Title: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 11:52:43 To the scumbag scrote that burgled my place last night, I am going to hunt you down and shit in your mouth. Silly boy leaving blood all over the place from when you broke in. I can understand you taking my laptop, PS3 Wii etc but why the fuck did you nick my glasses.
Oh, and by the way, you left all the leads for the PS3 and the Wii. ... I have them here if you want to pop back for them. Cheers you cunt ! Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 11:54:21 You got burglarized last night? Fuck. Sorry to hear that and I hope you get a chance to knife the cunt.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 11:58:13 I reckon it was Beano
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:13:22 I reckon it was Beano no it wasn't already been round there Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Bennett on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:20:45 ahhh i wanted to buy a ps3, if you find out who he is i'll give him £100 for it but only if he gets the leads
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Sussex on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:24:29 Fuckers.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:25:05 Fucking hell Fred thats shit, if you find him I will willing kick the shit out of the wanker with you, the fucking scumbag deserves retribution.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Crispy on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:31:48 What a cunt. Hope you find him and give him one mate.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:34:48 Bastards. Sorry to hear that Fred, hope you find the scrotes
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:38:12 That's shit then.
I'll keep an eye on gumtree/ebay for a blood soaked PS3. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: yeo on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:02:29 Where was your Dog?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:05:01 Sorry to hear that Fred. That's just shit
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:05:55 Where was your Dog? asleep with Jenna in her room, fucking useless thing. Mind you if he was downstairs he would probably think "oooooohhhh look new friends to play with !" Title: Re: Burgled Post by: yeo on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:07:20 oh wow didnt realise you guys were in ,that shit.If you find out any names i'll hold the fucker down for you.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:08:17 Joking aside, they didn't nick some games, Play TV and a QED HDMI lead did they?
This looks very cheap added today... http://swindon.gumtree.com/swindon/60/66774960.html And as we all know, it is alleged that Gumtree is the UK's biggest "fence" after ebay. Allegedly. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:09:16 We are ok ................. just really shaken that someone was here when we were asleep.
I am insured upto the hilt and material things can be replaced, but they took my laptop with all my current work on it, plus my laptop bag with my own EHD that had over 18 years worth of work on it. That can never be replaced Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:10:53 Joking aside, they didn't nick some games, Play TV and a QED HDMI lead did they? This looks very cheap added today... http://swindon.gumtree.com/swindon/60/66774960.html And as we all know, it is alleged that Gumtree is the UK's biggest "fence" after ebay. Allegedly. no mate Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 13:58:48 sorry to hear your news fred.
robbing someones house when they are in is insane. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: tans on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:00:10 sorry to hear your news fred. robbing someones house when they are in is insane. Ditto I hope you merk the cunt/s Title: Re: Burgled Post by: leefer on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:12:47 Nothing to add Fred.....really sorry for you.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:35:48 as the twat left blood i'm sure the law will catch him.whether he will get proper justice is another thing.
bound to have previous and i'd bet is a heroin addict. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: DV on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:37:11 If you catch the fucker and he's riding a red 15 year old Raleigh Max mountain bike - that's mine!!
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:41:08 as the twat left blood i'm sure the law will catch him.whether he will get proper justice is another thing. bound to have previous and i'd bet is a heroin addict. In all honsty the police have been brilliant, credit where its due. The soco said that he would probably be already known to them. Now they have his blood and prints all over my place they are quite optimistic. As for proper justice, there is more than one way of skinning a cat Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Freddies Ferret on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:44:41 How they get in mate?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:58:56 In all honsty the police have been brilliant, credit where its due. If he's left blood and prints all over the place, there's a good chance he's been caught before. He's no Raffles is he?The soco said that he would probably be already known to them. Now they have his blood and prints all over my place they are quite optimistic. Quote As for proper justice, there is more than one way of skinning a cat Don't skin his cat, it's not the cat's fault. Just kick the shit out of himTitle: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 14:59:54 If he's left blood and prints all over the place, there's a good chance he's been caught before. He's no Raffles is he?Don't skin his cat, it's not the cat's fault. Just kick the shit out of him Kick the shit out of the cat? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 15:21:36 as the twat left blood i'm sure the law will catch him.whether he will get proper justice is another thing. bound to have previous and i'd bet is a heroin addict. A crackhead smashed through the back door and broke into my missus' parents home last New Years Eve. It was before midnight and while several people were downstairs! He lived just round the corner. He was nicked and went inside (again). Their garden is like Fort Knox now! The desperation of a drug addict is quite a sight... They have no plan other than to secure their next fix. At work I've seen them come in at 9am and in handcuffs by 9:10. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Sippo on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 15:36:16 It's shocking what lengths people go to- hope all is ok Fred and Jenna is ok.
