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« Reply #3120 on: Monday, April 29, 2024, 12:43:33 » |
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It is the players call if he is coming to the end of his contract and knows of interest from other teams that agree with his assessment though.
No it is. Players shouldn’t be dictating to managers where they will or won’t play. |
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« Reply #3121 on: Monday, April 29, 2024, 12:48:56 » |
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I’m not gunnings biggest fan but you play where you’re told you’re playing ffs. Whether he’s a nice bloke or not that’s not on. On flip side he just have just been dropped if he refused
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« Reply #3122 on: Monday, April 29, 2024, 12:55:33 » |
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Yeah I don't think a player/players should dictate to the manager where they want to play. At the end of the day, you are paid to do what the boss says. Whilst I understand the want to play in a preferred position, to dictate that and effectively undermine your manager isn't good.
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise,
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« Reply #3124 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 06:04:46 » |
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No it is.
Players shouldn’t be dictating to managers where they will or won’t play.
Agree, but then again, there are a lot of things players shouldn't be doing but do, and managers also.. |
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« Reply #3125 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 08:46:41 » |
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No it is.
Players shouldn’t be dictating to managers where they will or won’t play.
In most cases I'd agree, but under these circumstances you've got a senior player, one of the most experienced in the squad and a rookie manager with zero experience managing a football team. Gunning should have been leaning on his senior players to help him out but it sounds more like it was his way or the high way. Not surprising he didn't get the respect from the players he might have wanted and that could well have cost him the job. |
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« Reply #3126 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 09:08:46 » |
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In most cases I'd agree, but under these circumstances you've got a senior player, one of the most experienced in the squad and a rookie manager with zero experience managing a football team. Gunning should have been leaning on his senior players to help him out but it sounds more like it was his way or the high way. Not surprising he didn't get the respect from the players he might have wanted and that could well have cost him the job.
Not up for debate. Players don’t dictate to the manager. You mention experience but Gav has over 2.5x more professional league games under his belt than FBT has at this point of his career. Sure, Gav might have been a complete ass about it. It might have been a horrible decision but that’s his decision to make… |
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« Reply #3127 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 09:46:21 » |
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Not up for debate.
Players don’t dictate to the manager.
You mention experience but Gav has over 2.5x more professional league games under his belt than FBT has at this point of his career.
Sure, Gav might have been a complete ass about it. It might have been a horrible decision but that’s his decision to make…
No one is saying it's right, but it happened, and he carried on playing the season out with us, so it is up for debate. In a club where the rules are enforced and followed, and the manager is given adequate tools to be able to enforce a punishment, there is no debate - in the world of Swindon town there a very few rules and very limited means in which to enforce those rules. Some of that sits with GG's lack of experience, some of that sits with the hierachy at the club. It's pretty hard to enforce rules when the rules are regularly being broken at all levels and the club is acting like the tory party. Stripping a player of the vice captaincy when he is aready working on his next move, but then being in a position where you need to pick him to play every week, doesn't exactly scream "not up for debate" |
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« Reply #3128 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 14:49:27 » |
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So do we think they’re waiting until Clem is out of the country to publish the retained list?
Or still trying to persuade McGurk & Glatzel to stay?
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« Reply #3129 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 15:42:33 » |
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They could still release the list and mark them as offered deals
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« Reply #3130 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 15:43:00 » |
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They could still release the list and mark them as offered deals
I think Rob Hunt is still technically in negotiations... |
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« Reply #3131 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 15:54:52 » |
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I think Rob Hunt is still technically in negotiations...
Remember when they said we bettered Charltons offer for Jack Payne? Yeah of course they did.. |
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« Reply #3132 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 16:02:58 » |
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Remember when they said we bettered Charltons offer for Jack Payne?
Yeah of course they did..
TBF I thought they said Payne was offered the best terms they had offered to anyone. I thought it was Payne that said he took less to go to Charlton. Might be wrong though |
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« Reply #3133 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 16:30:13 » |
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Maybe waiting until the final U18 game is done today but probably unlikely
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« Reply #3134 on: Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 19:05:06 » |
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As possibly the only person on here who follows Swindon and Leyton Orient, I’ve heard Drinan signed in Jan for 2.5 years. |
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