New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

watching rotherham vs leeeds on tv and can only feel sadness a club like rotherham in the championship with a relatively new ground

OK they are struggling in the champ but i woudl love town to be struggling in the champ right now

sad because i think that there are all the ingredients and potential here that it should be town

Thinking exactly the same.
Fucking hate where we are right now and the wankers that we have had owning the Club.

[Wobbly Bob]

Yo yoing between L1 & Championship would be heaven.

[Bob's Orange]

Have we given up on the Monthly Nonsense?

Nearly 2 weeks since it took place.

I imagine they will put the minutes out at 3:45 today.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

If the Trust announced they had seen the books and everything was fine, do you think anyone would accept that?

I'd remain somewhat sceptical the club are hiding things.....which given its almost two months and we've not heard fuck all, I'd think you'd agree wouldn't be hysterical?

[Mooneyraker]

Silence in both the worlds of the Monthly Nonsense and the Trust.

[bathford]

It’s such a shame. The financial history of this club basically puts off a lot of people here in the UK and overseas in looking seriously at the club.

There are way too many skeletons in the cupboard and potential pit falls to risk it. Having talked to a number of them here in the UK and elsewhere, I know that a number will not, and I include myself in this, put family money and reputation into a project that is dodgy to say the least.

Mat one point I had conversations with a possible CEO prepared to work with me. But we both decided that it wasn’t worth the risk.

Now I’m still not sure about Clem. We’ve had a number of conversations since he started. His heart I believe is genuine. Don’t ask me why I think this, I just do.

Has he screwed up, absolutely. Has he admitted it - yes.

As I understand it, he’s due to land in the UK on Boxing Day.

I’m prepared to give him January to sort it out, both on and off the pitch.

After that? We’ll see.

[TailBetweenLegs]

It’s such a shame. The financial history of this club basically puts off a lot of people here in the UK and overseas in looking seriously at the club.

There are way too many skeletons in the cupboard and potential pit falls to risk it. Having talked to a number of them here in the UK and elsewhere, I know that a number will not, and I include myself in this, put family money and reputation into a project that is dodgy to say the least.

Mat one point I had conversations with a possible CEO prepared to work with me. But we both decided that it wasn’t worth the risk.

Now I’m still not sure about Clem. We’ve had a number of conversations since he started. His heart I believe is genuine. Don’t ask me why I think this, I just do.

Has he screwed up, absolutely. Has he admitted it - yes.

As I understand it, he’s due to land in the UK on Boxing Day.

I’m prepared to give him January to sort it out, both on and off the pitch.

After that? We’ll see.

I am inclined to agree. I defended the club on far too many occasions in the last couple of years to the extent i have fallen out with members of the club and board as i do think i was lied to at times and it has left a real bad in my mouth. Despite all this i still believe that Clem had/has the right intentions and his hands have been tied by still having the hangers on from the Power days.

That is not me burying my head or making excuses, i am disgusted with the club and have not been since August despite having a season ticket

[Batch]

instincts are good, but do you think the said hangers on have for whatever reason 'influence' rather than just being (eg. matchday guests)? I guess so given you've not been since August.

Said it many times by if Clem had come in, clean break, struggled but tried I'd be much happier

I about the club can't win with me now. So much nonsense around directors/not directors, shares and bullshit. But moreover former associates of power with criminal records make me nervous.

Anyway I guess we've done all this to death

[RobertT]

Did we ever get any sort of official position on the risk/exposure of the Chelsea dealings?  In relation to whether or not funds were indeed channeled into the club, and, I suppose, whether or not we identified any money going the other way?

[No Longer Posh Red]

I'd remain somewhat sceptical the club are hiding things.....which given its almost two months and we've not heard fuck all, I'd think you'd agree wouldn't be hysterical?

Not at all, but the point I was making is we want the trust to see the finances & report back, but I don’t think many would be happy unless the trust come back with a negative report.

[Batch]

and if they come back with a positive report some will wonder if the books were genuine..

[singingiiiffy]

Did we ever get any sort of official position on the risk/exposure of the Chelsea dealings?  In relation to whether or not funds were indeed channeled into the club, and, I suppose, whether or not we identified any money going the other way?

we know nothing, but what did come out suggest no repayment was needed if we didnt achieve promotion. which sounds just as crazy as the fact that chelsea gave us money in the first place.

power was involved with the club april 2013 and took control december 2013. we did of course play chelsea in the league cup september 2013....

[Ginginho]

I am inclined to agree. I defended the club on far too many occasions in the last couple of years to the extent i have fallen out with members of the club and board as i do think i was lied to at times and it has left a real bad in my mouth. Despite all this i still believe that Clem had/has the right intentions and his hands have been tied by still having the hangers on from the Power days.

That is not me burying my head or making excuses, i am disgusted with the club and have not been since August despite having a season ticket

Welcome back, Dean

[tans]

Welcome back, Dean

[bathford]

Unfortunately, Clem is now in a no win situation regarding the books.

We all know the outcome of this, whatever the findings by the Trust, Clem will be a liar.

The only opportunity he has is to support MF with new players. No other options are available.