Why your gaff though? Unless he tried all the houses along your road? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:19:40 Shit that's rubbish mate. Hope you're alright. At least the blood is a good clue for the boys in blue so hopefully they'll catch them quickly.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:37:33 How they get in mate? popped the lock on the front door according to the locksmith that has just left its a piece of piss if you know what you are doing just paid extra for a double deadlock Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:43:09 It's shocking what lengths people go to- hope all is ok Fred and Jenna is ok. Why your gaff though? Unless he tried all the houses along your road? just heard that 4 doors down got done too Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:45:50 expect to be enraged further down the line here fred.
the snivelling robber will no doubt have that skinny cunt rob ross pleading with the court how the evil drugs are to blame and he's a good guy really. will probably get a pathetic sentence,or even just free rehab out of it. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:50:29 expect to be enraged further down the line here fred. the snivelling robber will no doubt have that skinny cunt rob ross pleading with the court how the evil drugs are to blame and he's a good guy really. will probably get a pathetic sentence,or even just free rehab out of it. dont fret arriba I will be at the court case and then I will make his life a fucking misery and he will wish they had locked him up. Realised earlier he has taken my camera as well Title: Re: Burgled Post by: herthab on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 16:58:13 Sorry to hear that Andy. If there's blood all over your gaff hopefully the cunt cut a main artery.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: jb on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 17:11:23 expect to be enraged further down the line here fred. the snivelling robber will no doubt have that skinny cunt rob ross pleading with the court how the evil drugs are to blame and he's a good guy really. will probably get a pathetic sentence,or even just free rehab out of it. Is he the rat boy with the ponytail? Is he legal aid something? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 19:28:20 Gutted for you mate. Saw on Jenna's facebook earlier this morning and couldn't believe it.
A woman I work with had a creeper burglary earlier this year. The old bill were top notch and nicked the little scrotes within a couple of days. Managed to get all their stuff back too. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 19:29:06 Fred,
Hope they catch the bastard and he gets punished...severely. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, October 10, 2010, 20:48:22 Is he the rat boy with the ponytail? Is he legal aid something? That's the one. He seems to defend just about everyone in Swindon, usually when it's an assault or robbery charge. What an awful thing to happen, particularly when you were in bed. I don't understand how anyone would take the risk. Hope the fucker is caught. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: nevillew on Monday, October 11, 2010, 08:40:06 Sorry to hear this news Fred.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Power to people on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:11:08 Fuck me that's a real shitter, and then you have to pay your insurance excess to replace all the stolen geer due to some little fucker needing to seel a few things to get a fix - hunt him down deal him a 'real' sentence
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rustle on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:15:17 Scumbag or Scumbags lets hope they catch them but do the old bill go to the trouble getting DAN for burglaries as i was under the impression they only do that for rape/murder.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:20:07 Scumbag or Scumbags lets hope they catch them but do the old bill go to the trouble getting DAN for burglaries as i was under the impression they only do that for rape/murder. yeah SOCO were all over the place taking swabs of blood, fingerprints and photo's Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rustle on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:24:09 yeah SOCO were all over the place taking swabs of blood, fingerprints and photo's Thats good news then lets hope they catch them. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: redbullzeye on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:32:38 Sorry to hear this, hope you and Jenna are OK. I'm sure you'll let us all know the name of the bastard when the coppers catch up with him
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, October 11, 2010, 09:54:55 Sorry Fred....lets hope the Old Bill come up trumps.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:17:12 Are you sure it wasn't your ghost?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:50:34 ha fucking ha
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:15:32 ha fucking ha Gobsmacked ! After being so upset yesterday I am on the phone to victim support who gave me a bell, when there is a knock at the front door. I opens it to see standing on the doorstep a spotty 16 year old, his Mum, his Dad, his Step Dad and a big back of all my stuff. They frogmarch him into the lounge and hand me back my stuff and give me the "he's not a bad lad" and "this is the first time he's ever done anything like this" speech. Mum is distraught and asks me what I am going to do. I says I cant think at the moment but I will speak to the OB. They leave and I speak to the OB who say they will be right round. 5 mins later his old man turns back up wanting to be my new best mate, just as the OB turn up. His old man does a sharp exit right and the OB comes on in. Do I want to press charges ? Fuck me yes I fucking do. Little cunt lives about 100 yards away and quite obviously thick as fuck. He fucks off to College today and leaves all my gear on his bedroom floor. His Mum goes in to make the bed etc and hey presto. Fucking little cunt, only left school this year Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Saxondale on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:16:50 Fuck me. Was it crispy?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:18:31 Mental. Glad you've got some justice.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Batch on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:19:37 Glad you got all the stuff back.
