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« Reply #6300 on: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 14:17:36 » |
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Our tests came back negative. Hoorah!
That's good news!
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« Reply #6301 on: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 14:28:20 » |
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That's good news!
Sure is. Not sure I would have coped with the kids being off for so long!!!
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« Reply #6302 on: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 15:26:08 » |
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great news sippo.
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« Reply #6303 on: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 16:43:01 » |
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This is the actor, yeah? All actors are of course famously hard when they are not playing dress up and pretend after having their make up done.
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« Reply #6304 on: Thursday, November 19, 2020, 14:40:30 » |
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« Reply #6305 on: Thursday, November 19, 2020, 16:25:38 » |
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Something else to blame the EU for...
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« Reply #6306 on: Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:48:55 » |
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Something else to blame the EU for...
They probably got it from our officials. Who probably got it from the bozo in chief.
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #6307 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:40:12 » |
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Seems like the Oxford vaccine that the government were betting on gives 70% immunity. Which is good, better than the flu vaccine anyway. Interestingly those given a half dose up front and a full dose second had a higher immunity rate than those with full doses both times, but I guessing because this isn’t the headline number it’s not statistically significant
Either way, given the amount ordered and it’s apparently cheaper and easier to make and store than the alternates, should mean we can be well on our way to a full scale vaccination early next year. Even if they give the ‘great’ ones to the old and vulnerable, and give the Oxford ‘good enough’ one to everyone else
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« Reply #6308 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:43:47 » |
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Seems like the Oxford vaccine that the government were betting on gives 70% immunity. Which is good, better than the flu vaccine anyway. Interestingly those given a half dose up front and a full dose second had a higher immunity rate than those with full doses both times, but I guessing because this isn’t the headline number it’s not statistically significant
Either way, given the amount ordered and it’s apparently cheaper and easier to make and store than the alternates, should mean we can be well on our way to a full scale vaccination early next year. Even if they give the ‘great’ ones to the old and vulnerable, and give the Oxford ‘good enough’ one to everyone else
Not sure why they're running with the 70% number. The dosage pattern of half then full dose is 90% accurate so just do that one. 20% of the price, easy supply chain - all good news.
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« Reply #6309 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:45:15 » |
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Although I’ve also just read that apparent side effects of the Oxford Vaccine include intense dizziness, nausea and sticking bananas up your bum. So be careful
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« Reply #6310 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:46:02 » |
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Presumably it's only 70% effective as it only attacks the virus from three sides?
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« Reply #6311 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:46:07 » |
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Not sure why they're running with the 70% number. The dosage pattern of half then full dose is 90% accurate so just do that one.
20% of the price, easy supply chain - all good news.
I don’t think the team behind it quite understand why the figures vary so much, so probably why the caution. And/or small sample sizes not statistically significant
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« Reply #6312 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 08:51:06 » |
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Presumably it's only 70% effective as it only attacks the virus from three sides?
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« Reply #6313 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 09:33:14 » |
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I don’t think the team behind it quite understand why the figures vary so much, so probably why the caution. And/or small sample sizes not statistically significant
I heard the guy from the team on the radio this morning and he said pretty much precisely this (while the interviewer was trying to get him to do the "But how did you feel?" shtick that the BBC seem to do instead of actual reporting these days, FFS). I was actually quite encouraged that they were being cautious about efficacy numbers, rather than going for the bombastic "better than them" press releases that (e.g.) the Russian Sputnik vaccine seemed to go for. Suggests there's more confidence in the numbers they are prepared to claim actually being replicable in the real world. 70% is way better than most vaccines in common usage apparently (according to the vaccine experts on How to Vaccinate the World who reckoned most come in around 50-60%) and if it's easier to use/distribute this could get us much further toward a solution more quickly than something that's theoretically better but a twat to store and distribute.
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« Reply #6314 on: Monday, November 23, 2020, 09:34:58 » |
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Fully agree with the analysis above, but there is something so 2020 Britain with us buying the 70% effective vaccine when others are 20% more effective.
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