ChalkyWhiteIsGod
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« Reply #6765 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 09:47:08 » |
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Because it is. Enjoy the pod but could do without the knowing cynicism. On payments - it’s not great but name me a company that doesn’t delay payment until the last moment - pretty standard business.
Depends if its paying an invoice 30 days later or 4 months later really, doesn't it? Big difference. Clarity on which it is would be needed to know how red the flag is.
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ChalkyWhiteIsGod
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« Reply #6766 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 09:48:46 » |
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If delaying payments to smaller companies is par for the course then so be it but my question would then be what is the threshold for unacceptability on that front? Does it matter who the business/org seeking payment is? What is out of order?
Within 30 days is on time, 30 to 60 is delayed, over 60 is taking the fucking piss.
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« Reply #6767 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 09:57:09 » |
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I've always slightly assumed that you go harder on this current ownership because you feel you turned a blind eye to Power for so long, but that's my own reading of it.
I on the other hand am far easier on this regime when I think about it. I had Power down as a crook from very early whereas Clem, I'm just not sure.....but if I think about it, some of the stuff that has happened with Clem if it happened under Power I'd react very differently.
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« Reply #6768 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 09:57:51 » |
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I had to use debt collectors for a £5k debt years ago. It was well over 90 days due.
Couple of right scary fuckers, too.
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« Reply #6769 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 09:59:22 » |
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Within 30 days is on time, 30 to 60 is delayed, over 60 is taking the fucking piss.
I guess it also depends if you are contesting the invoice ( not that I know this is the case). For instance we challenged the amount owed to the company providing the food & beverage services and only after negotiating did the money get paid. You could also have a scenario when someone quotes you £x and then invoices significantly more, you may then question it. However, If it’s a small local business and not taking the piss it seems a bit shit
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« Reply #6770 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 10:11:48 » |
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Within 30 days is on time, 30 to 60 is delayed, over 60 is taking the fucking piss.
It is but there are lots of times it's not even intentional, especially when there are low staffing levels or changes in staff. Not forgetting general incompetence of course. I'm not suggesting that's the cause of the issue as I don't know, I just know a lot about overdue payments!
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« Reply #6771 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 11:40:45 » |
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Yeah I can see it being down to incompetence and disorganisation rather than being sinister, but even then that ain't great either.
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« Reply #6772 on: Monday, October 23, 2023, 11:52:24 » |
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I'm involved with a USA Academy, similar to the one the club appears to be using in Aus. Over here, they have tied their organisation to Chelsea, who, as far as I can tell, have absolutely nothing to do with other than allowing their name to beused and sharing a style of logo (they also use the Chelsea on in promotion material).
The parent do indeed pay a decent fee to have their child signed up the proper Academy and I am sure Chelsea get something from the deal. However, it's not going to make anyone rich - you would need thousands of kids to do that and also have the rights to fees and stuff if they were later signed by a club, which they do not. My one is actually run as a not for profit, so I doubt this will change the clubs financials.
Overall, unlike the Karachi one, this on looks a bit no harm no foul to me. However, it does beg the question on what resources we need to supply - anything more than near zero is an issue given we haven't managed to get our internal house in order yet.
If we were indeed an open and transparent club, run for the fans, as marketed, then we'd be getting the nitty gritty of the deal - like how much it benefits us financially (just the net outcome would do).
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« Reply #6773 on: Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 12:26:55 » |
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Taking an Arsenal mate to the Gills tonight. We were both there in 69. He'll get plenty of reminders in Hospitality . It has got me thinking. Other than some bolt on seats, the Stratton Bank and the Townend are pristine replicas of that '69 season. The Arkells was built on the back of that success and must be 50 years old too by now. Even the Don Rogers, which followed our Premiership season, is nigh on 30 years old - and even adding the allowed for hospitality boxes is still just talk. These icons of STFC history will surely be listed before they are developed. It certainly underlines that any New Beginnings talk is just that. I love the club. I love going to live games. I love the CG itself. I love the late Nigel Eady, for sure. I even foolishly sort of love Clem. But, I'm sorry, our successive so called custodians have preserved nothing (architecture aside) beyond stagnation and slow decline.
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« Reply #6774 on: Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 12:29:00 » |
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Taking an Arsenal mate to the Gills tonight. We were both there in 69. He'll get plenty of reminders in Hospitality . It has got me thinking. Other than some bolt on seats, the Stratton Bank and the Townend are pristine replicas of that '69 season. The Arkells was built on the back of that success and must be 50 years old too by now. Even the Don Rogers, which followed our Premiership season, is nigh on 30 years old - and even adding the allowed for hospitality boxes is still just talk. These icons of STFC history will surely be listed before they are developed. It certainly underlines that any New Beginnings talk is just that. I love the club. I love going to live games. I love the CG itself. I love the late Nigel Eady, for sure. I even foolishly sort of love Clem. But, I'm sorry, our successive so called custodians have preserved nothing beyond stagnation and slow decline. Correct.
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« Reply #6775 on: Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 12:33:23 » |
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I was also at Wembley in March 1969
As so many have said before... Its the hope that kills you !!!
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« Reply #6777 on: Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 18:08:35 » |
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is that one EFL enforced?
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« Reply #6778 on: Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 19:12:12 » |
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Within 30 days is on time, 30 to 60 is delayed, over 60 is taking the fucking piss.
Sadly from experience it's the blue chip cash heavy companies who are the biggest arseholes to get money out of, smaller and people tend to be much easier.
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« Reply #6779 on: Wednesday, October 25, 2023, 11:01:27 » |
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When is this stadium gig getting announced then? Because we have been told it is happening in Summer 2024.
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