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« Reply #7920 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 07:39:29 » |
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I can't believe people are convincing themselves that Sutton have a bigger wage bill than us because they are paying London weighted wages!
The point is that with our revenue vs their revenue we should be outspending them, end of story.
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« Reply #7921 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 07:44:10 » |
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Never trusted this “Group” from day one. Absolute shambles and lies. Knew from day one about the budgets and certain details not for open forum discussion.
The reason why I laughed at the “competitive budget” statement absolute bull shit. We are low end League Two and have been since his tenure. Not a pot to piss in and panic has set in commercially now.
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« Reply #7922 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 07:45:41 » |
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Never trusted this “Group” from day one. Absolute shambles and lies. Knew from day one about the budgets and certain details not for open forum discussion.
The reason why I laughed at the “competitive budget” statement absolute bull shit. We are low end League Two and have been since his tenure. Not a pot to piss in and panic has set in commercially now.
How do you see it playing out?
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« Reply #7923 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 08:55:41 » |
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How do you see it playing out?
Very concerning and can only hope common sense prevails and this lot leave with a small comfort of respect. A takeover happens and we can move on once more in our history. Two major concerns the selling price and who actually owns what and what will they want out of any potential sale. Getting to the point now where I can see Clem wanting out but who else will have a say? Only hope that we don’t get points deductions. Immediate concerns are whether bills are being paid, hearing all sorts but the rumour mill is bursting. It’s going to be a bumpy ride though.
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« Reply #7924 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:05:15 » |
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Pinched from another forum
If we humour this and say that it is true, (at this stage it's difficult to tell the difference between fact and fiction) then surely it's very concerning that Clem is putting in 250k in November to aid cash flow. The biggest outgoing is the player wages I assume? So if our income is circa 6-7m (can't remember the exact figure) then deducting the players wage outgoing of 2m leaves 4-5m. Clearly there are other costs to deduct, but would these accumulated costs be more than 4-5m per year?
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise, the gorgie boys, for Hearts in Europe.
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« Reply #7925 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:09:54 » |
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And that is the problem. Nobody knows where the money goes. Perhaps Zavier Austin might know. He’s good with money isn’t he?
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« Reply #7926 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:10:21 » |
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If we humour this and say that it is true, (at this stage it's difficult to tell the difference between fact and fiction) then surely it's very concerning that Clem is putting in 250k in November to aid cash flow. The biggest outgoing is the player wages I assume? So if our income is circa 6-7m (can't remember the exact figure) then deducting the players wage outgoing of 2m leaves 4-5m. Clearly there are other costs to deduct, but would these accumulated costs be more than 4-5m per year?
Bingo... somebody is doing alright out of us.
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« Reply #7927 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:12:44 » |
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Heard a rumour that the Council told the club that the roof in the Arkells stand needed emergency work this summer, £250k. Anybody else heard that and whether that affected the ability to afford players?
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« Reply #7928 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:16:38 » |
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Heard a rumour that the Council told the club that the roof in the Arkells stand needed emergency work this summer, £250k. Anybody else heard that and whether that affected the ability to afford players?
Only what was said in the statement The club pay rental to the JV which is then paid back to the club and reinvested to fix the stadium which is being carried out progressively which we have reported on in the Advisory board meeting minutes and the current spend this close season was +£200K.
Not clear if rent savings paid for most of that, or if 200K was above it. If we've sacrificed players by necessity to do the repairs - why are we needing 250K in November?
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« Reply #7929 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:17:10 » |
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Heard a rumour that the Council told the club that the roof in the Arkells stand needed emergency work this summer, £250k. Anybody else heard that and whether that affected the ability to afford players?
If so, why not tell us? This is the sort of thing that the Trust should be telling us about as 'normal business.' There is a County Ground Community Fund that people are paying into. What is happening to that money?
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« Reply #7930 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:17:41 » |
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Also - if true why not come out and say this? Surely fans will understand if the Arkells roof requires work and requires money on it? Why try and hide it? (if true)
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise, the gorgie boys, for Hearts in Europe.
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« Reply #7931 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:18:55 » |
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Very concerning and can only hope common sense prevails and this lot leave with a small comfort of respect. A takeover happens and we can move on once more in our history. Two major concerns the selling price and who actually owns what and what will they want out of any potential sale. Getting to the point now where I can see Clem wanting out but who else will have a say?
Only hope that we don’t get points deductions. Immediate concerns are whether bills are being paid, hearing all sorts but the rumour mill is bursting.
It’s going to be a bumpy ride though.
Points deduction is the Kraken beneath the surface here. Couple that with the owner(s) pulling the plug and we can all start planning our away day to Wealdstone.
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« Reply #7932 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:20:18 » |
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Also - if true why not come out and say this? Surely fans will understand if the Arkells roof requires work and requires money on it? Why try and hide it? (if true)
These were my thoughts too
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« Reply #7933 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:22:39 » |
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Very concerning and can only hope common sense prevails and this lot leave with a small comfort of respect. A takeover happens and we can move on once more in our history. Two major concerns the selling price and who actually owns what and what will they want out of any potential sale. Getting to the point now where I can see Clem wanting out but who else will have a say?
Only hope that we don’t get points deductions. Immediate concerns are whether bills are being paid, hearing all sorts but the rumour mill is bursting.
It’s going to be a bumpy ride though.
What part of the shenanigans could potentially lead to points deductions DOB out of interest?
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise, the gorgie boys, for Hearts in Europe.
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« Reply #7934 on: Friday, November 10, 2023, 09:23:26 » |
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What part of the shenanigans could potentially lead to points deductions DOB out of interest?
Not paying players on time I think comes with a suspended points deduction so two months without it being on time
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