Let's Get Political!

[Arriba]

Not having extreme political leanings. I'd have thought you'd have been clever enough to work that out? My mistake.

Define what you perceive as "extreme political leanings" please. I ask because what you think is extreme someone else may not.

[Bob's Orange]

He was either absolutely plastered last night or I genuinely think Hobodan might actually have issues (no shit sherlock!). Looking back on his earlier posts he came across relatively pleasant. Decent football conversation and even showed a passion in photography. This appeared to change after some terror incidents, the EU vote and the general election during the political thread which over the last 4 years or so has become absolutely toxic at times. Hobodan did admit to going to not having anyone to go to football with before so perhaps is very lonely and has been indoctrinated by propoganda on the web. Either that or he's just a very bored troll. There is an anxiety thread specifically for that Hobodan, talk it out, don't just hate everything and become abusive.

Discussion of political matters quickly turns to abuse and then become a slanging match between the 'lefties/antifa' and the 'nazis' and to be quite honest is absolutely pathetic. People can have left political views without being a violent raging anarchist and likewise someone with right political views aren't the spawn of hitler. Choosing to abuse, rather than engage in discussion is dividing society.

[chalkies shorts]

Discussion of political matters quickly turns to abuse and then become a slanging match between the 'lefties/antifa' and the 'nazis' and to be quite honest is absolutely pathetic. People can have left political views without being a violent raging anarchist and likewise someone with right political views aren't the spawn of hitler. Choosing to abuse, rather than engage in discussion is dividing society.

Perfectly summed up. Having a different opinion is not an offence. You can respect others views and disagree.

[Nemo]

Perfectly summed up. Having a different opinion is not an offence. You can respect others views and disagree.

Agree entirely, but the last few pages of this thread have seen a poster openly expressing that he is a Nazi or pretending to be one for trolling purposes. There's no parallel to be drawn between that and expressing mainstream right or even hard right views, and the fact he's not been banned yet is a shame on the forum. This isn't a "change his avatar and call him a prick" situation, this is a "ban him, ban his IP and ban any sock puppet accounts he has" thing.

[Flashheart]

You can respect others views and disagree.

I cannot respect the views being spouted by this tool. If you do respect them then frankly you need to have a word with yourself.

One can respect somebody's *right* to say what they want, but not what they actually say.

Not directed at you, Chalky, but too many people seem to think the right to expressing an opinion protects them from criticism and/or the potential consequences. It doesn't work like that. It would be extremely hypocritical to say everybody can say what they want but people are not allowed to respond to other peoples' comments as they see fit.

"It's just my opinion" is not a valid excuse for being a twat. That it is their opinion is the entire fucking problem.

If I were still an admin I'd have booted the cunt by now. Even if he is just trolling (which I suspect he is). But I'm not so that's somebody else's problem now.

[Bennett]

Agree entirely, but the last few pages of this thread have seen a poster openly expressing that he is a Nazi or pretending to be one for trolling purposes. There's no parallel to be drawn between that and expressing mainstream right or even hard right views, and the fact he's not been banned yet is a shame on the forum. This isn't a "change his avatar and call him a prick" situation, this is a "ban him, ban his IP and ban any sock puppet accounts he has" thing.

+1

[Peter Venkman]

If I were still an admin I'd have booted the cunt by now. Even if he is just trolling (which I suspect he is). But I'm not so that's somebody else's problem now.

He may have some issues mentally.

[Barry Scott]

Re: hobodan

In our defence (as mods) it's quite difficult to stay on top of what's going on in all threads without reading every post.

I'm not sure what's been said or done and unless people use the report function, sometimes some of us would never know what's happened.

Give us a heads up when you see issues please (using the "report to moderator" function in the bottom right of each post) and it gives us a chance to do something. Thanks  

[Tails]

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/members/hobodan.42438/#about

Handsome chap!

[Chunkyhair]

Re: hobodan

In our defence (as mods) it's quite difficult to stay on top of what's going on in all threads without reading every post.

I'm not sure what's been said or done and unless people use the report function, sometimes some of us would never know what's happened.

Give us a heads up when you see issues please (using the "report to moderator" function in the bottom right of each post) and it gives us a chance to do something. Thanks  

My apologies - I should have just done that sooner and saved myself a lot of grief.  I will plead ignorance re report function (OK, piss poor excuse  ) and thanks for the pointer/reminder 

[chalkies shorts]

The EU are looking to harmonise tax rates across the EU. The EU only appear to have one approach, more EU.

[RobertT]

The EU are looking to harmonise tax rates across the EU. The EU only appear to have one approach, more EU.

Hardly surprising, it is one of the stated aims from the original Rome Treaty.  Just because our Country were clearly too lay to read the thing before joining it's not a stick to beat the club with, they are just doing what they openly state they want to do - closer political, economic and social cohesion, a way of breaking down the causes of the previous World Wars.

[Legends-Lounge]

The EU are looking to harmonise tax rates across the EU. The EU only appear to have one approach, more EU.

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey. As I have said before, (financial minds far beyond my level of understanding have said exactly the same) they need to harmonise ALL tax rates, what can and cannot be taxed, ALL spending on everything to underpin the €, a one size fits all. Just like a sovereign country would do. As it stands the the German banks, sorry, ECB cannot go on printing money and buying up debt like there is no tomorrow without seriously undermining the € &  EU project, which as we now know is a federal United States of Europe. There will at some point sovereign nations will be in name only. If it works for them, well done, however, I fear there will be massive civil unrest, particularly in the poorer Mediterranean countries and Italy too, which has debt to GDP of a third world country, with seemingly no way out.

[horlock07]

The EU are looking to harmonise tax rates across the EU. The EU only appear to have one approach, more EU.

Does it matter, we are not in the EU...

Sent from my SM-A125F

[chalkies shorts]

Does it matter, we are not in the EU...

Sent from my SM-A125F

It probably matters as much as anyone quoting what we have missed by leaving