The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
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« Reply #375 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 10:25:29 » |
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I wasn’t comparing them to Wagner. Just pointing out how huge they are compared by numbers. As on here, some think of them as jolly fellows stood outside supermarkets.
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #376 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 10:44:59 » |
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Be interesting what happens in Ukraine if Wagner prevail, given it’s head out out a statement the other day saying the pretence for the invasion was a lie and there were no plans by Ukraine to invade
Either way it’s a period of opportunity for them to regain ground now, surely
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Mooneyraker
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« Reply #377 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 10:47:03 » |
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This is one of those rare occasions where I can say “I have a degree in this” and wrote my dissertation on the private military industry. Yes G4S did a little of that (over half a decade ago) but that 500,000 number is largely made up of the Sainsburys security guards and office employees. I also used to work for one of the other companies on your list!
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Non PC straight talking tory Brexit voter on this
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« Reply #378 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 10:48:57 » |
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Well it’s certainly looking like an interesting situation is developing. I wonder who the west would back? Neither would be my guess but make no mistake they’re watching like hawks.
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« Reply #379 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 10:55:11 » |
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No doubt another reason for food & energy prices to soar😡
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« Reply #380 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 11:01:48 » |
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Well it’s certainly looking like an interesting situation is developing. I wonder who the west would back? Neither would be my guess but make no mistake they’re watching like hawks.
Prigozhin I expect. He’s pretty much saying the Ukraine war is based on bullshit, which sits well with the West’s (correct) narrative
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« Reply #381 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 11:22:16 » |
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Here’s a startling fact when it comes to private ‘security’ groups.
Top private military contractors (number of employees):
🇬🇧 G4S: 533,000 🇺🇸 Alliedbarton: 220,000 🇷🇺 Wagner Group: 50,000+ 🇺🇸 KBR: 28,000 🇺🇸 Academi: 21,000 🇺🇸 CACI International: 20,000 🇺🇸 DYNCORP: 14,000 🇬🇧 Control risks: 3,000
Leave my employer out of this. Or I will send the boys round!
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« Reply #382 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 11:50:14 » |
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bit skeptical about the Wagner events, they've been moaning to get their own way for ages.
But who knows.
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« Reply #383 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:37:20 » |
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Believe me, neither should be supported. What happens inside Russia, militarily, is Russia's business; but neither Putin nor Prighozin will hesitate to use whatever force is necessary to achieve their aims. Putin in particular will use tactical/battlefield nuclear weapons if or when it suits him..
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Qunk
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« Reply #384 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:39:14 » |
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bit skeptical about the Wagner events, they've been moaning to get their own way for ages.
But who knows.
I feel that this is big. The head of Wagner is supposed to be a Putin henchman. If he’s lost him, which he pretty clearly has, Putin will panic regarding who he can trust, if he wasn’t before this happened. I feel the clock is ticking
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Qunk
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« Reply #385 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:39:53 » |
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Believe me, neither should be supported. What happens inside Russia, militarily, is Russia's business; but neither Putin nor Prighozin will hesitate to use whatever force is necessary to achieve their aims. Putin in particular will use tactical/battlefield nuclear weapons if or when it suits him..
Neither will use nukes. It’s not an option Putin, as powerful as he is, can’t just press a button and launch a nuclear weapon. There are multiple channels that he would have to go through, if he even dared to try, and at some point he’d meet defining resistance
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« Reply #386 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:45:14 » |
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This is one of those rare occasions where I can say “I have a degree in this” and wrote my dissertation on the private military industry. Yes G4S did a little of that (over half a decade ago) but that 500,000 number is largely made up of the Sainsburys security guards and office employees.
I also used to work for one of the other companies on your list!
Wagner? 
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« Reply #387 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12:55:27 » |
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Wagner?  Mooneyraker?
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I didn't lose myself in the crowd.
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Mooneyraker
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« Reply #388 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 13:32:44 » |
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Mooneyraker?
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The Grim Reaper
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« Reply #389 on: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 13:34:47 » |
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Putin’s 3 day special operation becomes more farcical each passing day.
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