New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[UTR]

Off topic but the recent going after fans got me thinking about those who were ringing the alarm bells early on (not just on here) and took a fair bit of stick.

Similar to the previous regime where alarm bells were rung early, mostly ignored and shut down and then it slowly unravelled to have truth.

I’m not meaning those who blow negative all the time and nitpick for anything, I’m talking about those who raised reasonable and valid concerns.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

I'm sure he said it was about 300 tickets a game, which would be £3,900 a game or c£90k a season.  Which I'm not sure if the Nationwide deal covers? However, I doubt all those 300 people would still go and then you have food/drinks, merchandise sales on top.

If we were selling out every week then I could understand but as I said, would they all be happy to pay £27 a game?

I got a few nationwide tickets through a mate this year and bought two beers every game. That'll bridge some gap for example.

It's so shortsighted, even without if being laughably a drop in the ocean compared to how the figures already don't add up.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Spencer was the Trust rep at the meeting, so probably not

He needs to go. Way too close to the club. Should have gone after the "we know who you are" jabs at stfc questions on twitter.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

To be fair, that's not football specific. A CEO needs certain qualities, and maybe he's supremely competent behind the scenes, but speaking in public is one thing you have to get right if you do it.

Ha. Good one.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Off topic but the recent going after fans got me thinking about those who were ringing the alarm bells early on (not just on here) and took a fair bit of stick.

Similar to the previous regime where alarm bells were rung early, mostly ignored and shut down and then it slowly unravelled to have truth.

I’m not meaning those who blow negative all the time and nitpick for anything, I’m talking about those who raised reasonable and valid concerns.

I feel like it's only just starting to turn with some posters. It's been a long hard slog to get people to wake up to this regime.

The only ones left now are the Facebook clem loyalists that'll never be turned. One of them was even arguing that Anthony Hall didn't say about free games yesterday.

[theakston2k]

Off topic but the recent going after fans got me thinking about those who were ringing the alarm bells early on (not just on here) and took a fair bit of stick.

Similar to the previous regime where alarm bells were rung early, mostly ignored and shut down and then it slowly unravelled to have truth.

I’m not meaning those who blow negative all the time and nitpick for anything, I’m talking about those who raised reasonable and valid concerns.

The thing is Morfuni was quite clever with who he chose to manipulate and do his bidding. Getting members of the Trust board to be his lapdogs and vocal people on a Twitter to effectively do his PR was very calculated and bought him time. A lot of the regimes early misdemeanours were batted off as honest mistakes or misunderstandings due to this ‘saviour’ image that had been built up for him. Anyone critical of him couldn’t possibly be right as he had a whiter than white image.

It’s notable in recent times that some of his more previously ardent supporters have gone silent or even gone against him and his mob which has meant the alarm bells are able to be clearly heard by everyone. There’s almost no one left to defend the regime or give out the stick to those that are critical.

Morfuni has clearly got what he wants (50% of the ground) and as a result the true version of him has become apparent. In previous years some half arsed apology for what Hall said would have been released, it says everything that on this occasion there has been nothing but silence. It’s clear Morfuni and his mob just don’t care anymore.

[Mooneyraker]

The thing is Morfuni was quite clever with who he chose to manipulate and do his bidding. Getting members of the Trust board to be his lapdogs and vocal people on a Twitter to effectively do his PR was very calculated and bought him time. A lot of the regimes early misdemeanours were batted off as honest mistakes or misunderstandings due to this ‘saviour’ image that had been built up for him. Anyone critical of him couldn’t possibly be right as he had a whiter than white image.

It’s notable in recent times that some of his more previously ardent supporters have gone silent or even gone against him and his mob which has meant the alarm bells are able to be clearly heard by everyone. There’s almost no one left to defend the regime or give out the stick to those that are critical.

Morfuni has clearly got what he wants (50% of the ground) and as a result the true version of him has become apparent. In previous years some half arsed apology for what Hall said would have been released, it says everything that on this occasion there has been nothing but silence. It’s clear Morfuni and his mob just don’t care anymore.

Brilliant summary.

[Peter Venkman]

The only ones left now are the Facebook clem loyalists that'll never be turned. One of them was even arguing that Anthony Hall didn't say about free games yesterday.

Selective hearing and limited intelligence are a bad mix.

[Batch]

It’s clear Morfuni and his mob just don’t care anymore.

But why? If you've got £6M+ tied up and want a ROI you don't run it into the ground.

To my mind there are three options. I'm sure there are loads more:
 1. Trussing the pig to sell.
 2. No money and desperately trying to wheel and deal in the background
 3. Its a nice little earner for someone even if we shed a few fans.

I have no idea which it is.

[Peter Venkman]

But why? If you've got £6M+ tied up and want a ROI you don't run it into the ground.

To my mind there are three options. I'm sure there are loads more:
 1. Trussing the pig to sell.
 2. No money and desperately trying to wheel and deal in the background
 3. Its a nice little earner for someone even if we shed a few fans.

I have no idea which it is.

Likely a combination of all the above.

[RobertT]

I think the revelations about Chelsea sending money our/Powers way shows us we should never discount anything when it comes to football.  The very basic P&L doesn't tell us much of a story - I can make a business loss making if I create sufficient "costs".

I am not saying that is true for us right now, we just don't know though.  We can't, clearly, just take their word for it is the thing.

Also, if someone does go and buy the club for decent money, it will all be worth it regardless.

On Hall - he is not someone who seems (on available information and public viewing) at all qualified to be a CEO of a football club, a CEO of any business or someone who would be placed in charge of a significant football ground development.  He is clearly there to protect Clem's interests and do his bidding.

[theakston2k]

Likely a combination of all the above.

I guess the one other one is what is the club actually being used for, is the operation of it as a business/football team an irrelevance to those actually calling the shots. We basically had it confirmed the club was used for money laundering/FFP evasion under Power with the Abramovic thing.

[Mooneyraker]

I guess the one other one is what is the club actually being used for, is the operation of it as a business/football team an irrelevance to those actually calling the shots. We basically had it confirmed the club was used for money laundering/FFP evasion under Power with the Abramovic thing.

Luckily no one with a background in laundering is involved in any way with the club.

[Family at War]

We need to approach Nick Watkins to come back. A gentleman and a professional

[RobertT]

Good old Zav - see his efforts are likely to pay dividends (and probably a whole host of fees associated with obtaining Visa's etc):

https://footballpakistan.com/2023/06/pakistani-footballers-to-get-uk-scholarships/