Hopefully pressing charges actually helps the thick shit take a different path in life. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:21:45 How fucking weird.
If that was my son, I don't know what I would do. I would like to think I would shop him but is that the best thing? Surely the CPS would prosecute anyhow? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: iffy on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:22:45 What a weird situation. I'd be tempted to press charges. He has to realise mummy and daddy can't get him out of trouble his entire life.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:23:55 Glad you got all the stuff back. Hopefully pressing charges actually helps the thick shit take a different path in life. exactly, I really feel for his parents, who are obviously a good sort, but I cant let anyone else go through the 36 hours that I have just had to endure Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:28:00 You have your stuff back and the parents obviously care, I guess they will dish out better punishment than the courts
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:28:15 What a weird situation. I'd be tempted to press charges. He has to realise mummy and daddy can't get him out of trouble his entire life. Its not that, he fucking broke in to my fucking house when myself and my daughter were asleep. I had to have her sleeping in my bed last night and now she is reticent about staying here. I am separated and I only get to have her to stay every other weekend. That my friend is damage. More damage than you can put a price on Prosecute the cunt to the fucking hilt Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:29:10 You have your stuff back and the parents obviously care, I guess they will dish out better punishment than the courts disaggree Title: Re: Burgled Post by: leefer on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:32:16 Tough one Fred...............fact is though he wont get prosecuted...a slap on the wrist and maybe community service at most.
Feel bad for you and hopefully your strife has made us all aware at how we must be secure at night. All the best to you bud in what you decide. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: suttonred on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:32:55 Its not that, he fucking broke in to my fucking house when myself and my daughter were asleep. I had to have her sleeping in my bed last night and now she is reticent about staying here. I am separated and I only get to have her to stay every other weekend. That my friend is damage. More damage than you can put a price on Prosecute the cunt to the fucking hilt I dont normally comment on these things, but I reckon you need to take stock. The parents obviously have balls bringing him round, might be they can put him back to being a decent person, once courts are involved might be a slippery slope and he does turn out to be a complete scumbag, because options get limited? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: iffy on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:33:00 Not disagreeing with you at all. But you're likely to come under pressure from the police and the parents to let this "one" go. I wouldn't. Lessons need learning.
On a lighter note, my dog sounds tough if you're the wrong side of the door, but if you come in he's likely to roll over and want his tummy tickled. I can imagine him bringing a burglar one of my socks. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:33:32 Not for any of us to say what Fred should or should not do. It's his piece of mind (and probably more importantly Jenna's) that's been violated, which I guess is way more important than the stuff. But I'd take my hat off to the parents - that takes real guts and shows the lad a proper example. If more parents acted like they did, we'd have a lot less problems
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:33:43 The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:36:58 The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew They may surprise us all and chop his hands offTitle: Re: Burgled Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:38:37 They may surprise us all and chop his hands off Sharia law - Crispy will be pleased. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:39:51 With the greatest of respect, until it has happened to you and quite literally your whole life is turned upside down then you are trying to reason from a weak position.
Come back and give advice when your Daughter says she does not want to come round to see you anymore. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: iffy on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:41:42 Not for any of us to say what Fred should or should not do. Good evening. Welcome to the Internet. Have you been here before? ;) Quote It's his piece of mind (and probably more importantly Jenna's) that's been violated, which I guess is way more important than the stuff. But I'd take my hat off to the parents - that takes real guts and shows the lad a proper example. If more parents acted like they did, we'd have a lot less problems. This depends. Plenty of nasty pieces of work have parents who only ever wanted the best for their kids. Whilst it's sad when 16/17 year olds have brushes with the justice system, actions have consequences, no matter how admirable the parents. Fred has to do what he thinks is right. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: dogs on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:42:24 No way in hell would I let him get away with it. How many times may he have done this to others? Being 16 is irrelevant, 10 year olds know not to do this. Hopefully it will knock some sense into him. If not, then he's a cock and deserves whatever the life he chooses.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:45:05 My supervisor at work has a younger brother who is a criminal and his parents/family have disowned him.
He lingers outside the store from time to time, he has HMP tattooed on his forehead (no joke). Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:46:48 The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew Thats up to the courts Si He needs to be processed through the system to give him the fright of his fucking life at the least Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:52:19 Do what you like Fred, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. But put it on the internet and people will put their two pence worth into the pot.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:55:21 Do what you like Fred, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. But put it on the internet and people will put their two pence worth into the pot. wasnt expecting anything else Si I posted what happened so I thought it right that I posted what the conclusion was Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:03:11 Well let us know what happens next.
