Question and debate with Ironside

[Ironside]

Yes, but I'm talking here about your feeling as an individual not the way the legal system handles it. Would you feel wors if a "black" caused harm to you or yor kin than if an "English" person dod so?

My computer fucked up so had to re-start, now eveything is in small writing.

My "feelings" would be exactly the same, irrelivent of the ethnic origin of the perpetrator of the crime.  They are scum who deserve to punished. End of.

[pauld]

All British citizens should be afforded the full protection of the law. "race" does not come into it the equation.

That's an interesting get out. As I'm sure you're aware at the last election, the BNP stood on a manifesto of stripping those non-whites that it could not deport of their citizenship - they would be allowed to remain in the country only as "guests". Hence as they would not be citizens they would not be afforded the full protection of the law, under your terms

[chalkies_shorts]

So not only are you a cunt by your own piss taking definition , but a pretty good one. I am a drunken one.

[Ironside]

Do you think a British Citizen shouldn't be allowed to live overseas, say if they are retiring?

Provided they are allowed to live there by the local government, are not criminals, illegally living there, can support themselves without drawing on the resources of their host nation and population, there shouldn't be problem should there?

[red socks]

My computer fucked up so had to re-start, now eveything is in small writing.

My "feelings" would be exactly the same, irrelivent of the ethnic origin of the perpetrator of the crime.  They are scum who deserve to punished. End of.

What like all the thugs like Nick griffin employed by hte BNP?

Hope you enjoyed your takeaway, they would be a thing of the past if your mates in the BNP get their way

[Talk Talk]

So not only are you a cunt by your own piss taking definition , but a pretty good one. I am a drunken one.

Hey pretty good cunt or drunken one, they all look and feel good to me.

[Simon Pieman]

Provided they are allowed to live there by the local government, are not criminals, illegally living there, can support themselves without drawing on the resources of their host nation and population, there shouldn't be problem should there?

So by the same token there's no problem with legal immigration to the UK, even for retirees from foreign countries.

[chalkies_shorts]

Hey pretty good cunt or drunken one, they all look and feel good to me.

I wouldn't feel good to you and I'm a drunken cunt

[Talk Talk]

I wouldn't feel good to you and I'm a drunken cunt

You can't be that drunk, you have posted some coherent questions and comments.

Can you walk down this straight line?

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[Ironside]

Their "perceived racism" is their sole point. Do you agree with the following statement (again taken from the constitution, in the section headed "Statement of Principles" - ie this is the very core of what the party you wish to be in government stands for):

And from the same section, this is the BNP's policy on immigration. Is it a fair summary of yours?

If you are asking me whether the fact that they like their supporters and members to be of a certain "racial" group, is problem then the answer is no.  I don't have a problem with that. It is after all a sign of a multi-cultural society that people of all different races and religions and political viewpoints etc etc are able to come together as a group and are able to fight for their common objectives.  It is absolutely no different to the massive number of organisations that would turn me away away for being a white English christian male,should I try to join them.  So are you suggesting that because the BNP wish to represent a particlar section of the "community" they should be banned? If you are then you should support the banning of ALL organisation that repsresent a particlar race or releigion surely? If not, you are not better than those you condemn.

[Ironside]

That's an interesting get out. As I'm sure you're aware at the last election, the BNP stood on a manifesto of stripping those non-whites that it could not deport of their citizenship - they would be allowed to remain in the country only as "guests". Hence as they would not be citizens they would not be afforded the full protection of the law, under your terms

They are not indiginous, that is fact. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be here or affordeed the full protection of the law.

Now are you asking me what my opinion is or are you asking what the opinion of the BNP is?

[pauld]

If you are asking me whether the fact that they like their supporters and members to be of a certain racial group, is problem then the answer is no.  I don't have a problem with that. It is after all a sign of a multi-sultural society that people of all different races and religions and political viewpoints etc etc are able to come together as a group and are able to fight for their common objectives.  It is aboslutely no different to the massive number of organisations that would turn me away away for being a white English male,should I try to join them.  So are you suggesting that because the BNP wish to represent a particlar section of the "community" they should be banned? If you are then you should support the banning of ALL organisation that repsresent a particlar race or releigion surely? If not, you are not better than those you condemn.

Whitewash, you've completely ducked the section taken from the core principles set out in the party constitution that says the BNP "is wholly opposed to any form of racial
integration between British and non-European peoples." Is that your view?

And I ask again, does the party's stated policy on immigration "It is therefore committed
to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by
legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white makeup of the
British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948." represent your view?

This is a bit more than a chum club for nice white lads isn't it?

[chalkies_shorts]

Coherent - oh bollox - my evenings objectives have not been achieved. I'm off to bed. Cunt - thinking I'm coherrent. Cunt again. And oh yes, to fit in with the TEF mafiosi Ironside you are a cunt also althuogh I will make no attempt to understand you as you are not worrthy of it as I'v e got you prejudged just like we pereceive you to prejudge the "blacks".
I'm fucked.

[Talk Talk]

Now are you asking me what my opinion is or are you asking what the opinion of the BNP is?

A serious question - where do you sit with regards to that?

Do you fully support BNP policy or are you on the margins and would like it modified to fit your personal thoughts?

[Ironside]

What like all the thugs like Nick griffin employed by hte BNP?

Hope you enjoyed your takeaway, they would be a thing of the past if your mates in the BNP get their way

Are you mentally retarded or just born to be a fucking prick?