Let's Get Political!

[horlock07]

Sadly so so predicable....

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news...r-brexit-plans-according-to-reports-1-9225210

Looks like even the secret little promises are falling apart.....

[Legends-Lounge]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5897401/BAE-Systems-lands-20BN-deal-build-Australian-warships-Brexit-boost.html

 

[jayohaitchenn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5897401/BAE-Systems-lands-20BN-deal-build-Australian-warships-Brexit-boost.html

 

They're being built in Australia.

[Reg Smeeton]

They're being built in Australia.

 

[pauld]

Aussie jobs for Aussie workers, massive profits for non-dom shareholders. It's the very spirit of what Brexit is all about!

[Posh Red]

Aussie jobs for Aussie workers, massive profits for non-dom shareholders. It's the very spirit of what Brexit is all about!

Yeah, but it stops them coming over here and stealing our jobs

[Reg Smeeton]

Aussie jobs for Aussie workers, massive profits for non-dom shareholders. It's the very spirit of what Brexit is all about!

The Aussies will need skilled shipbuiders though, so the unemployed shipbuilders of Tyne and Wear can apply to emigrate....one snag being you have to be under 45.

[Flashheart]

Did this deal happen because of Brexit, or despite it. It's really not a valid pro-brexit argument if it's the former, which I suspect it is.

[Reg Smeeton]

Did this deal happen because of Brexit, or despite it. It's really not a valid pro-brexit argument if it's the former, which I suspect it is.

It's simply a business deal.... albeit in the defence sector where some politics will come into it.  The likes of the Mail and their fellow Brexiteers, would have the gullible believe that although eligible to tender for the contract Italian and Spanish companies lost out because they're in the EU.

[chalkies_shorts]

But then do you think the CEOs of Airbus and BMW weren't exerting political influence on behalf of macron and Merkel. Either side will do anything to gain advantage in negotiations. It's what happens and I expect it to get a lot juicier yet. Project fear will be ramped up substantially as will the gold paved roads we will have if we leave.
Both labour and Tories are divided on the EU as are the general electorate. Despite may winning last week's vote I still expect the two houses to vote out anything other than the softest brexit and then all the bickering can start all over again.
The one thing that is blatantly clear is that the country was not ready for the referendum. Both sides were unworthy of our trust. It should have been deferred until some indisputable facts were presented so at least we had some solid foundations before the bollox was added.

[pauld]

The one thing that is blatantly clear is that the country was not ready for the referendum. Both sides were unworthy of our trust. It should have been deferred until some indisputable facts were presented so at least we had some solid foundations before the bollox was added.

This is the single best comment I've seen on the whole debacle.

[Reg Smeeton]

This is the single best comment I've seen on the whole debacle.

It is an excellent point, however the vote happened, and the triggering of Article 50 happened quickly after that. There was probably no constitutional reason why a period of reflective debate couldn't have taken place, before triggering Art 50, as to just what was voted for.

[chalkies_shorts]

It is an excellent point, however the vote happened, and the triggering of Article 50 happened quickly after that. There was probably no constitutional reason why a period of reflective debate couldn't have taken place, before triggering Art 50, as to just what was voted for.

That was a total may fuck up. I think the idea was to trigger article 50 and then confidently negotiate after a barnstorming election win. She could be a latter day Boudicca. We know how that went.
I think even those like me who voted out are stunned at two things. First of all the total ineptitude of our negotiating stance. It may all come good but at the moment it's a shambles. A fuck up upon a fuck up. Secondly, the number of people who would love to see brexit fail to be proved right. I don't have a problem with remainers fighting their corner as they should do so but to want brexit to fail I can't understand. Surely it's in all our interests to make it work.if it doesn't then fair enough.
I think a period of reflection would probably have just seen the same shit over a longer period.

[pauld]

That was a total may fuck up. I think the idea was to trigger article 50 and then confidently negotiate after a barnstorming election win. She could be a latter day Boudicca. We know how that went.
I think even those like me who voted out are stunned at two things. First of all the total ineptitude of our negotiating stance. It may all come good but at the moment it's a shambles. A fuck up upon a fuck up. Secondly, the number of people who would love to see brexit fail to be proved right. I don't have a problem with remainers fighting their corner as they should do so but to want brexit to fail I can't understand. Surely it's in all our interests to make it work.if it doesn't then fair enough.
I think a period of reflection would probably have just seen the same shit over a longer period.

Again, I agree with all of this. Mods, can I just set up some kind of auto-echo of "+1" on all Chalkie's posts from now on?

[horlock07]

This is the single best comment I've seen on the whole debacle.

Nearly, Danny Dyer's on the TV last night probably trumps it....