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« Reply #6450 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 15:37:49 »

Yes its usually one little (or big) thing that sets off a dislike or like.

I have a liking for West Ham for no reason other than I was brought up knowing they were the backbone of the 1966 (year I was born) World Cup winning team, and that they play football the right way.

I dont even look out for their results, I just have a soft spot for them.
I look out for QPR results because my Mum bought me a reduced Easter Egg in a QPR mug (after Easter) when I was little!
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« Reply #6451 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:12:03 »

It’s started

‘ BREAKING: The Saudi Arabian football association is in talks with UEFA about having a Saudi team in the UEFA Champions League in 2025.’
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« Reply #6452 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:15:29 »

Fuck off.
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« Reply #6453 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:20:53 »

The premier league clubs and fans will hate this.
Which makes me all for it.
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« Reply #6454 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:26:34 »

UEFA - the Union of European Football Associations. Surely for Saudi clubs to be involved in anything, the UEFA Champions League as we know it would have to be abolished and a brand new, global club tournament would have to be launched? Its a non-starter surely? That said, money seems to talk and these guys seem to have endless pots of the stuff.
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« Reply #6455 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:29:28 »

UEFA - the Union of European Football Associations. Surely for Saudi clubs to be involved in anything, the UEFA Champions League as we know it would have to be abolished and a brand new, global club tournament would have to be launched? Its a non-starter surely? That said, money seems to talk and these guys seem to have endless pots of the stuff.

Are there not already Israeli sides in both the Champions and Europa leagues?
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« Reply #6456 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:31:19 »

I see its being reported that Man Utd are planning to keep Mason Greenwood on and start a process to reintegrate him into the team and wider club (would have started at the start of this month, but delayed 'cos of women's world cup), should be an interesting watch.

Hopefully someone gives him a career ender first game back.
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« Reply #6457 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 16:32:31 »

Are there not already Israeli sides in both the Champions and Europa leagues?

Yeah I knew that would come up. Seems Israel, Turkey and Kazakhstan are outliers that are part of UEFA. So I guess its probably more feasible than I initially thought Geographically.
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« Reply #6458 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 18:06:27 »

How long before a premier league game is played in Saudi ££££
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« Reply #6459 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 21:21:29 »

Hopefully someone gives him a career ender first game back.

I think a know a Kinsella fella for the job  Evil
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« Reply #6460 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 21:49:21 »

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‘ BREAKING: The Saudi Arabian football association is in talks with UEFA about having a Saudi team in the UEFA Champions League in 2025.’

But surely they already compete in their own version of that tournament with the Asian Champions League?

I think this is probably just as much about UEFA not wanting to devalue their own tournament in the long run [plus a huge wedge of image rights and cash no doubt]. They couldn't possibly allow the ACL to become bigger than the UEFA ECL. Which could be a possibility if Saudi clubs continue to poach the biggest players and the Middle East effectively becomes the much suggested ''Super League'', if not by big clubs but by the personnel playing for them - under the guise of Saudi Clubs. Nope, UEFA would see it much better to negotiate and allow say one or two more^ clubs to join.

They also have a convenient political crutch to use too...Russia. They could easily expel [if not already done so] Russian clubs from competing and then say something like:

'...since the expelling of Russian sides in the ECL, we noticed the need for additional members. With Saudi Arabia now attracting some of the worlds best talent, formerly playing at European clubs, it aligned with the consistency and quality that maintains the integrity of our tournament as being the most competitive club tournament in the world. For that reason we have decide to allow membership of two Saudi Arabian clubs, starting from the 2025/26 season. In order to align further with this, the tournament will also be rebranded as the UEFA Champions Super League...'

On top of this, from a marketing and image rights perspective...there's a massive 400m+ catchment of people living in the Middle East...a figure one hundred million to the greater than whole of the USA - so of course UEFA are likely to tap into that from a TV rights POV. Especially whilst Saudi...and likely other Middle East countries are throwing seemingly endless pots of money around
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« Reply #6461 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 21:54:34 »

Will be interesting when the Israeli clubs get drawn against them.
Or do they swap the Israeli clubs with the Saudi ones (who offer more money)
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« Reply #6462 on: Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 21:59:38 »

You can already smell the corruption when the draw is made!
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« Reply #6463 on: Thursday, August 17, 2023, 06:56:45 »

This would have to see them comply with FFP, the four clubs owned by the state have been gifted 17 billion between them do as they please.  Either abolish FFP completely or refuse them entry if they refuse to aline. 
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« Reply #6464 on: Thursday, August 17, 2023, 12:08:50 »

Are there not already Israeli sides in both the Champions and Europa leagues?

And Eurovision!  Wink
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