Mister Lorenzo
Dirk Diggler
 Offline
Posts: 238
|
 |
« Reply #8340 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 09:55:55 » |
|
Well this one may run... www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/02/un...“Labour has been told to “come clean” about how it obtained leaked government documents after a report linked them to Russian interference in the general election. Jeremy Corbyn last week published a 451-page dossier of classified information which he used to attack the Conservatives over the NHS. He cited the documents last night in a letter to Donald Trump, quoting from them as he demanded the US President leaves the NHS out of any future trade talks with the UK. But independent researchers say the documents had been published online using methods that directly mirror an earlier Russian disinformation campaign.” |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
horlock07
Offline
Posts: 18965
Lives in Northern Bastard Outpost
|
|
« Reply #8341 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 09:57:39 » |
|
They are on fire this morning...
Raab on R4, “I can tell you CATEGORICALLY, I've NEVER advocated privatisation of the NHS”.
Extract from 2011 book Dominic Raab co-authored with Patel “New non profit & private operators should be allowed into the service...and compete on PRICE”
Patel has also been blaming free movement for terrorism, there have been 12 terror attacks in the UK since 2005. Of the 19 known attackers 14 were British and ZERO entered the country using freedom of movement.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
horlock07
Offline
Posts: 18965
Lives in Northern Bastard Outpost
|
|
« Reply #8342 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 09:58:57 » |
|
Well this one may run... www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/02/un...“Labour has been told to “come clean” about how it obtained leaked government documents after a report linked them to Russian interference in the general election. Jeremy Corbyn last week published a 451-page dossier of classified information which he used to attack the Conservatives over the NHS. He cited the documents last night in a letter to Donald Trump, quoting from them as he demanded the US President leaves the NHS out of any future trade talks with the UK. But independent researchers say the documents had been published online using methods that directly mirror an earlier Russian disinformation campaign.” Isn't it fairly common knowledge that the documents had been freely available on Reddit since at least October, one of the reasons many journalists were so sheepish about it is that they totally missed the story? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Flashheart
|
|
« Reply #8343 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:02:04 » |
|
Well this one may run... www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/02/un...“Labour has been told to “come clean” about how it obtained leaked government documents after a report linked them to Russian interference in the general election. Jeremy Corbyn last week published a 451-page dossier of classified information which he used to attack the Conservatives over the NHS. He cited the documents last night in a letter to Donald Trump, quoting from them as he demanded the US President leaves the NHS out of any future trade talks with the UK. But independent researchers say the documents had been published online using methods that directly mirror an earlier Russian disinformation campaign.” They were already in the public domain (on reddit). Some deflection there from the Torygraph, attempting to distract from the content of the documents themselves. It only concerns the safety of the NHS after all, nothing really worth focusing on... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Mister Lorenzo
Dirk Diggler
Offline
Posts: 238
|
|
« Reply #8344 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:02:23 » |
|
Yup reddit was the outlet; ‘burner’ reddit and twitter accounts initially posted and then attempted to tweet the leak to German press and a number of other political and show business twitter accounts (including Bette Midler and Stephen Fry!). The accounts involved were suspended. There was a very limited number of accesses including Global Justice Now who saw the unredacted version but reported it to the BBC. The MO closely followed a series of previous leaks initiated by a Russian hack group called Secondary Infektion: www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/02/n...Labour refusing to say source of info. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
horlock07
Offline
Posts: 18965
Lives in Northern Bastard Outpost
|
|
« Reply #8345 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:19:06 » |
|
They were already in the public domain (on reddit).
Some deflection there from the Torygraph, attempting to distract from the content of the documents themselves. It only concerns the safety of the NHS after all, nothing really worth focusing on...
Its a dead cat, classic Dom.... I suspect that the Telegraph and government might also be trying to deflect any interest in light of the NATO summit and specifically what happened after the last NATO summit our divine leader attended... Also be interesting to see what if any coverage the cartoon in the Dutch newspaper Volkskrant gets as its pretty bleak, but an insight into how the country, the government and the BBC is being viewed in the Netherlands right now. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:23:39 by horlock07 »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
pauld
Aaron Aardvark
Offline
Posts: 25436
Absolute Calamity!
|
|
« Reply #8346 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:26:41 » |
|
Labour refusing to say source of info.
Erm, reddit by the sounds of it? More importantly, the source is just a distraction from the content. Given that Raab, Priti Patel and Truss co-authored the Britannia Unchained pamphlet which explicitly calls for privatisation of the NHS, a position Johnson has also advocated in the past (albeit quite some time ago), that Farage also favours privatising the NHS and that we know Trump wants to open up the NHS to US pharma, the content showing that the UK govt failed to take the NHS off the table in US trade talks is not just germane but remains deeply alarming. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Flashheart
|
|
« Reply #8347 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 10:38:08 » |
|
It also smacks of desperation from the Torygraph. Things are not looking as comfortable for the Tories as they were a couple of weeks ago.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
horlock07
Offline
Posts: 18965
Lives in Northern Bastard Outpost
|
|
« Reply #8348 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 11:52:12 » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Flashheart
|
|
« Reply #8349 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 12:27:40 » |
|
Raab admits that the yanks can increase prices on drugs sold to the NHS.
Just scaremongering, probably...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Reg Smeeton
Walking Encyclopaedia
Offline
Posts: 34913
|
|
« Reply #8350 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 12:48:17 » |
|
Oh the irony. Stone Circles were part of the Beaker culture which replaced the indiginous longbarrow culture. Beaker folk came from all over Europe, exercising freedom of movement. Nobody knows what happened to precipitate this change, just that there's no evidence of conflict/violence etc. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
flammableBen
Offline
Posts: 1604
|
|
« Reply #8351 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 13:13:27 » |
|
Those beaker folk, coming over here.....
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
horlock07
Offline
Posts: 18965
Lives in Northern Bastard Outpost
|
|
« Reply #8352 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 13:24:14 » |
|
Oh the irony. Stone Circles were part of the Beaker culture which replaced the indiginous longbarrow culture. Beaker folk came from all over Europe, exercising freedom of movement.
Nobody knows what happened to precipitate this change, just that there's no evidence of conflict/violence etc.
Well you learn something new every day...  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
BrightonRed
Offline
Posts: 1126
|
|
« Reply #8353 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 13:53:53 » |
|
Those beaker folk, coming over here.....
What's wrong with just cupping up the water in your hands? And licking it up like a cat? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol...
|
|
|
jayohaitchenn
Wielder of the BANHAMMER
Offline
Posts: 12780
|
|
« Reply #8354 on: Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 14:27:12 » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
