. We were sat towards the sailing ship end of the decking area.

First chance to comment since Saturday having stayed up in Newcastle....

-Great turnout by the fans
-Not the greatest performance....but the first game of the season
-Miller didn't look confident when he stepped up to take the penalty
-Stop over in Newcastle was class, managed to get into the Newcastle v Spurs game for the 2nd half in the away end after being given a couple of freebies by some Spurs fans who walked out a half time.....it's a long way up
-Treble shots on offer
-Everyone thought we came from Essex when we said we're from Swindon......!

I see Paolo's not speaking to the media for the usual post-match comments. Personally I see this as a good thing. Seems like he's determined to just get the job done without distractions.

Personally he's started to do my swede in a little bit

Are the highlights on the Net anymore??  BBC...SKY...Virgin???

Was just about to post the same question, nought on the Beeb site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01m9fsk/The_Football_League_Show_2012_2013_18_08_2012/

Not seen it, but probably about 10 seconds worth on that.