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« Reply #2250 on: Monday, April 11, 2016, 15:54:43 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36017396

Be very interesting to see the details of this 'deal' - I still suspect there is legal wrangling to come....
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« Reply #2251 on: Monday, April 11, 2016, 16:01:35 »

Am I right in thinking that we're still effectively paying for the stadium from tax, meaning we would be paying for West Ham to own a new stadium?
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« Reply #2252 on: Monday, April 11, 2016, 16:03:30 »

Am I right in thinking that we're still effectively paying for the stadium from tax, meaning we would be paying for West Ham to own a new stadium?

Thats how it sounds as apparently West Ham won't be paying the staff, which I assume means that LLDC are footing the bill..... Could West Ham therefore be the first ever nationalised football team?
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« Reply #2253 on: Monday, April 11, 2016, 16:45:26 »

Am I right in thinking that we're still effectively paying for the stadium from tax, meaning we would be paying for West Ham to own a new stadium?

Yes and no.

West Ham will not own the stadium, they will have a 99 year lease, for which they pay around £2m per year in rent I believe and £15m upfront towards the refurb costs.  So in total, they will pay over £200m towards the costs over the lifetime of the lease.  Essentially it's just like us, only on a very different scale.  We could easily go to our Council and get a deal where they build a nice new set of stands for us and we pay them a decent rate on a lease to cover it.
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« Reply #2254 on: Monday, April 11, 2016, 23:29:21 »

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36020849

Urgh.
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« Reply #2255 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 05:40:26 »

love the quotes "and us TRUE fans miss out"

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« Reply #2256 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 07:26:11 »

Well I suspect the first guy can afford it, when he thinks a 2nd hand car is 15 grand, not where I shop mate!
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« Reply #2257 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 07:52:14 »

Hypothetically, you are a Swindon Town ST holder and we are in the same situation as Leicester.

You could sell your ticket for say 10k for the last home game of the season. Would you do it?
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« Reply #2258 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:06:41 »

Hypothetically, you are a Swindon Town ST holder and we are in the same situation as Leicester.

You could sell your ticket for say 10k for the last home game of the season. Would you do it?

I get the impression that a lot of ST holders would sell their ticker this season for the last game for £10
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« Reply #2259 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:21:19 »

£10 for a heart transplant, now that is reasonable
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« Reply #2260 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:32:42 »

I get the impression that a lot of ST holders would sell their ticker this season for the last game for £10

My last game this season is the Chesterfield game and I'm not renewing this season. If we play appallingly I might throw my season ticket onto the pitch at the end in disgust. That'll learn them.
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« Reply #2261 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:47:37 »


I suspect the same would happen if any team (bar the traditional big boys) were in Leicester position.

It's the culture of the ticketing market these days. People make shit load out of flogging on high demand tickets. A mate of mine sold 2 tickets for Man Utd v Barca CL final at Wembley a few years back for £3K
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« Reply #2262 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 09:19:08 »

I suspect the same would happen if any team (bar the traditional big boys) were in Leicester position.

It's the culture of the ticketing market these days. People make shit load out of flogging on high demand tickets. A mate of mine sold 2 tickets for Man Utd v Barca CL final at Wembley a few years back for £3K

Kind of makes a mockery of supporters being all haughty about being referred to as customers really!
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« Reply #2263 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 20:53:28 »

Hypothetically, you are a Swindon Town ST holder and we are in the same situation as Leicester.

You could sell your ticket for say 10k for the last home game of the season. Would you do it?

Well.. No. Although it does make more sense when you phrase it that way.
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« Reply #2264 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 23:35:26 »

Yes and no.

West Ham will not own the stadium, they will have a 99 year lease, for which they pay around £2m per year in rent I believe and £15m upfront towards the refurb costs.  So in total, they will pay over £200m towards the costs over the lifetime of the lease.  Essentially it's just like us, only on a very different scale.  We could easily go to our Council and get a deal where they build a nice new set of stands for us and we pay them a decent rate on a lease to cover it.

Speaking as an East herts council taxpayer, it's a good result to get a tenant in that's paying anything.
The alternative was for it to be empty most of the year and get used for a couple of athletics meetings, and lose xxx millions in up keep etc.

I think you'll find that the boroughs in the Lee Valley underwrote the cost of the stadia - main park and white water - so I don't think the taxpayer outside the Lee valley has to worry about anything, and therefore has no need to winge about West Ham saving me from bankrupcy
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