Maybe an inappropriate time/place, but say if Jenna did this how would you deal with it? I'm not saying she would do that, but I'm just interested how a parent would handle the situation if the shoe was on the other foot, since parenting has been brought into it. **Disclaimer** No. I haven't got Crispy pregnant, he's just fat. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:09:36 Well let us know what happens next. Maybe an inappropriate time/place, but say if Jenna did this how would you deal with it? I'm not saying she would do that, but I'm just interested how a parent would handle the situation if the shoe was on the other foot, since parenting has been brought into it. **Disclaimer** No. I haven't got Crispy pregnant, he's just fat. Like I said, I would want her processed through the system for shock treatment more than anything then hope that the courts would be lenient as a first offence (or first that she had been caught for). The law process is there for a reason, good parenting or bad parenting. I respect the parents for doing what they have done but its hardly an advert for good parenting is it ? Good parenting in my book means that it does not even get to this stage Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:14:58 Fair enough mate.
I've always taken the point of view that a parent can only do so much. A kid or even an adult is their own person and can quite readily commit their own mistakes. That's probably a reason for going to the court. I suppose the silver lining is you got your 18 years worth of work back. Put it somewhere safe :) Title: Re: Burgled Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:17:24 Tricky one.
On the one hand, if the kid hasn't done anything like it before, there is some kind of explanation for his behaviour, he shows remorse and tries to make amends then I'd like to think I'd show some leniency - as a criminal record when you're 16 can easily be the start of a very slippery downhill slope. But on the other hand, if he'd broken in to my house, invaded my space, caused all the upset and trauma and stuff, then I'd want to see him punished to the full extent of the law. Maybe there is some middle ground you could find with the police and the parents. Some form of punishment, rehabilitation and the kid making amends along with a caution from the police rather than going down the prosecution route. Might give you the closure you want and give the kid a second chance at the same time, if you feel he deserves it. You got to make your own call, which I'm sure you will anyway. Doubt you'll find anyone on here criticising you no matter which way you go with it. Hopefully knowing who did it and getting your gear back will give you a bit of piece of mind. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:17:34 Fair enough mate. I've always taken the point of view that a parent can only do so much. A kid or even an adult is their own person and can quite readily commit their own mistakes. That's probably a reason for going to the court. I suppose the silver lining is you got your 18 years worth of work back. Put it somewhere safe :) what would you suggest that is safe ? :D Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:18:55 Nothing is failsafe, but a spare copy somewhere might not be a bad idea, if it's all stored digitally.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:19:48 Nothing is failsafe, but a spare copy somewhere might not be a bad idea, if it's all stored digitally. its all soft copy, the early stuff I had scanned Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:22:42 If it's important stick it on dvds and put it somwhere safer than a laptop bag.
Could also use internet storage. Best to have several places where it's kept. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:24:02 Fred has to do what he thinks is right. Erm, yeah. That's what I said.Title: Re: Burgled Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:28:33 Could also use internet storage. Best to have several places where it's kept. Internet storage is still pretty expensive if there is a lot of data, plus upload speeds can cause problems. I backup my backup drive once a month or so and give it to my brother, so I've got a copy of everything elsewhere. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:31:22 Depends how many documents and how large. Group stuff into zip files and setup a gmail account and send it to yourself in emails (or create draft emails). You get something like 7gb of storage for free that way.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:53:59 I've got about 20GB in an online back-up and having now used it for a while I'd have no qualms storing hundreds of gigs, it'll just take a while to do it's first backup.
