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« Reply #225 on: Friday, January 14, 2022, 09:12:46 »

I'm not convinced he actually stumbled, I think the fall was to try and cover his blushes by making it look like he was off balance.

I think it was a legitimate stumble but as a second movement, trying to turn round to see what had happened long after the ball had passed him and hit the stumps - the intial movement was just way too far across the stumps, like trying to flick down leg except the ball wasn't leg side enough and he went too far.
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« Reply #226 on: Friday, January 14, 2022, 14:00:42 »

I'm not convinced he actually stumbled, I think the fall was to try and cover his blushes by making it look like he was off balance.

Just saw it from another angle and he hit his leg with his bat as he brought it down, made it look even more genuine
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« Reply #227 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 08:42:48 »

England collapse as predictably as night follows day
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« Reply #228 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 09:55:02 »

This is just not good enough. These are professional sportsmen who have shown an abject inability to properly play the sport they are paid to play. Itís easy to get vitriolic as a supporter of this England team but I think itís deserved. Joe Root makes what Iím sure he thinks are the right noises whenever we get whooped but itís getting tired now. Time after time there is literally no improvement. He should step down regardless of whether thereís an obvious successor, England are better off taking a shot in the dark rather than persisting with him as captain. Is there somebody who could come in as a specialist captain? Somebody who can at least organise and motivate this shambles? Thatís a question for you Nemo, you know your stuff.
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« Reply #229 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 11:06:30 »

Jesu Christi that ball from Wood to get Khawaja was a beauty.

As for captains, I don't know really. The experienced county captains around the squad or Lions would be Burns, Billings, Abell, Rhodes and Vince, but I don't know that any of them are tactical wizards. To a point I think captaincy is a bit overrated, there are very few good captains of bad teams - Brearley and Stephen Fleming, maybe Jason Holder are the only candidates I can think of.

Eoin Morgan is the only obviously excellent captain in England and he's not a test match option.

The problem is there aren't obvious players to come in. The current players are the best we have, more or less, and we need them to get better. I'd be looking at coaching as the main area we can improve. Also preparation - India A play twice as much cricket as the England Lions do and shockingly enough, their players debut and look ready. Ours look out of their depth.

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« Reply #230 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 11:14:32 »

Jesu Christi that ball from Wood to get Khawaja was a beauty.

As for captains, I don't know really. The experienced county captains around the squad or Lions would be Burns, Billings, Abell, Rhodes and Vince, but I don't know that any of them are tactical wizards. To a point I think captaincy is a bit overrated, there are very few good captains of bad teams - Brearley and Stephen Fleming, maybe Jason Holder are the only candidates I can think of.

Eoin Morgan is the only obviously excellent captain in England and he's not a test match option.

The problem is there aren't obvious players to come in. The current players are the best we have, more or less, and we need them to get better. I'd be looking at coaching as the main area we can improve. Also preparation - India A play twice as much cricket as the England Lions do and shockingly enough, their players debut and look ready. Ours look out of their depth.


Agree with that - snorter from Wood!

The batsmen are ALL technically flawed - some more so than others.

Root is a good Test batsman. I think Pope can be saved. Crawley has the same issues as Hick. Malan, I'm starting to worry about. The others are middle order bashers.

Adding one player who could bat long would change the dynamics of the side immensely.
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« Reply #231 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 12:19:39 »

It doesnít matter who the captain is when you are consistently bowled out for 200 or less, especially when the opposition are regularly scoring 400+

But this isnít a new problem, we havenít won a test down under for 10 years, in fact itís something like 12-0 with 2 draws in the last 3 tours.

It coincides with a pretty good time at white ball cricket for England, so clearly thatís where the focus has been.
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« Reply #232 on: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:25:39 »

Yes, its not because of guile, its because our batsmen can't score runs or occupy the crease and our bowlers look threatening in short spells but often fail to capitalise on good starts.
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« Reply #233 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 08:20:13 »

Hello  Shocked
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« Reply #234 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 08:22:44 »

Have we scored as many as 271 at all on this tour?
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« Reply #235 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 08:51:44 »

Purple patch for Mr Wood. Two wickets on no balls too (Broad and Woakes).

Mr Burns disappointingly out just before tea.
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« Reply #236 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 09:18:44 »

And there goes Malan.....and Crawley
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« Reply #237 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 09:46:22 »

....and Stokes!
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« Reply #238 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 10:07:06 »

That ball to Root sums up England's series. Utterly unplayable.
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« Reply #239 on: Sunday, January 16, 2022, 10:09:23 »

Poor Root - Breaks his favourite bat then gets a grubber!

The end is nigh.
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