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« Reply #855 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 07:47:44 »

And one more thing...charisma does matter.

Its worse than that. Boris Johnson has built a entire political career off of the back of mad hair.

That's not to say behind the bumbling buffoon there isn't an intelligent man, more that I doubt this influenced him becoming mayor of London anywhere near as much as his hair did.
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« Reply #856 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 07:58:20 »

BJ has played a blinder during his career. He'll win the next general election at a canter, if the Tory's select him as next leader, though he may end up losing his one Scottish MP, as he's very anti Scottish.

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« Reply #857 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 08:20:13 »

It is weird the way that some people (Reagan, Clinton, Boris) are viewed with affection and are forgiven for every mistake and lie.  "Oh that's just Boris being Boris" is said with a smile almost like a doting grandparent.

Others get lacerated for just one misjudgement or poor choice of words.

If we could bottle and sell it we could clear the national debt in a weekend.
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« Reply #858 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 08:21:09 »

The power of being a likeable individual, like you're actually deep down not that nice a person.
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« Reply #859 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 09:40:00 »

Now that the hype, claim, counter claim, spin, sounds bites and propaganda has more or less calmed down there is one fundamental fact that EVERYONE has to accept and abide by. The people have spoken. You'll get your chance in five years to decide again.

Of course I expect the bitter socialists on here will try to shout down my reasoned and true statement in some way, mainly by saying the government won't last that long, however, as it is that is wishful thinking and guess work. As it stands it's five years, deal with it.

You will of course have an opportunity in two years to get excited again with the referendum on our EU position. Save yourselves for that. For those of you undecided about our membership under the current "rules" it is worth noting that my son who us currently on Erasmus in Germany till July said that the German media and by default government (though they'd not openly admit it) were rooting for a Labour win. I wonder why. Here's a clue ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££.

Junker seems to have changed his stance since Friday morning too, two faced beaurocratic unelected communist shyte.
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« Reply #860 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 10:50:35 »

Now that the hype, claim, counter claim, spin, sounds bites and propaganda has more or less calmed down there is one fundamental fact that EVERYONE has to accept and abide by. The people have spoken. You'll get your chance in five years to decide again.

Of course I expect the bitter socialists on here will try to shout down my reasoned and true statement in some way, mainly by saying the government won't last that long, however, as it is that is wishful thinking and guess work. As it stands it's five years, deal with it.

You will of course have an opportunity in two years to get excited again with the referendum on our EU position. Save yourselves for that. For those of you undecided about our membership under the current "rules" it is worth noting that my son who us currently on Erasmus in Germany till July said that the German media and by default government (though they'd not openly admit it) were rooting for a Labour win. I wonder why. Here's a clue ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££.

Junker seems to have changed his stance since Friday morning too, two faced beaurocratic unelected communist shyte.

bureaucratic, it's bureaucratic

Harold Wilson famously said a week is a long time in politics, so 5 years is even longer. The people have spoken, but in a sense no-one listens, as the present voting system enables.
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« Reply #861 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 10:59:31 »

The people have spoken. You'll get your chance in five years to decide again.

Now that the hype, claim, counter claim, spin, sounds bites and propaganda has more or less calmed down there is one fundamental fact that EVERYONE has to accept and abide by. The people have spoken. You'll get your chance in five years to decide again.

Of course I expect the bitter socialists on here will try to shout down my reasoned and true statement in some way, mainly by saying the government won't last that long, however, as it is that is wishful thinking and guess work. As it stands it's five years, deal with it.

You will of course have an opportunity in two years to get excited again with the referendum on our EU position. Save yourselves for that. For those of you undecided about our membership under the current "rules" it is worth noting that my son who us currently on Erasmus in Germany till July said that the German media and by default government (though they'd not openly admit it) were rooting for a Labour win. I wonder why. Here's a clue ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££.

Junker seems to have changed his stance since Friday morning too, two faced beaurocratic unelected communist shyte.

63.1% of the people did not vote Conservative.  The people have indeed spoken, but our electoral system ensures they are ignored.
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« Reply #862 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:32:00 »

63.1% of the people did not vote Conservative.  The people have indeed spoken, but our electoral system ensures they are ignored.

I believe a similar figure kept labour in clover. The system is the system FPTP. You won't hear the sweaty socks moaning will you? You have five years to brood. Of course when your taxes start to fall I'm sure all you conscious socialists will hand it back to the treasury ...........
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« Reply #863 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:37:31 »

bureaucratic, it's bureaucratic

Harold Wilson famously said a week is a long time in politics, so 5 years is even longer. The people have spoken, but in a sense no-one listens, as the present voting system enables.
yeah yeah  Fishing.
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« Reply #864 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:40:18 »

I believe a similar figure kept labour in clover. The system is the system FPTP. You won't hear the sweaty socks moaning will you? You have five years to brood. Of course when your taxes start to fall I'm sure all you conscious socialists will hand it back to the treasury ...........

It was wrong when it put Labour in power, too.
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« Reply #865 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:41:21 »

Under pure PR we'd have a Tory/UKIP coalition passing 50% of the vote so be careful what you wish for. My thoughts on the electoral system are already in this thread, but the people did not vote for a socialist utopia only to be ignored, I'm afraid.
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« Reply #866 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:44:43 »

Under pure PR we'd have a Tory/UKIP coalition passing 50% of the vote so be careful what you wish for. My thoughts on the electoral system are already in this thread, but the people did not vote for a socialist utopia only to be ignored, I'm afraid.

On Thursday's votes yes. However if PR had been used perhaps the general public wouldn't have voted in the same way. I think it's too simplistic to say if PR was used we'd have 'this or that'.
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« Reply #867 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:47:03 »

On Thursday's votes yes. However if PR had been used perhaps the general public wouldn't have voted in the same way. I think it's too simplistic to say if PR was used we'd have 'this or that'.

Exactly that, I know a few who altered their voting to one of the big 2 rather than a smaller party ( greens/ukip ) as seen as a wasted vote.
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« Reply #868 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:49:24 »

Pro Labour supporters wouldn't be complaining about the voting system if they had got in..  It's only when the other people get in that the voting system is corrupt, wouldn't be getting a mention otherwise..
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« Reply #869 on: Sunday, May 10, 2015, 11:52:19 »

Pro Labour supporters wouldn't be complaining about the voting system if they had got in..  It's only when the other people get in that the voting system is corrupt, wouldn't be getting a mention otherwise..

Have heard more complaints from the smaller party supporters than labour
SNPs 7% for 56 seats is a pisstake compared to the amount the Greens/Ukip polled for their single seat each
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