I started using Mozy and it was woefully unstable and horribly painful. You have almost no control over your backup and support are total cunts. It was on an XP machine and they claimed it was my pc, some months later it comes out on their forums that there's a problem with their software and it's affecting thousands. After the amount of time I spent sending them logs and trying their poxy workarounds, that they knew all along was there software not my machine, I asked for a refund for the remainder of my period and told them to ditch the backup. I then moved to Carbonite, which has been rock solid, is definitely quicker and is a far superior service. None are particularly expensive in fact, but Mozy would be hateful even if it were free. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:55:48 get loads of microsd cards and bury them under your finger nails.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 01:13:16 Putting aside the claim from his parents that the lad in question hasn't done this before, the little cunt broke in to Freds house, presumably in the middle of the night, when he and his daughter were asleep. That action alone means he needs a big fucking wake up call. By the sound of things, he was fucking lucky the occupants were asleep and that the family dog is a lazy fucker. Kids learn right from wrong primarily from their parents. In this case, either the kid didnt listen and learn, or the parents failed to teach him. Either way, the twat deserves whats comming to him, lawfully or otherwise. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure in their own fucking house. No one grants that right, it's just a given. Someone violates your space, let alone breaks into house he/she pays the fucking price. If he/she didnt realise the possible consequences when they chose to bump the lock and walk through the door, tough fucking shit. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 01:19:46 On the subject of locks, youtube has a rake of vids that educate modern day scrotes and druggies in need of cash. Upgrade your cunting locks, people! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkkS2p7SuQ Title: Re: Burgled Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 02:44:35 Don't suppose you asked if he had my fucking bike?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Melksham Red on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 06:24:27 Putting aside the claim from his parents that the lad in question hasn't done this before, the little cunt broke in to Freds house, presumably in the middle of the night, when he and his daughter were asleep. That action alone means he needs a big fucking wake up call. By the sound of things, he was fucking lucky the occupants were asleep and that the family dog is a lazy fucker. Kids learn right from wrong primarily from their parents. In this case, either the kid didnt listen and learn, or the parents failed to teach him. Either way, the twat deserves whats comming to him, lawfully or otherwise. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure in their own fucking house. No one grants that right, it's just a given. Someone violates your space, let alone breaks into house he/she pays the fucking price. If he/she didnt realise the possible consequences when they chose to bump the lock and walk through the door, tough fucking shit. Word. No room for leniency here. The cunt needs punishing. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 07:46:29 so do i get to buy the ps3 or not?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:06:42 Don't suppose you asked if he had my fucking bike? he said he ditched it also said he would have kept it if it was a mans bike and not a lady's without a crossbar Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Luci on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:13:34 I hope you're also sending him the bill for the change of locks/repairs etc.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:21:44 fred i've read your post, and yours only and am repsonding to that.aint read anything else yet.
my view..... otherwise decent 16 year old kids dont start crime by doing creeper burglaries.they work their way up to that level of theft. dont let the parents sob stories change your mind.press charges. if he's a good kid he wont have previous will he.(i'd be bloody staggered if this is the case)and the court will give him a second chance.if he's a bad un with history then hopefully they'll come down hard on him. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Phil_S on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:32:21 Trouble is with the courts giving him, a second chance. They may give him a slap on the wrist & he may think thats cool, the worst that can happen to me is a slap on the wrists.
He needs a punishment that would make him not want to do it again. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:35:18 trouble with that phils,is you then risk prosecution for taking the law into your own hands.
let the law deal with it.the lad will keep for now. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: [email protected] on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:35:55 I'm sorry to hear about this, but I'm glad both you and your daughter are okay (despite being a bit shaken up by the experience), as you hear some real horror stories nowadays.
Personally, I don't go for this "it was his first time" bollocks. The fucker had the balls to break into youre place, he should have the balls to pay the consequences, after all he would of though he was the don if he had got way with it, and no doubt would have gone on to do it again to someone else! If the legal process deem that a slap on the wrist is enough then there isn't much more to be said, but at least you have followed it through the propper channels. If nothing else, it could act as a wake up call and as mentioned before, Mummy & Daddy can't get him out of trouble his whole life! As a curiosity, do you think the parents were trying to persuade you not to press charges (bit of intimidation)? On the plus side - you managed to get all your stuff back, and based on what you have said it sounds as if the scrote's parents could be okay which makes a change from some of the fuckwits about nowadays. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:36:56 fred i've read your post, and yours only and am repsonding to that.aint read anything else yet. my view..... otherwise decent 16 year old kids dont start crime by doing creeper burglaries.they work their way up to that level of theft. dont let the parents sob stories change your mind.press charges. if he's a good kid he wont have previous will he.(i'd be bloody staggered if this is the case)and the court will give him a second chance.if he's a bad un with history then hopefully they'll come down hard on him. No previous has shown up, but that just means he had not been caught yet Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:38:59 Trouble is with the courts giving him, a second chance. They may give him a slap on the wrist & he may think thats cool, the worst that can happen to me is a slap on the wrists. He needs a punishment that would make him not want to do it again. That's sort of what I was driving at in my previous posts. Fred had already made up his mind about going through the police and that's his prerogative. I just have a feeling that the court won't do much. If I was the parents I would send him over to do odd-jobs/chores for Fred. If Fred plays this right he could have his very own 'cider fetching from the off license' service. Or it could turn out like Gran Torino. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:40:53 No previous has shown up, but that just means he had not been caught yet like i said above.creeper burlgaries aint for novices.prosecute him fred. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:48:14 Maybe as part of his punishment he could act as a secure off-site data backup store for Fred?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:51:34 But didn't he also break into the house a few doors down? If so, then its not an isolated case. Did they get their stuff back? It is very difficult to believe this was a first offence as arriba says.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:56:05 Shop the little cunt.
