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« Reply #8670 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 23:48:48 »

Just managed to watch it back. What a shit-show, this is worse than the Power era, right?

Two peas, one pod.
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« Reply #8671 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 00:42:18 »

Well I feel less guilty about fleecing the club for £50 last week!!


Time to burn it down to the ground & start again, again

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« Reply #8672 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 01:25:55 »

Not many examples at our level of clubs providing more detail, so we are pretty high up on that list.  Could we get more, yes and I think all fans should get more.



I can go digging, I probably will,  but this suggests we are a long way short of most clubs, scratching around in mid table in our League:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6047aabc7130e94a70ed3515/t/64e72936481ec6040f954a96/1692871010826/FG+-+240823+-+V1.10+-+LOW+RES.pdf

You may say it's just a sort of mix of survey and analysis, but then the club must also dismiss it.....

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2023/june/robins-announce-partnership-with-fair-game/

Now, I don't want to be accused of being a cynic here, but I wonder if the aim about pressing the PL to distribute more money down the divisions may be the sole reason our club joined up?
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« Reply #8673 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 01:38:02 »

So, digging started.  Carlisle and Exeter are previous examples I have noted as being very comprehensive.  I present to you Tranmere Rovers, a club that is fairly similar in size to ours, if not a tad smaller I'd have thought:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00118587/filing-history/MzM3NDg4MDY0OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
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« Reply #8674 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 07:01:24 »

Hall mentioned something along the lines of ‘simplifying ticket categories’ which to me reads as ‘pushing more fans into the highest priced Adult category’.

A sizeable increase in ST prices sounds likely, and no doubt the already obscene £27 walk up will be reviewed. He didn’t sound impressed by the Nationwide deal either!

Interesting times ahead.
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« Reply #8675 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 07:18:39 »

Genuine question- is it possible to get the Covid refund still?


Would rather take it out of the club and give to a charity than fund these pricks.


Anthony Hall needn't worry about this season ticket holder getting free games next season!
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« Reply #8676 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 07:29:34 »

It reads as though they will do all in their power to significantly reduce the numbers of the one strength the club has: the supporters. This was anti PR.
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« Reply #8677 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 07:33:18 »

No more money from me. Season ticket won’t be renewed. Pre match beers in pub instead of Legends Lounge and will eat elsewhere.
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« Reply #8678 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 08:01:57 »

So, digging started.  Carlisle and Exeter are previous examples I have noted as being very comprehensive.  I present to you Tranmere Rovers, a club that is fairly similar in size to ours, if not a tad smaller I'd have thought:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00118587/filing-history/MzM3NDg4MDY0OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0


Whats your point here? This is pretty much the same as STFC?
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« Reply #8679 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 08:26:51 »

Absolutely awful interview.

Deplorable to suggest that season ticket holder are getting 9 free games, we're paying less per game, but we're buying the tickets in advance of knowing the squad, regardless of form and regardless of whether we'll actually be able to attend every fixture.

Only looking at adult prices, you'd only get 8.55 "free' games if you're an early bird side stand ST holder, if you're a standard TE season ticket holder you only get 6.26 games "free". For me who is in the TE and doesn't end up attending most Tuesday night games, it just about breaks even assuming I don't miss a single Saturday due to illness, family commitments or holidays. Absolutely fuck all chance of renewing if they up the price by a substantial amount to decrease the "free" games, found it hard enough to persuade myself to get a season ticket this year, and things have only got worse since then! Also considering the new EFL TV deal, it's more likely fans will miss more games next season as they're moved around for the increased TV coverage.

Under Clem, the club has just becoming a milking machine, trying to suck as much value out of every fan, from the waiving of ST refunds to the man city ticket prices, from the cutting of family options to the upping of ticket costs, if the club is offered the chance to take money out of fans pockets they'll certainly take it. And what are we seeing from this? A competitive budget that can't even fund a full squad, 1 million in losses per season and the club requiring volunteers to function. Without even taking into account all the red flags that have been mentioned on this thread countless times, it's absolutely no fucking wonder that people are becoming more and more disenfranchised with it all.
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« Reply #8680 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 08:39:27 »

Whats your point here? This is pretty much the same as STFC?
I don't want to speak for Rob but I'd guess it'll be along the lines of:
STFC 16 pages - no breakdowns
TRFC - 40 pages - inc. breakdowns

The two sets of accounts really diverge in pages 28 to 40 where the breakdowns are set out

STFC's latest is here
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00053100/filing-history/MzM3MTAyMTE0M2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
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« Reply #8681 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 08:52:37 »

@ STFC_Manc how do you feel the interview went? All good?
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« Reply #8682 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 08:58:59 »

The distain in which the new CEO has shown towards season ticket holders has really p!ssed me off....
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« Reply #8683 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 09:01:02 »

Worrying that according to our CEO budgets for January are going to be discussed after20th December when Clem is back. A bit late in the day surely?
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« Reply #8684 on: Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 09:06:41 »

Worrying that according to our CEO budgets for January are going to be discussed after20th December when Clem is back. A bit late in the day surely?

Said the same, it’s shockingly late. Forward thinking clubs have had these conversations at the minimum weeks ago if not further
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