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« Reply #10980 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 12:50:39 »

Not that it matters to the emotion of the argument, but the chartwells contract wasnít to spend £30 worth of food per child - they were contracted to provide a certain number of meals per child (no reference to cost)

More a point of pedantry than anything, the £25 profiteering isnít technically true. The shameful rations the kids got, and the fact it was worse than they were previously entitled to, is though
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« Reply #10981 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 13:12:42 »

Not that it matters to the emotion of the argument, but the chartwells contract wasnít to spend £30 worth of food per child - they were contracted to provide a certain number of meals per child (no reference to cost)

More a point of pedantry than anything, the £25 profiteering isnít technically true. The shameful rations the kids got, and the fact it was worse than they were previously entitled to, is though
It replaced a scheme where parents were given a £30 voucher to spend on food in supermarkets. It's reasonable to assume the budget was proportionate to that, unless you're suggesting that as well as private profiteering the govt have also used this as an excuse to slash the budget as well?

It's also worth noting that the "hampers" as Chartwells refer to them fall well below the standards set out in the DfE guidelines that school lunches are supposed to meet. Either way, they have not fulfilled the contracts they have been paid handsomely from taxpayers' money for and should be stripped of those contracts.
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« Reply #10982 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 13:19:14 »

It's also worth noting that the "hampers" as Chartwells refer to them fall well below the standards set out in the DfE guidelines that school lunches are supposed to meet.

Starmer read the guidelines out at PMQs and they weren't far off - basically missing some milk and some ham. Even if they'd delivered to spec it would be a miserable thing.
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« Reply #10983 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 14:49:33 »

They could always go back to the topic of fishing to distract from the real issues again. Or start putting fish in the lunchboxes

I don't think that would do them any favours. Many of the folk of Brixham for instance ain't happy post brexit when the majority wanted it as they thought they'd benefit and the reality is they won't.
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« Reply #10984 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 14:52:40 »

Starmer read the guidelines out at PMQs and they weren't far off - basically missing some milk and some ham. Even if they'd delivered to spec it would be a miserable thing.
In terms of items, maybe, but the nutritional value was well below the requirements. But yes as you say, either way it is utterly miserable, the govt's spec is miserly and Chartwells even skimped on that. What a terrible way for a rich 1st world country to treat families in need. A twitter user did a breakdown of the calorific value of Chartwell's "hamper" and it's well below a child's basic needs. And that's just calories, not even looking at essential vitamins and other nutrients

https://twitter.com/JoeStephenson96/status/1348934091459203075
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« Reply #10985 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 14:53:46 »

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I don't think that would do them any favours. Many of the folk of Brixham for instance ain't happy post brexit when the majority wanted it as they thought they'd benefit and the reality is they won't.


oh well.

(I don't like fish anyway, except cod in batter Smiley )
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« Reply #10986 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 14:56:57 »


oh well.

(I don't like fish anyway, except cod in batter Smiley )

Me neither. prawns is all I'll eat from the sea. Love Brixham though so take a keen interest in the area/news etc.
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« Reply #10987 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 15:04:52 »

yeah, Brixham and fishing villages like that are lovely

I don't really want to see the industry die off. just don't have much sympathy if it does
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« Reply #10988 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 15:10:16 »

It replaced a scheme where parents were given a £30 voucher to spend on food in supermarkets. It's reasonable to assume the budget was proportionate to that, unless you're suggesting that as well as private profiteering the govt have also used this as an excuse to slash the budget as well

Erm, yeah I think thatís exactly what I was saying
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« Reply #10989 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 15:42:04 »

yeah, Brixham and fishing villages like that are lovely

I don't really want to see the industry die off. just don't have much sympathy if it does

Oh it will die off. Hence why there's fighting over fishing grounds in the first place. Humans have decimated the seas. Dwindling fish stocks due to overfishing.
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« Reply #10990 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 15:48:58 »

Me neither. prawns is all I'll eat from the sea. Love Brixham though so take a keen interest in the area/news etc.
I've probably been overly politicised on the (anti) Brexit front.  Big business may be "inconvenienced" but it can afford to adapt and we can argue about the casualties.

But for the little guy and the small business, I think the travel restrictions and especially the trade restrictions will cause a loss of viable trade and quality of life  

"Local", in terms of fresh produce, just like the fish themselves, doesn't recognise national boundaries.

It's a lose:lose for neighbouring, local communities that there are now extra barriers to the trade of beautiful fresh fish and produce between us and Ireland and the Continent.  I think the little guys in Brixham and its continental equivalents have more in common than differences.

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« Reply #10991 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 17:22:34 »

Still lying.... https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1349401389659783173?s=20
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« Reply #10992 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 17:31:52 »

Me neither. prawns is all I'll eat from the sea. Love Brixham though so take a keen interest in the area/news etc.
Used to live down that way. Great walk from Paignton front along the coast walk. Lunchtime in the pubs by the harbour before stumbling back. Add in cold winds with big waves and you have a real treat. Most of Torbay considered Brixham folk to be a bit odd. I thought they were fine but, as was often pointed out, I'm from Swindon.
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« Reply #10993 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 18:37:43 »

Used to live down that way. Great walk from Paignton front along the coast walk. Lunchtime in the pubs by the harbour before stumbling back. Add in cold winds with big waves and you have a real treat. Most of Torbay considered Brixham folk to be a bit odd. I thought they were fine but, as was often pointed out, I'm from Swindon.

I plan to move to the area. As soon as the Mrs gives the green light I'm there. If nd the locals friendly and I've been there out of season plenty of times in their pubs etc.
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« Reply #10994 on: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 19:15:07 »

Something that I think everyone needs to read. I hope more attention can be drawn to this and the world can unite in condemnation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/12/uighur-xinjiang-re-education-camp-china-gulbahar-haitiwaji
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