All this "the courts won't do anything stuff" is, in my opinion, bollocks. Perhaps they wont do much but that's not the point is it? Going to the cop shop and to a court is likely to put the frighteners up him and hopefully it'll give him a wake up call. If he does offend again, then the court is less likely to be lenient on his second visit. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 09:58:45 But didn't he also break into the house a few doors down? If so, then its not an isolated case. Good point. Did the parents go round there with the same 'first time/good lad really' cobblers. Maybe it was his first time but at least next time he'll be known to the feds. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:01:40 It wouldn't just be a 'slap on the wrist' though, would it? Someone I know was victim to a creeper burglary earlier this year and the police caught the guys who did it. One didn't have any previous and he got a fine, community service and a 12 month probation period.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:04:29 Great news you got your stuff back Fred, I would prosecute aswell even if it helps by getting his DAN on record which could help someone else in future,At 16 he can still get his life back on track if he wishes that is.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:06:29 It wouldn't just be a 'slap on the wrist' though, would it? Someone I know was victim to a creeper burglary earlier this year and the police caught the guys who did it. One didn't have any previous and he got a fine, community service and a 12 month probation period. Was he 16? Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:11:27 That's what Fred said in an earlier post.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:25:53 no the bloke Samdy is on about.
I hope the courts do dish out a punishment like that though. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:35:46 The vast majority of burglaries are opportunistic, I.E. A door or window left open. This kid has popped the lock, more than just opportunistic.
And remember what the locksmith said about popping the lock: "It is easy to do, if you know what you are doing" Sound like this little cunt has been busy. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:51:24 But didn't he also break into the house a few doors down? If so, then its not an isolated case. Did they get their stuff back? It is very difficult to believe this was a first offence as arriba says. the lock was popped but nothing taken mate Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:53:14 Was he 16? 16 or 17, yes. I can't remember exactly. Apparently the courts don't take too kindly to creeper burglaries, especially when there are children asleep in the house too (which was the case with the person I know). Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:54:04 Was he 16? it was his first day at college yesterday bless him and yes he is 16 Title: Re: Burgled Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 10:57:09 the lock was popped but nothing taken mate Goes to show it wasn't a one off though. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:13:22 it was his first day at college yesterday bless him and yes he is 16 didn't college start last month?Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 11:40:50 didn't college start last month? Not burglary collegeTitle: Re: Burgled Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 15:01:19 Shop the little prick!
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 16:25:53 What's happened to the TEF vigilante group?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 16:33:19 What's happened to the TEF vigilante group? That would be quite a sight. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: axs on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 16:51:56 You can't see them, they are stealth ninjas.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:24:16 Glad you got all your stuff back Fred. Big up to his mum and dad
Do I shop him or do I give him a break and not screw up his life for ever? Nasty moral dilemma and I really don't know what I'd in the circumstances Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:29:58 Glad you got all your stuff back Fred. Big up to his mum and dad Do I shop him or do I give him a break and not screw up his life for ever? Nasty moral dilemma and I really don't know what I'd in the circumstances Hang in a sec. Before making such a sarky, unneeded comment. Did you stop to think for one sec that shopping him might be for his own good? Giving him a shock now might put him on the straight and narrow before it is too late. Nasty moral dilemma or simplistic narrow minded view? And I think that although Fred was expecting different opinions, he was certainly not expecting stabbing remarks. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:32:44 Fred.
How dare you be burgled. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:35:15 Hang in a sec. Before making such a sarky, unneeded comment. Did you stop to think for one sec that shopping him might be for his own good? Giving him a shock now might put him on the straight and narrow before it is too late. Nasty moral dilemma or simplistic narrow minded view? And I think that although Fred was expecting different opinions, he was certainly not expecting stabbing remarks. Think you have me a bit wrong on that one Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:37:47 Think you have me a bit wrong on that one I genuinely don't know what happened there. I somehow got you mixed up with a discussion on another forum entirely, freaky. Sorry about that. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:44:29 I genuinely don't know what happened there. I somehow got you mixed up with a discussion on another forum entirely, freaky. Sorry about that. No worries, I was just trying for a balanced point of view. Having met Fred, he's a really nice guy and I wouldn't want to be upsetting him Title: Re: Burgled Post by: STFC4LIFE on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:45:07 Shoot the fucker!!
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 18:50:02 Oh calm down, that remark wasn't bad in the slightest
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 19:03:10 I genuinely don't know what happened there. I somehow got you mixed up with a discussion on another forum entirely, freaky. Sorry about that. Another forum that was also talking about Fred getting burgled? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. What stfcinbmth said was harmless. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: nochee on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 19:14:17 Burgling houses is not the act of a first time offender. Surely it starts off with nicking from shops, cars, garden sheds etc. This is no way this kids first crime.
