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« Reply #1 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 06:38:57 » |
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Load of old tripe to justify the cheap option.
Cooper may do OK, or not, but we could surely have attracted a more proven candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 07:15:36 » |
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I don't think Sam is ever liable to rock the boat again which is a shame really. That BBC Wilts reporter who dived straight in with the 'cheapest option' question at the press conference was superb.
Clive King (RIP) is probably turning in his grave at the state of modern journalism.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 07:35:10 » |
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He has the temperament to nurture young players through the good times and the bad and a natural resolve to keep persevering when others would quite happily pack up their bags and walk away - the fact he is manager of a Football League club today proves that. Eh? PDC is a league manager and is the polar opposite of all those things, it proves nothing. Sam's little write ups have less steel than a cucumber. I agree with Batch in that he may be good he may not but these comments are utter gash.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 07:37:21 » |
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Good piece and it highlights the fact that our most successful, recent(ish) managers have all had little, or no management experience: Macari; Ardiles; Hoddle; Muck Muck; Wise and di Canio. I can't see why the piece is 'tripe', much rather see a positive spin put on the appointment instead of looking for negatives. Just because he's the cheap option (I don't know how much he's on, or the going rate for a lower league manager) doesn't mean he's the wrong option.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 07:53:42 » |
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Good piece and it highlights the fact that our most successful, recent(ish) managers have all had little, or no management experience: Macari; Ardiles; Hoddle; Muck Muck; Wise and di Canio. I can't see why the piece is 'tripe', much rather see a positive spin put on the appointment instead of looking for negatives. Just because he's the cheap option (I don't know how much he's on, or the going rate for a lower league manager) doesn't mean he's the wrong option.
Quit with your reasoning and sensibility.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:00:50 » |
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Quit with your reasoning and sensibility.
Sorry.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:01:03 » |
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Reputation does matter. To those sat in the stands at least. An ex top player or proven capable manager will always get more patience from supporters. That said when the squad and style of play has been decided I'd hope fans will lay off Cooper if things don't go great.
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:01:50 » |
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Don't think I've ever wanted a manager to do well as much as I do with Cooper, and for so many reasons.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:06:06 » |
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Of those managers all had International playing experience with the exception of PDC and all had top flight experience either just in the UK or also abroad, that's a good start. Now, that doesn't mean you're on a banker from the start but all those 'names' were all successful with us and many went on to manage bigger clubs. Also, those managers had either just finished playing or in the majority were still playing which I think had an influence to style and thoughts. If you want to offer a defence to the appointment and Sam's text then I would use the fact that experienced managers are not always the best ones rather than using some of the most successful 'unexperienced' managers we've had to defend his appointment, use Hart for example Saying he's inexperienced mind he's had 9 years on and off being a manger, starting in 2004 with Tamworth. Not experienced in league football though. Know one knows whether he's the right man or not but he's not got a great background either as a player or manager, he may be the next Wenger though...
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:14:58 » |
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Mark Cooper ffs.
I want the bloke to do well but come on, it's about as underwhelming an appointment as we could of made.
Morshead doesn't want to say anything even slightly controversial, don't really blame him, but it makes for boring and garbage articles like this one.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:15:36 » |
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Don't think I've ever wanted a manager to do well as much as I do with Cooper, and for so many reasons.
My thoughts exactly, it would be so sweet if we were in the top five at Xmas.
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:16:46 » |
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My thoughts exactly, it would be so sweet if we were in the top five at Xmas.
Like Tranmere last season?
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:19:21 » |
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Like Tranmere last season?
Your point being? Tranmere finished comfortably mid table, would you not be happy with that come the end if the season? Most people have us nailed on certainties for relegation.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, August 24, 2013, 08:19:53 » |
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Of those managers all had International playing experience with the exception of PDC and all had top flight experience either just in the UK or also abroad, that's a good start. Now, that doesn't mean you're on a banker from the start but all those 'names' were all successful with us and many went on to manage bigger clubs. Also, those managers had either just finished playing or in the majority were still playing which I think had an influence to style and thoughts. If you want to offer a defence to the appointment and Sam's text then I would use the fact that experienced managers are not always the best ones rather than using some of the most successful 'unexperienced' managers we've had to defend his appointment, use Hart for example  Know one knows whether he's the right man or not but he's not got a great background either as a player or manager, he may be the next Wenger though... For every successful player who goes on to have a successful managerial career, there are many more who fail miserably. You can't equate one with the other. How many Premier League Managers were top flight, quality players? Moyes? Mourinho? Wenger? Allardyce? I agree that experienced managers are not always the best option, just as untried, inexperienced managers are not always the worst. That's why appointing a manager isn't an exact science. He may turn out shit, he may turn out great, he may turn out mediocre, I'm not in a position to make a judgement after 4 games. His CV is mixed as a manager, but some managers 'click' at particular clubs and not at others. Like I have with all previous managers, I hope he's successful and will give him time to show what he can do.
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