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« Reply #435 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:03:00 »

Agree not signing any full backs seems like an error on our part.
I assume you’d have to go Hutton at RB & Devine or Iandolo at LB.

That then leaves us with Shade as the only winger so we couldn’t really go 442.
Would have to be Shade, Tomi & McKirdy as a front three
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« Reply #436 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:04:30 »

Plus, I’m not sure L2 midfielders who aren’t even tearing L2 apart should be considered viable options for a World Cup!

I get it’s Wales but still…
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« Reply #437 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:08:07 »

Agree not signing any full backs seems like an error on our part.
I assume you’d have to go Hutton at RB & Devine or Iandolo at LB.

But then if we’re saying the 2 wing backs can’t defend, and Devine seems to have the same defensive deficiencies then we’d effectively only have 2 defensive played on the pitch in the centre backs which is even more of a recipe for disaster.

It was said when he was appointed that Lindsey will always play with a back 3, one bit of credit Garner gets is he did change things up but I don’t think we have the personnel to do that this season it seems.
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« Reply #438 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:16:37 »

Maybe a flaw in choosing players for league 2 based on stats & data only rather than having the abality to play in different positions when needed.
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« Reply #439 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:44:11 »

Plus, I’m not sure L2 midfielders who aren’t even tearing L2 apart should be considered viable options for a World Cup!

I get it’s Wales but still…

I’m assuming that this is a reference to JW (haven’t read back 😁), maybe need to hold the horses a bit. The squad hasn’t been announced yet.
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« Reply #440 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:56:17 »

Maybe a flaw in choosing players for league 2 based on stats & data only rather than having the abality to play in different positions when needed.

As has been said numerous times, they aren’t being signed on stats and data only.
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« Reply #441 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 15:58:50 »

As has been said numerous times, they aren’t being signed on stats and data only.

It's a key factor which has also been said a numerous times.
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« Reply #442 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:00:03 »

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Maybe a flaw in choosing players for league 2 based on stats & data only rather than having the abality to play in different positions when needed.

I don't think that's true.

firstly someone decides what type of player we want, and if versatility isn't a valid option the stats system is broken before we've begun.

second, I'm not sure how many players were recruited using DDR and how many were already on the list.
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« Reply #443 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:01:23 »

I’m assuming that this is a reference to JW (haven’t read back 😁), maybe need to hold the horses a bit. The squad hasn’t been announced yet.

Basically two sides of the argument

Is JW going to bust a gut to play well to make Wales World Cup squad
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Is JW going to play very tentatively in order to not miss the World Cup through injury


My point being you’d think a international midfielder probably going to a World Cup should look head and shoulders above everyone else in L2 but don’t think JW ever really has…

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« Reply #444 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:03:16 »

I don't think that's true.

firstly someone decides what type of player we want, and if versatility isn't a valid option the stats system is broken before we've begun.

second, I'm not sure how many players were recruited using DDR and how many were already on the list.

I did say maybe not factual and it was Sandro who has been brought in and made reference in saying players will be chosen based on DDR. Like you say nobody is really sure so it's all guesswork.
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« Reply #445 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:15:23 »

It's a key factor which has also been said a numerous times.

Yes, but it’s not only based on that, which is what you said.
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« Reply #446 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:21:55 »

Yes, but it’s not only based on that, which is what you said.

If only we knew which players were chosen using that method!
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« Reply #447 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:23:20 »

he said players will be identified by DDR and passed to the manager .

I'm just saying if the manager wants a left back that can also play (e.g) wing back then that's what goes into the DDR search
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« Reply #448 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:26:39 »

he said players will be identified by DDR and passed to the manager .

I'm just saying if the manager wants a left back that can also play (e.g) wing back then that's what goes into the DDR search

So who takes the blame if they can't addapt to different systems manager or player🤔
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« Reply #449 on: Sunday, July 31, 2022, 16:33:09 »

Surely almost all EFL clubs are using data as part of their recruitment process to some extent?

Listening to Lindsey’s BBC Wilts phone-in it certainly didn’t seem like Billy Beane’s Moneyball.
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