Let's Get Political!

[Flashheart]

How much further back do you want to go back, shall I try and find some posters advertising slaves for sale....

Feel free, but I don't see what your point would be. Are you still denying there is a history of racism in the Tory party?

Fuck this anyway, I'm going to the pub.

[REDBUCK]

I'm not defending the Tories, I'm just trying to bring some balance to what appears to be a forum of Labour apologists...

There's very little point trying to point out the balance with some posters, views are already entrenched and it usually ends with a 'fuck this' and a visit to the pub

[Reg Smeeton]

A Tory poster from 1964. But there's no history of racism in the Tory party?

Fuck off!

The Tory party has a long and not particularly distinguished history of racism and anti-Semitism.  

With a few honourable exceptions, like Edward Heath who sacked Enoch Powell for his famous racist speech..... probably no chance of Johnson sacking himself.

It's probably a bit difficult for those not around to get a feel for how popular Powell was.... in polls something like 75% of people agreed with him.  

Labour then passed the Race Relations Act of 1965, but it was felt by many in the party as not doing enough, and was then replaced by the amended 1968 Act....

In the same way as presently the casual racist thinks the Tories may do something about immigration, they know that Labour is decisively a non racist party.

In the 70 election analysts felt that the Tory perception being prepared to "do something" about immigration is what gained them a majority, in much te same way as "get Brexit done" is feeding the fantasies of today's racist

[pauld]

I'm not defending the Tories

Pretty much every one of your posts on here over the last couple of months has been doing precisely that. Or reheating CCHQ briefing notes attacks on Corbyn. Clear astroturfing

[pauld]

Former Conservative PM John Major has advised voters to vote *against* the Tories. That's quite astonishing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50687225

[Dr Pierre Chang]

I'm not defending the Tories, I'm just trying to bring some balance to what appears to be a forum of Labour apologists...

Just look forward to the meltdown on here next week if the polls are accurate 

I am very much enjoying (and at times cringing at) the usual suspects - it is incredible how wound up grown men are getting at the prospect of a Boris victory.

[Reg Smeeton]

I'm not defending the Tories, I'm just trying to bring some balance to what appears to be a forum of Labour apologists...

Despite saying this a while back....

I am a traditional Tory voter

It's been said many a time but there are few socialists on the TEF, large numbers of Lib Dems, who oppose the Tories on  some aspects of social policy, but like Swinson not austerity, but back them mostly on economic policy.

[Ardiles]

Just look forward to the meltdown on here next week if the polls are accurate  

I am very much enjoying (and at times cringing at) the usual suspects - it is incredible how wound up grown men are getting at the prospect of a Boris victory.

I think people are already resigned to what's about to happen, so doubt there will be a meltdown.  This time next week, fully expect Johnson to be re-elected.  And half the country will do its best to go nowhere near the news for a fortnight.  Corbyn will have resigned the Labour leadership.  And Swinson will probably hang on a little longer, but she will be old news before long as well.

[pauld]

It's been said many a time but there are few socialists on the TEF, large numbers of Lib Dems, who oppose the Tories on  some aspects of social policy, but like Swinson not austerity, but back them mostly on economic policy.

"Been said" by you. I think only horlock and possibly Ardiles have identified as Lib Dems and as far as I can see it's grossly mischaracterising both of them to suggest they "mostly back" the Tories on economic policy. Spin that Johnson would be proud of.

[Ardiles]

"Been said" by you. I think only horlock and possibly Ardiles have identified as Lib Dems and as far as I can see it's grossly mischaracterising both of them to suggest they "mostly back" the Tories on economic policy. Spin that Johnson would be proud of.

Quite.

1.  Used to vote Lib Dem.  But didn't last time, and won't be this time either.
2.  I think I was sympathetic to the need for some spending restraint in the immediate aftermath of the Financial Crisis about 10 years ago.  But, like many, I've been opposed to the depth & duration of austerity policies for many years since.

Why does everything have to be so black & white?

[Mister Lorenzo]

Despite saying this a while back....

It's been said many a time but there are few socialists on the TEF, large numbers of Lib Dems, who oppose the Tories on  some aspects of social policy, but like Swinson not austerity, but back them mostly on economic policy.

Quite true, but doesn't mean I'm defending everything they say or do unlike the Momentum brotherhood on here defending St. Jeremy...

[Dr Pierre Chang]

Corbyn will have resigned the Labour leadership.  

Let’s hope so, as it would very much be a blessing in disguise and give Labour the opportunity to find a competent Leader. Hopefully a credible challenge will be possible when the next election comes around - Corbyn is simply unelectable and a huge opportunity has been missed here.

[Tails]

Let’s hope so, as it would very much be a blessing in disguise and give Labour the opportunity to find a competent Leader. Hopefully a credible challenge will be possible when the next election comes around - Corbyn is simply unelectable and a huge opportunity has been missed here.

The leader of the Conservatives is unelectable as well. So where does that leave us?

FWIW I think it'll come down to a coalition next week. The youth vote will save Corbyn.

[Red Frog]

Let’s hope so, as it would very much be a blessing in disguise and give Labour the opportunity to find a competent Leader. Hopefully a credible challenge will be possible when the next election comes around - Corbyn is simply unelectable and a huge opportunity has been missed here.

Your prediction has given me more hope than anything else in the whole campaign to date.

[StfcRusty]

Let’s hope so, as it would very much be a blessing in disguise and give Labour the opportunity to find a competent Leader. Hopefully a credible challenge will be possible when the next election comes around - Corbyn is simply unelectable and a huge opportunity has been missed here.

Who do you predict? Jason Roberts?