I think he could do with a scare whilst he is still at a young age. Hopefully it will stop the little fucker doing it again. Also if you were to let him off it, he might laugh behind your back and realise where he went wrong by getting caught and change his tactics. Being charged by the police when you are 16 is surely better than being charged by the police when you are 21+. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 19:15:15 Bleedin 'Eck. I've already apologised haven't I.
And yeah, I did get tied up with another thread on another forum, call it a Fruedian slip if you will. When I checked back again it was a different post to how I initially perceived it. Stranger things have happened at sea. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: leefer on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 19:25:58 Bleedin 'Eck. I've already apologised haven't I. And yeah, I did get tied up with another thread on another forum, call it a Fruedian slip if you will. When I checked back again it was a different post to how I initially perceived it. Stranger things have happened at sea. Dont worry Red.....STFC in Bournemouth is a laid back kind of guy.....forget it..he has. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 19:32:03 Dont worry Red.....STFC in Bournemouth is a laid back kind of guy.....forget it..he has. Yep everything fine here, thanks leefer Title: Re: Burgled Post by: corner on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 20:02:06 Putting aside the claim from his parents that the lad in question hasn't done this before, the little cunt broke in to Freds house, presumably in the middle of the night, when he and his daughter were asleep. That action alone means he needs a big fucking wake up call. By the sound of things, he was fucking lucky the occupants were asleep and that the family dog is a lazy fucker. Kids learn right from wrong primarily from their parents. In this case, either the kid didnt listen and learn, or the parents failed to teach him. Either way, the twat deserves whats comming to him, lawfully or otherwise. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure in their own fucking house. No one grants that right, it's just a given. Someone violates your space, let alone breaks into house he/she pays the fucking price. If he/she didnt realise the possible consequences when they chose to bump the lock and walk through the door, tough fucking shit. This is a real good post, he needs to be punished you eaither tell the police you want to see it thro the court, or you stalk him for 10 or so years wait till he has his own house with his daughter asleep upstairs and you break in and return the favor see how he likes it. eaither way you have to do something about him he could do it next week and hurt someone. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 20:07:42 And yep totally agree with that too corner, that's why it's such a dilemma
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pumbaa on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 20:25:24 I'm sorry, but there is no moral dilemma here at all. The lad has committed a deliberate and willful illegal act of breaking into someone's (who happens to be Fred) house which contravenes the law of the land. If he were to be 'let off' not facing up to the consequences of his actions, what is the point of having laws in the first place?
Regardless of what his parents have done (which is very honourable), he needs to face appropriate punishment. Whether ultimately the law delivers appropriate punishment is a whole different issue. Fred - I hope everything works out, and time will hopefully heal the fears that you and, more importantly, Jenna have at the moment. As I said earlier, if there is anything you need, you know where I am and please don't hesitate to ask. In addition, some good lessons here regarding physical security, protecting data etc. Sorry that Fred was the victim to help raise its profile. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 21:11:59 I think if I was in the house on my own I might be leaning towards the parental thing but as your daughter was in the house I would shoot his bollocks off, although best see what the courts do first.
You could always "find" a knife in your house, say on the floor, he'd be up for aggravated burglary then whilst under occupation which is big stuff. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 21:59:16 no dilema to be had.if grassing him to the old bill fucks his life up then tough shit(not that it will anyway)
epic fail by bangcock i must add. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:08:13 I have decided to embrace my epic fail. It will be theraputic (fuck the spelling)
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Miss Angry on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:16:49 If it had been my son i would have done the exact same thing as his parents have done - although i would also encourage you to press charges. I love my boy and would stand by him but lessons need to be learned and saying sorry isnt gonna cut it.
Something also tells me the lad in question might not be a pro given that he took no cables n stuff and left blood and prints all over the place. Peaple can go through our legal sytem and come out on the right side of the law, they dont all turn bad. I disagree with one of your coments though Fred... You can be the best parent in the world and your child still come off the rails, but it is our job to find out as early as possible, put them back on the straight and narrow and keep them there, it's never gonna be a breeze. Having said that at 16yrs Gianluca wouldnt be out of the house past 10pm! Title: Re: Burgled Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:25:51 Horrible situation, Fred. Full of admiration with how you're dealing with such a head fuck.
