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« Reply #90 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 21:59:14 »

He did say 5.  4 is palatable, 5 is indigestible
and 6 would make be spontaneously combust
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« Reply #91 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:00:30 »

I certainly complained about Hutchinson and I gave Cuthbert a right bitching last season at Orient. Its a good point but we had signed other players from other clubs. I know we've signed Smith from Fulham but it all seems a bit insestuous to me and I don't think we're finished yet.  

And a Portuguese cousin of Misun.  We can't take anymore loans from them, so if they want to sell players on the cheap to us and run the risk of us having new owners with new ideas in a year willing to challenge historical gentleman's agreements about contracts, they are as crazy as we are.
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« Reply #92 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:01:12 »

and 6 would make be spontaneously combust

Izz just a wafffer fin mint.
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« Reply #93 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:03:08 »

and 6 would make be spontaneously combust

 Popcorn
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« Reply #94 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:04:55 »

And a Portuguese cousin of Misun.  We can't take anymore loans from them, so if they want to sell players on the cheap to us and run the risk of us having new owners with new ideas in a year willing to challenge historical gentleman's agreements about contracts, they are as crazy as we are.
We can take 2 more as we've signed 3 and got 2 on loan. the max from any 1 club is 4, so 2 to go as well as any permanent signings.
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« Reply #95 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:47:08 »

Was there as much hysteria when Fitton announced we had official relationships with Man City, and a less official (it might have been official?) one with Celtic?  Did we not have a bunch of Celtic loanees and perm signings in the same squad at one point?  I know the Man City one has to be one of the worst official links ever, but everyone seemed happy with the professional approach being taken by Fitton and the potential it gave us - or maybe my memory is getting worse.

In fact, the new board seem to be using the Fitton Guide to Being a Football Club Chairman right now:

Find new revenue streams
Invest in youth talent with future resale value
Keep costs under control
Use links with other clubs higher up the leagues to supplement point 2
Get less outgoing thoughtful and coach driven Managers in place

The big difference seems to be the starting point.  Fitton's approach seemed like a breath of fresh air following the Diamandis reign of terror.  Jed's approach seems like austerity gone mad in a way Osbourne would cherish in light of what went before with Wray and PDC.  As much as I disagree with a lot of what Reg may state, I do agree that the approach his full of risk right now because it is a dramatic change and having the Manager walk out is a big spanner in the works.

I don't think any hysteria was coming from those raising concerns, in fact quite the opposite.

I've supported the club for more years than most on here have been alive and to my knowledge, this is the first time the prospect of us becoming a feeder club of any sort for anyone has been even suggested.

Thats cause for concern in my book, even if it is only a remote possibility. Its not about the number of loanees its about the relationship.

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« Reply #96 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:53:50 »

We can take 2 more as we've signed 3 and got 2 on loan. the max from any 1 club is 4, so 2 to go as well as any permanent signings.

3- hall, luongo, pritchard on loan.

just to understand, is everyone who is against the spurs players joining on loan against having ferdinand/sherwood as manager? at what point is the tipping point and would you stop going?
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« Reply #97 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:59:54 »

Do you reckon Supermarine fans have the same problem with taking players from us?? They must be furious,no wonder their crowds are so low.
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« Reply #98 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 23:02:03 »

Did you complain when we got Ferry, Caddis, Cuthbert and Hutchinson from Celtic?

They were never all here at the same time were they?

Plus Caddis and Cuthbert were permanent signings. Which, to me anyway makes a whole world of difference because we have no obligation (which we may not have with Spurs anyway)  but we've had loan players with those arrangements before.
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« Reply #99 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 23:06:55 »

3- hall, luongo, pritchard on loan.

just to understand, is everyone who is against the spurs players joining on loan against having ferdinand/sherwood as manager? at what point is the tipping point and would you stop going?

Personally I'm against a situation where we are obliged to play the Spurs youngsters and are not allowed to shop else where for loan players or even permanent signings.

Whether our current agreement creates that situation or not I don't know.
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« Reply #100 on: Monday, July 15, 2013, 23:22:26 »

Personally I'm against a situation where we are obliged to play the Spurs youngsters and are not allowed to shop else where for loan players or even permanent signings.

Whether our current agreement creates that situation or not I don't know.

id be pissed off if any club forced us to play their loan player. people should only play if they are good enough. the assumptions going around are all without merit. if kmac was still in charge this would not be discussed, the assumption is that he quit because he was forced to take spurs players on loan and play them. i thought it was on record last season that kmac said tottenham had the best performing youngsters and he has watched them closely. the fact that ferdinand apparantly applied and missed out on the job last time makes me think he will get it. in which case this forum will go into meltdown and the spurs takeover completed
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« Reply #101 on: Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 00:04:21 »

The big difference seems to be the starting point.  Fitton's approach seemed like a breath of fresh air following the Diamandis reign of terror.  Jed's approach seems like austerity gone mad in a way Osbourne would cherish in light of what went before with Wray and PDC.

That's a very good point. Maybe the Diamandis era would be a better point of comparison for assessing what we have now.

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« Reply #102 on: Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 00:09:03 »

Oh, and didn't Reg coin the Happy Clapper thing for me back in 2005?  If so, fuck off all you other pretenders.  If not, I have ego issues.

It was your insistence on the likely beatification of Andy King, and the canonisation of Mike Diamandis that did it. There's a few on here who hold out hopes for their man, because of Lee Power's ROI U 21 caps...but the boy has a long way to go before acceptance into the heavenly host of the Catholic Church
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« Reply #103 on: Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 06:09:08 »

We can take 2 more as we've signed 3 and got 2 on loan. the max from any 1 club is 4, so 2 to go as well as any permanent signings.

3 (4) more, we can take 4 loans + 1 youth loan from one club (+ emergency loan keeper).  A max of 5 loanees can then be part of a match day squad.
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« Reply #104 on: Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 08:11:20 »

As the likelihood of Sir Les increases, it is possible to see the logic here. Power's mate Sherwood fires Les a stream of kids for them to get experience, and a safety net for those not good enough at the ends of contracts. We get a guaranteed source of players relatively cheaply....finders fees etc can be included all round. Of course all this has to be conducted within the rules, as Watford did last season.

Sir Les gets a break in management, so may be prepared to put up with the interference....if it works out his CV is enhanced and he gets a bigger club.

It hasn't happened yet, but will make for an interesting debate if it does, so let's see.
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