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« Reply #9300 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:24:21 »

I'm not sure these lot will clear out the club until we've been totally bled dry and are non league.

Already those rumours of AZ Alkmaar owners interested but then pulling out. Probably couldn't get rid of our infestation problem.
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« Reply #9301 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:43:18 »

I wonder if Clem sees signing Kemp as some sort of panacea? If so he is much mistaken. If he rips the guts out of the team, Kemp will be rendered useless anyway. And lets be honest, if we do sign him, I'm sure we sell at the end of the season.
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« Reply #9302 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:44:32 »

If we didn't pay players on time like rumoured isn't that a 3 or a 6 for first offense?

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that players were paid on time and other staff not? Remember the LS pod guys digging in to the club about that, but it would quash the threat of a points deduction for this particular offence.
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« Reply #9303 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:51:03 »

I wonder if Clem sees signing Kemp as some sort of panacea? If so he is much mistaken. If he rips the guts out of the team, Kemp will be rendered useless anyway. And lets be honest, if we do sign him, I'm sure we sell at the end of the season.

Who knows, but if Kemp was signed on a longer contract, then it would give some positive indicators. Willing to invest in selllable assets. You would also think if Kemp is prepared to sign here permanently he has some positive indications about th future?

No way he signs to be sold in the summer, when he can wait for the summer and get a bigger pay day anyway.

I'm not saying signing Kemp ends all problems, but it would be a positive indicator.
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« Reply #9304 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:51:14 »


Archie Matthews went from us to Birmingham and Swansea.

Released as well wasn't he? So imagine we got nothing.
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« Reply #9305 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:53:27 »

Who knows, but if Kemp was signed on a longer contract, then it would give some positive indicators. Willing to invest in selllable assets. You would also think if Kemp is prepared to sign here permanently he has some positive indications about th future?

No way he signs to be sold in the summer, when he can wait for the summer and get a bigger pay day anyway.

I'm not saying signing Kemp ends all problems, but it would be a positive indicator.

The panacea will be, like Umerah in August, *trying* to buy Kemp... and missing out But we tried!

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« Reply #9306 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 11:57:58 »

The panacea will be, like Umerah in August, *trying* to buy Kemp... and missing out But we tried!



Obviously my comments are based on it happening. We don't believe any of this tried bullshit.
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« Reply #9307 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 12:10:17 »

I wonder if Clem sees signing Kemp as some sort of panacea? If so he is much mistaken. If he rips the guts out of the team, Kemp will be rendered useless anyway. And lets be honest, if we do sign him, I'm sure we sell at the end of the season.

Do you really think we'll be able to sign Kemp? We have zero chance.
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« Reply #9308 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 12:21:15 »

Do you really think we'll be able to sign Kemp? We have zero chance.

No but Clem might.
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« Reply #9309 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 12:40:15 »

What did the forward plan say about the academy btw? Lie after lie
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« Reply #9310 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 12:42:38 »

That's correct as my i know someone who used to be involved. The minute a youth team player makes an official 1st team appearance their fee is set at £250k as opposed to a tribunal & peanuts.

If this is true and you got wind of a bigger club being interested wouldn't you play them (even for a few mins) to make sure you got paid something.

As others have said we've lost youngsters to bigger teams for years and more often than not got next to fuck all for them.
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« Reply #9311 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 13:14:17 »

What did the forward plan say about the academy btw? Lie after lie

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I fairness we don't know how much of this is true, if it's normal business or is a specific player is pushing for a move or what
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« Reply #9312 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 13:18:58 »

If this is true and you got wind of a bigger club being interested wouldn't you play them (even for a few mins) to make sure you got paid something.

As others have said we've lost youngsters to bigger teams for years and more often than not got next to fuck all for them.

True - i believe it was bought in to protect clubs who have lost youth teams players for crap money.
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« Reply #9313 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 14:21:48 »

True - i believe it was bought in to protect clubs who have lost youth teams players for crap money.

I can't see any mention of the £250k for making a first team appearence in the EPPP document, unless I have missed this the last few pages on the below document.

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2022/07/18/3fceeddc-01d1-4f99-a01c-247fed27682d/Handbook_2022-23_PL-Youth-Development-Rules.pdf
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« Reply #9314 on: Wednesday, December 13, 2023, 14:29:36 »

I can't see any mention of the £250k for making a first team appearence in the EPPP document, unless I have missed this the last few pages on the below document.

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2022/07/18/3fceeddc-01d1-4f99-a01c-247fed27682d/Handbook_2022-23_PL-Youth-Development-Rules.pdf

If I had time I'd go through it but I trust the info I was told a few years back. All may have changed as I said. Regardless of what we get, don't get, selling all our young assets isn't the way forward.
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