Personally I'd shop him, as you'd be doing him a favour... Whether it's a fine, caution, suspended sentence, whatever, it will incentivise the little turd to clean up his act. I guess it's a bit of a "be cruel to be kind" situation, and by shopping him you might just be doing him a massive favour in the long run. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:37:19 Hang in a sec. Before making such a sarky, unneeded comment. Did you stop to think for one sec that shopping him might be for his own good? Giving him a shock now might put him on the straight and narrow before it is too late. Nasty moral dilemma or simplistic narrow minded view? And I think that although Fred was expecting different opinions, he was certainly not expecting stabbing remarks. Even after the edit that is an epic fail mate :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: stfcinbmth is a top man and even if it did come out wrong (which it didnt) there would have been nothing meant in it. Get back to the Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:50:26 Just to let you all know that after some serious soul searching this is what we have decided to do, I have spoken to the police and its going to go like this ;
He will be processed and go through the system and on to youth court. I will write a letter to the court stating that I respect his Mum, Dad and Step Dad's actions and to me, it is testament that he comes from a stand up kind of family. I will state that whilst I want (and need) some form of closure and for this to come to a conclusion, I also do not want some pissed up stupid mistake to affect his life for ever and I would ask the court to bear that in mind when sentencing. I hope that then that will be the end of it and that myself and Jenna can try and resume our lives and that he has learned a valuable lesson. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life and people have given me second chances. Its now my turn to do the same. Lets hope all concerned can draw a line underneath it Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 22:54:05 Sounds reasonable to me.
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:05:35 So you're not going to shit in his mouth then?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:07:38 So you're not going to shit in his mouth then? not this week Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:07:55 i think you're being too soft fred.
that says alot about you being a decent human being though Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:30:47 i think you're being too soft fred. that says alot about you being a decent human being though maybe so Arriba but I need it done and dusted so I can put it to bed psychologically so to speak. I need to get back to work and get on with things. Like I said, I have made many mistakes in my life and people have given me plenty of second chances which eventually I grabbed. I would be a massive hypocrite to myself if I didn't do the same Title: Re: Burgled Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:40:24 Just to let you all know that after some serious soul searching this is what we have decided to do, I have spoken to the police and its going to go like this ; Sounds very reasonable to me Fred. As others have said, hopefully he'll get the kick up the backside he needs and sort himself out.He will be processed and go through the system and on to youth court. I will write a letter to the court stating that I respect his Mum, Dad and Step Dad's actions and to me, it is testament that he comes from a stand up kind of family. I will state that whilst I want (and need) some form of closure and for this to come to a conclusion, I also do not want some pissed up stupid mistake to affect his life for ever and I would ask the court to bear that in mind when sentencing. I hope that then that will be the end of it and that myself and Jenna can try and resume our lives and that he has learned a valuable lesson. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life and people have given me second chances. Its now my turn to do the same. Lets hope all concerned can draw a line underneath it Title: Re: Burgled Post by: 4D on Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 23:52:05 Haven't read all this but did he give a reason for it? I think the authorities have gone too soft on crime in the last 20 years or so, hence the reason we see some pretty despicable crimes and soft sentences, where's the justice for the victims?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 09:24:48 Does this mean I've got to find something else to do with this huge bucket of tar and feathers I've collected? Bah!
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: dporter on Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:31:11 Sorry to throw a random thought in but were there only the lad's prints in your house? Could it be possible that his Dad or stepdad were with the lad. He screwed up by cutting himself and leaving the blood so they figured if they brought your stuff back they could avoid getting the police involved and guilt tripping you because he's a young lad etc. Also, with him having no record they could be banking on him not getting a tough punishment and them getting away with it. Could explain how a young lad got involved?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 13:13:33 Do you think he reads this and was getting a bit scared by the prospect of a posse of swindon supporting computer nerds hunting him down and killing him by boring him to death with 80% bollocks about jailbreaking phones and the EDL?
Title: Re: Burgled Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 13:13:49 Does this mean I've got to find something else to do with this huge bucket of tar and feathers I've collected? Bah! Seems like it. I've turned my pitchfork back to yellow alert. Title: Re: Burgled Post by: Anteater on Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 14:43:47 Fair play regarding your decision and your reasoning for it.
I have had the pleasure of being robbed three times, once at home (when me and the missus were asleep upstairs) and twice at work. The one at home particularly put the wind up me and the superior half so can't begin to think how you felt with your daughter being involved. I must admit each time I wanted to batter the twat who was responsible, but probably thought a bit differently about it after. I have always and still do keep a nice little weapon for protecting my missus, myself and property close to hand which in the worst circumstances will either get me or an intruder in deep shit, however I'm prepared to take that risk, more so since being a 'victim'. Although the kids parents were maybe fair in bringing him around I can't help wondering why they didn't just take the kid to the Babylon and let them make the first moves and not leave you with any moral dilemma. Good luck with however it works out (hopefully with the little tit learning a valuable lesson). |