What's right with football?

[Bob's Orange]

It was done on the quiet but I think Islam Feruz was released by Chelsea last month.

They'll be regretting that now  

A future LS guest?

To be fair his story will be really interesting, a kid from an African heritage growing up in Scotland, getting your football education at Celtic etc.

[Private Fraser]

Real Madrid getting stuffed at home to Ajax and Sergio Ramos’ ploy of getting booked in the first leg so he’d be sure to be available for the quarter final backfiring spectacularly. 

[mystical_goat]

That was a lovely cherry on the top. Ajax were superb. Enjoyed Man U's comeback tonight too. The Champions League is so good once it gets past the groups.

[Batch]

United a tad fortunate there. But great drama!

[Nemo]

If you can't enjoy a dubious injury time winner going against a team lead by Neymar and bankrolled by a human rights vacuum then I think football is not for you. I'm not sure I've stopped laughing yet.

[Bob's Orange]

Using VAR for handballs I think is a recipe for disaster. Almost every 'handball' in slow motion looks deliberate but when played at full speed looks so much more accidental.

I think the rules really need to be looked at and defined. Its a tough one for sure.

[Reg Smeeton]

If you can't enjoy a dubious injury time winner going against a team lead by Neymar and bankrolled by a human rights vacuum then I think football is not for you. I'm not sure I've stopped laughing yet.

Very good.... even I as Man U hater since the early 70's had a little laugh.

[Legends-Lounge]

Using VAR for handballs I think is a recipe for disaster. Almost every 'handball' in slow motion looks deliberate but when played at full speed looks so much more accidental.

I think the rules really need to be looked at and defined. Its a tough one for sure.

I get where you are coming from, however, I am really confidant that the VAR team and ref saw the ‘offence’ in real time as well as slow mo. FWIW the second the ball hit the player I said to my Mrs that is was penalty and PSG had a get out of jail free card on that one. The rest is now history.

[Reg Smeeton]

Using VAR for handballs I think is a recipe for disaster. Almost every 'handball' in slow motion looks deliberate but when played at full speed looks so much more accidental.

I think the rules really need to be looked at and defined. Its a tough one for sure.

The rules group, have just done that. The natural silouette thing.  In that interpretation, it's a handball, intent doesn't come into it.... Kimpembe made himself bigger and blocked the ball therefore handball.

[horlock07]

Its nice to see plucky little Man Utd getting a bit of luck against the big boys..... 

[reeves4england]

I think a lot of handballs given in the box are harsh, bordering on ridiculous, but to me it looked like Kimpembe's arm was outstretched as he faced Dalot, then he turned his back and held his arm there. Like Rag says, he made himself bigger by putting his arm out. For that reason I'd say it's a fair decision.

Neymar's come out and said "It's a disgrace. Four guys who know nothing about football watch a slow-motion replay in front of the television" which makes it even sweeter. If it had been at the other end and not been given, he'd have said the same.

[pauld]

If you can't enjoy a dubious injury time winner going against a team lead by Neymar and bankrolled by a human rights vacuum then I think football is not for you. I'm not sure I've stopped laughing yet.

Yup. Can't stand Utd, but that is what football is all about. I was listening on the radio in the car driving my eldest home from training and giving his mate a lift home on the way. We pulled up at his mate's house as the pen was given and then sat outside his house listening to it, as no way his mate was going in and missing hearing the pen being taken. Pure drama

[RobertT]

I've never understood why you don't just make it clear cut - hits your hand, foul.  Like Basketball does with feet.  If players want to wast opportunities by trying to get the ball to hit your hand, they'll more than pay for it by failing to create goal scoring opportunities - nobody goes looking to play a ball off feet in basketball.

When you play the game, every time it hits your hand or arm you think you are going to be blown-up against by the ref, that's how I always felt.  Even if you didn't mean it.

Maybe make it below the elbow only - you can't catch the ball above the elbow very easily so you have a differentiation with the role of a keeper.

[mystical_goat]

I think the handball law is easy to understand but the waters are muddied by commentators, pundits, and the odd ref.

It was an absolutely turd bit of defending from Kimpembe, something a child would do.

[RobertT]

I'm old skool.  I'd prefer the offside rule to either be abolished or enforced for anyone offside - none of this interfering, active etc.  Make it simple.