New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[ThreeDrawsMentality]

Think talk of a physical points deduction is quite far-fetched based upon the current crimes committed that we are aware of. Any deduction would likely be suspended. Think that will only change if there is something much sinister brewing that we are unaware of but EFL are. Given the EFL's recent track record with likes of Reading and Wigan, takes a lot for them to give a points deduction that isn't suspended.

[4D]

It's tiring being a town fan. One fucking thing after another.

[joeydubya]

If the Peterborough case is a barometer, a points deduction could likely be suspended and minimal

[@MacPhlea]

This will not be the only EFL charge.....

There will probably be some points deductions..


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When we were ‘flying high’ at the start of the season I remember Flynn saying something like ‘it’s nice to get the points in the bag early because it will help later when they are not there…’ never a truer word spoken…

[Nemo]

The worry I *think* isn't that this penalty wouldn't be suspended, but that we wouldn't do something else to trigger it in the next few months...

[ThreeDrawsMentality]

The worry I *think* isn't that this penalty wouldn't be suspended, but that we wouldn't do something else to trigger it in the next few months...

This I absolutely get. Especially with the cashflow issues.

[Bob's Orange]

Think talk of a physical points deduction is quite far-fetched based upon the current crimes committed that we are aware of. Any deduction would likely be suspended. Think that will only change if there is something much sinister brewing that we are unaware of but EFL are. Given the EFL's recent track record with likes of Reading and Wigan, takes a lot for them to give a points deduction that isn't suspended.

As Cowley frustratingly alludes to, (without giving any details) it would appear that further charges to infringements are 'in the post'. Quite what these are for are anyone's guess at the moment. The transfer of shares was known and admitted to by Clem and so yesterday's charge wasn't exactly a huge surprise.

I personally have no clue about things, but the rumour and rumblings of punishments continues. I suspect the rollercoaster ride is only just leaving the ticket booth area.

We had a suspended points penalty for late payment of wages, of which the suspension has now lapsed. Does that mean that any new infringement (I assume for late payment of wages) could mean we would get another points suspension or would it be more likely to be an actual penalty given we've fallen foul before? (even though the previous suspension period has finished now)

[No Longer Posh Red]

it was more than incompetence. For whatever reason Clem decided to withhold the information on purpose.

actually I suppose you mean Clems incompetence in thinking withholding it didn't matter. So I guess you are right

But they didn’t withhold the information, they informed companies house.

The problem appears to be that nobody in the organisation knows how to run a football club and therefore neglected to tell the EFL.

I’m assuming that Clem got the notification done through Axis company admin, as even Rob Angus (who would have been CEO at the time) didn’t know about it.

[ThreeDrawsMentality]

As Cowley frustratingly alludes to, (without giving any details) it would appear that further charges to infringements are 'in the post'. Quite what these are for are anyone's guess at the moment. The transfer of shares was known and admitted to by Clem and so yesterday's charge wasn't exactly a huge surprise.

I personally have no clue about things, but the rumour and rumblings of punishments continues. I suspect the rollercoaster ride is only just leaving the ticket booth area.

We had a suspended points penalty for late payment of wages, of which the suspension has now lapsed. Does that mean that any new infringement (I assume for late payment of wages) could mean we would get another points suspension or would it be more likely to be an actual penalty given we've fallen foul before? (even though the previous suspension period has finished now)

Ah yes. Further charges I don't doubt at all and would certainly snowball the penalties/deductions.

[The Million Pound Man]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58589077

Fortunately the timing doesn't overlap with the last suspended points deduction.

Cant imagine EFL will look favorably on us though... 1 months missed wages in the near future and we could be in big trouble.

[Batch]

<secretary bird photo>

Aaah, that's brightened my day. it reminds me of the time I was stood in a garden flapping my arms wildly and hollering to discourage (train) a juvenile not to try and "fly" over the 6ft fence.

[Batch]

But they didn’t withhold the information, they informed companies house.

The problem appears to be that nobody in the organisation knows how to run a football club and therefore neglected to tell the EFL.

Clem absolutely withheld the information from the EFL and seemingly his own CEO, and the Trust, and the Eady Trust. Shares transferred September 2022. Companies house published August 2023. nearly a whole year.

If the CEO doesn't know, I doubt the acting secretary did. The rules are *VERY* clear in the EFL regulations. Even I understood them.

This is purely self inflicted.

[Batch]

As Cowley frustratingly alludes to, (without giving any details) it would appear that further charges to infringements are 'in the post'.

Oh good.

This charge alone isn't a panic stations charge IMO.

Care to speculate what is coming. Got to be Power/Ownership related if anything right?

[STFC_Manc]

This will not be the only EFL charge.....

There will probably be some points deductions..

What else is to come then?

[Mooneyraker]

I wonder what ability there is to bin the club as the leaseholder on the ground...

If they didn't pay the rent for example.

Did the Trust ever publish the contract/deal? If not, why not?