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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 11:35:59 »

I seem to remember a few people having a right moan about the players we signed in the closed season. Outraged that we'd signed someone that had spent time playing for Mansfield (having got confused between a tiny lower league Cheshire club and a tiny lower league Nottinghamshire club).

Now people are saying he's one of the finds of the season, and I don't see anyone's hand gong up to admit they were wrong.


Harry Agombar hasnt even played a game for us.

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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 12:37:05 »

Not sure why there seems to be this idea that we are a 'big' club comes from....
 
We are a team that yo yo's between the third and fourth divisions in recent times on crowds of around 7.5k. We struggle to balance the books and are a selling club.  We cannot afford a pricey manager and are still trying to balance the books.

Don't know where it comes from but sometimes it's all a bit Leeds.
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 12:47:14 »

Not sure why there seems to be this idea that we are a 'big' club comes from....
 
We are a team that yo yo's between the third and fourth divisions in recent times on crowds of around 7.5k. We struggle to balance the books and are a selling club.  We cannot afford a pricey manager and are still trying to balance the books.

Don't know where it comes from but sometimes it's all a bit Leeds.

I don't think there's many that see us as a big club, but in the very recent past ie this year and last year Cooper has been competing for jobs at basket case non league clubs like Kettering and Telford...do either still currently exist? Then based on very little he's good enough for us...Barnet for example have Edgar Davids, whilst being a non league club, I'm not saying Davids should be here, but it does show, you can pick up "names" if they want to start off somewhere down the pyramid.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 12:58:20 »

I don't think there's many that see us as a big club, but in the very recent past ie this year and last year Cooper has been competing for jobs at basket case non league clubs like Kettering and Telford...do either still currently exist? Then based on very little he's good enough for us...Barnet for example have Edgar Davids, whilst being a non league club, I'm not saying Davids should be here, but it does show, you can pick up "names" if they want to start off somewhere down the pyramid.

Hadn't Di Canio just been overlooked for the Newport job when we appointed him?
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:23:45 »

Harry Agombar hasnt even played a game for us.



It's quite obvious who he means but you know that.
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:26:49 »

Hadn't Di Canio just been overlooked for the Newport job when we appointed him?

It was rumoured that he'd had some contact with Newport...which just emphasises my point that even in our current austerity condition, we should be capable of attracting someone better than Cooper.
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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:33:56 »

It's quite obvious who he means but you know that.
I'm not sure that he did
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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:41:45 »

It's quite obvious who he means but you know that.

Lumps posted was directly aimed at me for a post I made.
If you use the search function you can easily find out that, my post in question was in a thread that mentioned Harris from Wimbledon and Agombar - it's even the thread in which the Agombar video was posted.
So, my original post was in reference to Agombar.

...but...lets not let details get in the way...80% bollocks...
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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:47:50 »

Oh woops! I should've known he was talking about you and only you when he said and I quote: "a few people" and then continued on to clearly make reference to Yaser Kasim being a great find.
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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 13:50:48 »

The reference to typing Mansfield instead of Macclesfield is clearly directed at me, as I made that mistake in the post Lumps is talking about...
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 15:36:35 »

you didn't? fucking brilliant
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« Reply #41 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 16:26:47 »

I don't think there's many that see us as a big club, but in the very recent past ie this year and last year Cooper has been competing for jobs at basket case non league clubs like Kettering and Telford...do either still currently exist? Then based on very little he's good enough for us...Barnet for example have Edgar Davids, whilst being a non league club, I'm not saying Davids should be here, but it does show, you can pick up "names" if they want to start off somewhere down the pyramid.

And a lot of good the big named Edgar Davids did for Barnet!!

I don't want a big name - I want a decent manager and am prepared to give Cooper time to prove it (or not)
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« Reply #42 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 18:58:23 »

And a lot of good the big named Edgar Davids did for Barnet!!

I don't want a big name - I want a decent manager and am prepared to give Cooper time to prove it (or not)

How many games do you consider time?

It just seems to me that if you're looking to develop young players to play sexy football, then the chances are someone like Davids, who was developed through the Ajax system and played for Barcelona might know a bit more about it than Cooper, who as far as anybody knows, has next to no experience of player development.
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« Reply #43 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 19:27:11 »

Time for a first post & why not jump right into the middle of a minor bicker.

There's a massive difference between being a player that was developed, and developing players. Where is it written that a top player will make a top coach? There's good reason to think that they have other problems - it must be awkward training players that are going to have much less potential, and ability than you yourself did - are you going to be able to relate as well to them?

People constantly refer to the success that we had with Macari & Ardiles - quite so, but both flopped elsewhere so you'd be hard pressed to say they were successes overall as managers. Yep I've excluded Hoddle as he clearly was a success, but Dave MacKay was both before my time & a disaster too & although McMahon won a title with us he was hardly a resounding success.
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« Reply #44 on: Sunday, August 25, 2013, 19:28:13 »

Fucking noob
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