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« Reply #60 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:33:32 » |
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Not for any of us to say what Fred should or should not do. It's his piece of mind (and probably more importantly Jenna's) that's been violated, which I guess is way more important than the stuff. But I'd take my hat off to the parents - that takes real guts and shows the lad a proper example. If more parents acted like they did, we'd have a lot less problems
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« Reply #61 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:33:43 » |
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The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew
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« Reply #62 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:36:58 » |
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The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew
They may surprise us all and chop his hands off
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« Reply #63 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:38:37 » |
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They may surprise us all and chop his hands off
Sharia law - Crispy will be pleased.
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« Reply #64 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:39:51 » |
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With the greatest of respect, until it has happened to you and quite literally your whole life is turned upside down then you are trying to reason from a weak position.
Come back and give advice when your Daughter says she does not want to come round to see you anymore.
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« Reply #65 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:41:42 » |
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Not for any of us to say what Fred should or should not do. Good evening. Welcome to the Internet. Have you been here before?  It's his piece of mind (and probably more importantly Jenna's) that's been violated, which I guess is way more important than the stuff. But I'd take my hat off to the parents - that takes real guts and shows the lad a proper example. If more parents acted like they did, we'd have a lot less problems.
This depends. Plenty of nasty pieces of work have parents who only ever wanted the best for their kids. Whilst it's sad when 16/17 year olds have brushes with the justice system, actions have consequences, no matter how admirable the parents. Fred has to do what he thinks is right.
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« Reply #66 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:42:24 » |
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No way in hell would I let him get away with it. How many times may he have done this to others? Being 16 is irrelevant, 10 year olds know not to do this. Hopefully it will knock some sense into him. If not, then he's a cock and deserves whatever the life he chooses.
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« Reply #67 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:45:05 » |
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My supervisor at work has a younger brother who is a criminal and his parents/family have disowned him.
He lingers outside the store from time to time, he has HMP tattooed on his forehead (no joke).
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« Reply #68 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:46:48 » |
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The court will do fuck all. 16 year old, first offence. Just prepare to be disappointed as they will probably just give him a curfew
Thats up to the courts Si He needs to be processed through the system to give him the fright of his fucking life at the least
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« Reply #69 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:52:19 » |
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Do what you like Fred, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. But put it on the internet and people will put their two pence worth into the pot.
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« Reply #70 on: Monday, October 11, 2010, 23:55:21 » |
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Do what you like Fred, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. But put it on the internet and people will put their two pence worth into the pot.
wasnt expecting anything else Si I posted what happened so I thought it right that I posted what the conclusion was
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« Reply #71 on: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:03:11 » |
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Well let us know what happens next.
Maybe an inappropriate time/place, but say if Jenna did this how would you deal with it? I'm not saying she would do that, but I'm just interested how a parent would handle the situation if the shoe was on the other foot, since parenting has been brought into it.
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No. I haven't got Crispy pregnant, he's just fat.
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« Reply #72 on: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:09:36 » |
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Well let us know what happens next.
Maybe an inappropriate time/place, but say if Jenna did this how would you deal with it? I'm not saying she would do that, but I'm just interested how a parent would handle the situation if the shoe was on the other foot, since parenting has been brought into it.
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No. I haven't got Crispy pregnant, he's just fat.
Like I said, I would want her processed through the system for shock treatment more than anything then hope that the courts would be lenient as a first offence (or first that she had been caught for). The law process is there for a reason, good parenting or bad parenting. I respect the parents for doing what they have done but its hardly an advert for good parenting is it ? Good parenting in my book means that it does not even get to this stage
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« Reply #73 on: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:14:58 » |
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Fair enough mate. I've always taken the point of view that a parent can only do so much. A kid or even an adult is their own person and can quite readily commit their own mistakes. That's probably a reason for going to the court. I suppose the silver lining is you got your 18 years worth of work back. Put it somewhere safe 
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« Reply #74 on: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 00:17:24 » |
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Tricky one.
On the one hand, if the kid hasn't done anything like it before, there is some kind of explanation for his behaviour, he shows remorse and tries to make amends then I'd like to think I'd show some leniency - as a criminal record when you're 16 can easily be the start of a very slippery downhill slope. But on the other hand, if he'd broken in to my house, invaded my space, caused all the upset and trauma and stuff, then I'd want to see him punished to the full extent of the law.
Maybe there is some middle ground you could find with the police and the parents. Some form of punishment, rehabilitation and the kid making amends along with a caution from the police rather than going down the prosecution route. Might give you the closure you want and give the kid a second chance at the same time, if you feel he deserves it.
You got to make your own call, which I'm sure you will anyway. Doubt you'll find anyone on here criticising you no matter which way you go with it. Hopefully knowing who did it and getting your gear back will give you a bit of piece of mind.
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