Let's Get Political!

[Arriba]

I know a literal astrophysicist that does this, somebody that I know to be a strong debater on certain other topics. He's even endorsed Daily Mail articles despite disregarding the DM as untrustworthy when cited in other, non-political discussions.

When it suits then I suppose.

 It's the same with the anti semitic smears. Corbyn has fought their corner his entire political career. Now he's called anti Jewish and bigoted towards them. Utter lies.

[Mister Lorenzo]

Nice balanced forum as ever I see......

Now then brothers, one out all out!!

[pauld]

Nice balanced forum as ever I see......

Now then brothers, one out all out!!

Maybe you could contribute to the thread then and provide that balance?

[horlock07]

When it suits then I suppose.

 It's the same with the anti semitic smears. Corbyn has fought their corner his entire political career. Now he's called anti Jewish and bigoted towards them. Utter lies.

Its been over egged, however he does seem to have a bloody great blind spot regarding the issue in the party and also an unfortunately habit of finding himself endorsing or at least not condoning some dodgy stuff, too many things have been put down to him being unfortunate or being accidentally in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Both parties have these issues with parts of their wider membership, Islam for the blue lot and Judaism for the red team, however it does sum up the media when one compares Corbyn with some of the racist and homophobic stuff Johnson has come out with which is barely mentioned in the media.

[pauld]

Superb. The Tories have apparently decided on #BritainDeservesBetter as their election hashtag. You've been in power for the past 9 years, you fucking idiots.

[4D]

I think they missed "opposition" off the end 

[pauld]

I think they missed "opposition" off the end 

Well they've been missing "government" since the start so maybe. They're right though, Britain does indeed deserve better than that bunch of lying self-serving charlatans.

[4D]

All parties can fall into that category. It's why I hate politics

[mystical_goat]

he does seem to have a bloody great blind spot regarding the issue in the party

How?

[pauld]

All parties can fall into that category. It's why I hate politics

To some extent. But Johnson is out in a category all of his own, perhaps shared with Trump.

[pauld]

How?

Until Labour and it's supporters are prepared to admit that it has a problem with anti-Semitism instead of continually sticking their heads in the sand and denying there's an issue, you're going to continue to be dogged by this issue. The Jewish Labour Movement, Louise Ellman, Luciana Berger etc etc etc can't all be dismissed as being right wing trolls. As a party you have a problem, you need to confront it and be seen to be doing so. Denial isn't helping you.

[Abrahammer]

Agreed, the Corbynista’s on here back your point up completely.

The issue isn’t completely a media made up one, there is a real issue that has failed to be dealt with time and time again

[Arriba]

Until Labour and it's supporters are prepared to admit that it has a problem with anti-Semitism instead of continually sticking their heads in the sand and denying there's an issue, you're going to continue to be dogged by this issue. The Jewish Labour Movement, Louise Ellman, Luciana Berger etc etc etc can't all be dismissed as being right wing trolls. As a party you have a problem, you need to confront it and be seen to be doing so. Denial isn't helping you.

Don't you think it's been blown out of all proportion? Any anti semitism is very few people and no more than its ever been. This is all stemmed from Israeli supporters due the criticism of their regime, which was then twisted into anti semitism. Why on earth would Labour be a party of anti semitism? It just doesn't add up.

[Flashheart]

I even think that's bullshit:

Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party

The Home Affairs Select Committee held an inquiry into antisemitism in the United Kingdom in the same year and found "no reliable, empirical evidence to support the notion that there is a higher prevalence of antisemitic attitudes within the Labour Party than any other political party

I see lots of claims that there Labour has more of a problem than any other party - but no evidence.

Until somebody does provide evidence - I will just disregard it as yet another example of the press doing what they can to smear Corbyn. Successfully so. He gets criticised for not tackling a problem that appears to be fabricated and, when he does take action (which he does), it gets ignored.

[horlock07]

How you all surviving out there, I recall that it we didn't leave the EU today we were assured that there would be riots and Britain would explode?

Keep safe people!