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Give him the season - 19 (16.8%)
Time for a change - 94 (83.2%)
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« Reply #180 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 15:58:59 »

Ferguson won the cup winners cup, super, cup, scottish prem 3 times, scottish fa cup 4 times, and the league cup- all with Aberdeen before he was seemingly under pressure at Man Utd

Despite his record in Scotland, there was a real pressure in the ground that night for him to be fired.
Yeah thats comical.

surely the happiest of happy clappers wanted Sheridan gone.
I can barely remember Sheridan's time. I do recall that he didn't get rid of Trollope because that had already happened.
Was 1996 the last year you attended?  Smiley
No.
I'll give more detail when i've got time, but people quoting our league position in accusations of "knee-jerk", trial by social media thinking, is really irking me.

Based on form since November (8 league games), we are 20th in the table. Thats being generous and not counting the FA cup loss at Stockport.
Take the season as a whole and we're 6th. More relevant.


As I'm based in Manchester, I generally do games north of Walsall but, "as I don't live abroad". I only watch the ifollow games that are on general view. I would be the last to pretend that some performances have been far from good. Maybe more signings would improve things but we don't know who is being considered. I do know that the key players last season were, by necessity, on one year contracts and they would have left anyway. Hopefully longer contacts result in a more settled side year on year.


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« Reply #181 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 16:15:07 »

As I'm based in Manchester, I generally do games north of Walsall but, "as I don't live abroad". I only watch the ifollow games that are on general view. I would be the last to pretend that some performances have been far from good.

Credit to you, you do as much as is reasonable for a sane person.

Do you think it gives you a different perspective on things, and a sense of detachment from the emotional side? 

Away form has been as good as home form. But you expect it to be tougher on the road. So I wonder if having less frustrated and moaning people around coupled with a slightly less frequent watch makes it different for you.

Probably more likely to just be different personality to us moaners.
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As an aside, and I do feel guilty, but I've taken a Newcastle fan with me to a few games this season. He's actually enjoyed it (he says) but the verdict was as we all know "look good up to final third".

He still wants to go though.
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« Reply #182 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 16:27:34 »

Take the season as a whole and we're 6th. More relevant.



spacings a bit off, but on PPG were 10th and on course to miss out on the playoffs.

   
   P   W   D   L   F   A   +/-   Pts
1   Leyton Orient   24   66.70%   20.80%   12.50%   1.46   0.54   0.92   2.21
2   Stevenage   24   62.50%   25.00%   12.50%   1.46   0.71   0.75   2.12
3   Northampton Town   24   54.20%   29.20%   16.70%   1.62   1   0.62   1.92
4   Bradford City   23   47.80%   26.10%   26.10%   1.3   1   0.3   1.7
5   Carlisle United   24   41.70%   37.50%   20.80%   1.54   1.04   0.5   1.62
6   Mansfield Town   24   45.80%   20.80%   33.30%   1.38   1.29   0.08   1.58
7   Walsall   23   43.50%   26.10%   30.40%   1.26   0.91   0.35   1.57
8   Doncaster Rovers   24   45.80%   16.70%   37.50%   1.25   1.42   -0.17   1.54
9   Salford City   23   43.50%   21.70%   34.80%   1.3   1   0.3   1.52
10   Swindon Town   25   40.00%   32.00%   28.00%   1.12   1   0.12   1.52
11   Barrow   24   45.80%   12.50%   41.70%   1.21   1.17   0.04   1.5
12   Stockport County   23   43.50%   17.40%   39.10%   1.43   1   0.43   1.48
13   AFC Wimbledon   24   37.50%   29.20%   33.30%   1.21   1.17   0.04   1.42
14   Sutton United   25   40.00%   20.00%   40.00%   1   1.24   -0.24   1.4
15   Tranmere Rovers   24   37.50%   25.00%   37.50%   1.04   0.83   0.21   1.38
16   Grimsby Town   23   34.80%   26.10%   39.10%   1.13   1.17   -0.04   1.3
17   Crewe Alexandra   22   31.80%   31.80%   36.40%   0.86   1.23   -0.36   1.27
18   Newport County   24   25.00%   29.20%   45.80%   0.96   1.12   -0.17   1.04
19   Harrogate Town   23   26.10%   21.70%   52.20%   1.3   1.57   -0.26   1
20   Crawley Town   24   20.80%   29.20%   50.00%   1.08   1.62   -0.54   0.92
21   Colchester United   24   20.80%   20.80%   58.30%   0.88   1.29   -0.42   0.83
22   Hartlepool United   24   16.70%   29.20%   54.20%   1   1.88   -0.88   0.79
23   Rochdale   23   17.40%   17.40%   65.20%   0.78   1.52   -0.74   0.7
24   Gillingham   23   8.70%   34.80%   56.50%   0.3   1.22   -0.91   0.61
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« Reply #183 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 16:58:03 »

Credit to you, you do as much as is reasonable for a sane person.

Do you think it gives you a different perspective on things, and a sense of detachment from the emotional side?  

Away form has been as good as home form. But you expect it to be tougher on the road. So I wonder if having less frustrated and moaning people around coupled with a slightly less frequent watch makes it different for you.

Probably more likely to just be different personality to us moaners.
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As an aside, and I do feel guilty, but I've taken a Newcastle fan with me to a few games this season. He's actually enjoyed it (he says) but the verdict was as we all know "look good up to final third".

He still wants to go though.

To be honest, when I lived in Wiltshire I was probably more emotionally involved. However, the two-division relegation under Ardilles made me realise that things I thought were important were totally out of my control so I stopped being as involved.

In truth, the people I sit with at away games are those who go to hundreds/thousands of games and I view the matches as a social thing. I feel much happier when we win though!
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« Reply #184 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 18:21:52 »

This is really simple, the same limp attacking performances since Gillingham away, along with the same post-match rhetoric, has poisoned the season so far.  Whoever is responsible for coaching the attacking players has not only failed to show any new ideas but has insulted the fans' intelligence.  Signing a former Premier League top scorer is going to cause conflict and change.  If results and performances don't immediately improve, heads are going to roll.  Clem has thrown down the gauntlet with failure not to gain promotion not being any option.    
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« Reply #185 on: Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 23:17:49 »

I feel I must say how impressed I've been with the last 2 pages (12,13) of this thread !

It's been a good mannered, well reasoned, insightful debate and has been a joy to read !

Wot's happened to the 25 % bollox !?   Cheesy
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« Reply #186 on: Thursday, January 5, 2023, 09:41:32 »

SFP
Please explain ?
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