Let's Get Political!

[Batch]

may has given you a version of leave.

don't like it, suck it up buttercup, it's what you voted for

[horlock07]

Its now being suggested that she cannot pull the vote unless parliament votes to pull the vote - no really!  

In case there were any misconceptions that she is still in any manner of control...

No 10 said this morning

- vote not being pulled - now it’s being pulled
- PM confident of winning vote - clearly not
- no PM statement today - now there is one

If it wasn't all our futures they were playing with it would be beyond hilarious!

[Ardiles]

Oh it did, clearly on the ballot paper. Remain on daves shitty deal or leave the eu. You must have seen that?

Agree to a point.  The Leave vote was an instruction to government to leave the EU.  Government then has to find a way of doing that, and the negotiated deal is the result.

The No Deal departure that some Leave supporters are now putting forward could never be take seriously by any government.  Most (on both sides of the debate) can see the reasons for this.

The 'elephant in the room' is that the negotiation was never going to be a negotiation.  It was always going to be an exercise in the UK agreeing to the terms put forward by its much larger neighbour.  That's not because Theresa May is a Remainer or a weak leader (although she is both).  It's because when you 'negotiate' with someone who's 8 or 9 times bigger than you are, you won't get much of a say in the final outcome.  And committed Leaver would have fared no better.  A lot of us realised this at the very outset...which is why there is a lot of face palm around today.

Call it realpolitik if you want.  Like it or not, we have to have a close relationship with other European countries - and it's foolish to pretend otherwise.  If we do leave the EU, the inevitable consequence is that the UK will become a rule taker...at least for as long as the EU remains a coherent political entity.  There are strains there, certainly.  But it's there for now.

[Batch]

Its now being suggested that she cannot pull the vote unless parliament votes to pull the vote - no really! 

Very funny Horlock, 6/10, must try harder.

[REDBUCK]

Its now being suggested that she cannot pull the vote unless parliament votes to pull the vote - no really! 

In case there were any misconceptions that she is still in any manner of control...

No 10 said this morning

- vote not being pulled - now it’s being pulled
- PM confident of winning vote - clearly not
- no PM statement today - now there is one

If it wasn't all our futures they were playing with it would be beyond hilarious!

It's not as if this political misinformation is new

1. There are WMD - There weren't any
2. We aren't leaving the IMF - We crashed out
3. Boom and Bust is over - It wasn't
4. We won't introduce student fees - They were.

As an Irish comedian once said - There's more

[pauld]

may has given you a version of leave.

don't like it, suck it up buttercup, it's what you voted for

Or "You won, get over it" perhaps?

[horlock07]

Very funny Horlock, 6/10, must try harder.

Don't Blame me, see https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1072121925227438080

It's not as if this political misinformation is new

1. There are WMD - There weren't any
2. We aren't leaving the IMF - We crashed out
3. Boom and Bust is over - It wasn't
4. We won't introduce student fees - They were.

As an Irish comedian once said - There's more

Although those you rightly mention did not collapse merely in a couple of hours!

[horlock07]

Dennis Skinner really has become a sad caricature of himself.

[RedRag]

Oh it did, clearly on the ballot paper. Remain on daves shitty deal or leave the eu. You must have seen that?

The vote was as follows:

48% are united in wanting to remain as a member of the EU

runners up wanting to leave EU membership:-

a few percent want no deal,
a few percent Norway,
a few percent Norway plus,
a few percent want Turkey
a few percent want Switzerland,
a few percent Canada
a few percent Canada Plus
a few percent want cake and
a few percent want unicorns

There are 52 ways to leave but no unity on which way:

You just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

[horlock07]

So now no.10 now saying that there will be no vote to delay the vote which is rather contrary to the Speakers advice?

[Ardiles]

Today will forever be remembered not as the day that Theresa May delayed the vote on her Brexit deal, but as the day she openly discussed premature ejaculation in the chamber of the House of Commons.

Stay strong, people.  It can get no worse than this.

[Pax Romana]

  It can get no worse than this.

If only that were true

[Matchworn Shirts]

Putting this off because she doesn't like the (expected) outcome is somewhat like us saying, nah we don't think we will beat Grimsby on Saturday, can't we play them some other time?

[Legends-Lounge]

Putting this off because she doesn't like the (expected) outcome is somewhat like us saying, nah we don't think we will beat Grimsby on Saturday, can't we play them some other time?

🤔 Looks suspiciously like the remain 48% asking for a rerun because the result was not what they wanted/expected. Hardly surprising this was likely to be kicked into touch. So many differing factions in the HOC on all sides with their own ideas as to what the Brexit deal should look like, combined with a pro remain PM, cabinet and Whitehall mandarins it has been exposed as a remain deal shoddily dressed up to look like a leave deal.

[Batch]

this is what you voted for