New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[DiV]

It was a very small response to a query from a fan asking about smaller away attendances in league 2 due to our most local visitors being Northampton and Wimbledon and if this affects our budget. Kieran McGuire stated he estimates we lose £15,000 per match because of poor away numbers or approx £50,000 per month.

He did end by saying under Clem our finances appear to be in a much better state but that's hardly breaking news, albeit positive.

Would love to know exactly how that is worked out.

Like, obviously bigger away followings generate more income but also incur extra costs as well surely?
Stewarding, policing, operating turnstiles, opening the bank must cost?

I wonder what away following is the optimal numbers/size for bringing in the most income without the extra costs.

Like someone like Leeds would sell the allocation no problem but would come up with massive additional costs too…

Unless that £15,000 is already extra income minus extra costs rather than just extra income.

Taking a punt here but let’s just say (ticket + parking + food) an away fan spends on average £30. Then £15,000 / 30 = 500 people.

Do we average over a season 500 less people per away following per game based on the division and teams in it.

[RobertT]

I have always assumed Maguire is just a fan who knows some stuff about numbers and accidently ending up sounding like an expert as a result.

[Hyabb17]

I have always assumed Maguire is just a fan who knows some stuff about numbers and accidently ending up sounding like an expert as a result.

I believe he has a degree which specialises in sports finances.

[RobertT]

So, as I described him then ;-)

The financial data available for football clubs is largely opaque at best.  A decent accountant can give some broad stroke analysis of most clubs, but I'd take with a pinch of salt anyone expressing "facts".

[horlock07]

I believe he has a degree which specialises in sports finances.

He's an accountant who writes about and lectures about on an MBA course about football finance.

[Bob's Orange]

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/december/december-advisory-board-minutes-released/

December Advisory Board minutes up - I haven't read them yet.

[4D]

"Looking at how to improve the CG atmosphere"

Take some shots?

[DMC]

"Looking at how to improve the CG atmosphere"

Take some shots?

Did that all last season. Took McKirdy to come out with 5 games to go to still get it going. I think we need to accept we are a club with shit home support unless it's a big game

[DiV]

Did that all last season. Took McKirdy to come out with 5 games to go to still get it going. I think we need to accept we are a club with shit home support unless it's a big game

Which is probably the same for 90% of clubs up and down the country.

[Posh Red]

Did that all last season. Took McKirdy to come out with 5 games to go to still get it going. I think we need to accept we are a club with shit home support unless it's a big game

I was talking to a friend about this yesterday, and think Town fans are particularly fickle (they’re not the only ones) but they’re great when things are going well, but are quick to turn when they’re not.

As for improving the atmosphere, trying to attack with some purpose will help, start the game fast & really go for the opposition.

Thinking of earlier in the season when we were playing Salford, McKirdy getting sent off really got the crowd going as we all felt wronged against.

On Saturday we sat in the Arkells as we had hospitality tickets, and you could barely hear any support from our fans, probably didn’t help that the football was yawn inducing

[singingiiiffy]

atmosphere will always be bad because of league 2. look at the league 1 teams we could have been playing against, local derbies, sold out stratton banks, better players.

singing to 2000 rovers fans or 20 Carlisle fans. The atmosphere has generally been shit this except for feisty moments. one of the best was against newport- purely down to the opposition.

[Batch]

the atmosphere certainly has gone wrong in the last few years , at least when things are going wrong as already pointed out

a couple of times this year a chant or two has woken me from comatose  state and I've realised it's been missing the whole game.

not even many sarcastic or angry chants these days, bar one memorable misplaced town end effort.

I guess there are a number of reasons for it and no easy fix.

I'm getting old and accepting. I have no excuse.

[JoeMezz]

"Looking at how to improve the CG atmosphere"

Take some shots?

Yep the style of football is the most limiting factor to the atmosphere

[Peter Venkman]

Yep the style of football is the most limiting factor to the atmosphere

I agree, at least last season we had the livewire Harry who could get the fans on their feet when he had the ball, excitement, something we have been lacking for 95% of the season so far.

[DMC]

Yep the style of football is the most limiting factor to the atmosphere

Richie Wellens at least 3 times came out after games and begged the fans to be better.  I honestly think we are just a bit shit