Whats wrong with football?

[4D]

I wonder when he started his support?  

The thread may as well be closed now.

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32112666

Its because you're a shit manager, John. Race card playing fuckwit.

And of course the article goes on to talk about the 'Rooney Rule' in the NFL which is self-defeating bollocks in my opinion. The Rooney Rule states that Clubs have to interview at least one black candidate for every Head Coach vacancy. This is inherently racist and just as bad as not employing a black Coach specifically because he is black.

[kerry red]

Quotas never work - even with best of intentions.

No matter who applies for a manager's job the club will, or at least should, pick who they believe is best for the job.

I don't believe for a minute that if there was an outstanding black candidate the club would choose not to appoint him.

I have nothing to back this up, but I reckon there are very few black candidates anyway.

[Summerof69]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32112666

Its because you're a shit manager, John. Race card playing fuckwit.

I think he should read this interview with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink :


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3017221/Louis-van-Gaal-special-bond-says-Jimmy-Floyd-Hasselbaink.html

And then try and dig out some highlights from his time at Celtic and Tranmere.

The supporters of those two clubs probably say that their highlight is the day he got the sack...

[Baggins]

Quotas never work - even with best of intentions.

No matter who applies for a manager's job the club will, or at least should, pick who they believe is best for the job.

I don't believe for a minute that if there was an outstanding black candidate the club would choose not to appoint him.

I have nothing to back this up, but I reckon there are very few black candidates anyway.

But why are there so few black candidates?  I can't believe its because black players don't want to be managers and white players do.  Nor can I believe that white people make better managers than black people.  I can only therefore conclude that there is something - and I don't know what - either cultural or systematic - that is stopping it.  The Rooney Rule is a flawed, but I think well intentioned - way to try to tackle this.  We need to keep working to identify why this inequality exists - or alternatively just allow it to continue.  I know which I prefer.

[Baggins]

And apologies - the grammar in that last post is awful.  I'm tired.

[OrangeTransits]

But why are there so few black candidates?  

Here are some figures that explain the Answer.

Firstly 2011 Race Census Figures.

Ethnic group   2011 population   2011%
White: Total   55,010,359   87.1
Gypsy/Traveller/ Irish Traveller: Total   63,193   0.1
Asian or Asian British: Indian   1,451,862   2.3
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani   1,174,983   1.9
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi   451,529   0.7
Asian or Asian British: Chinese   433,150   0.7
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian   861,815   1.4
Asian or Asian British: Total   4,373,339   6.9
Black or Black British: Total   1,904,684   3.0
Mixed Multiple: Total   1,250,229   2.0
Other Ethnic Group: Total   580,374   0.9
Total   63,182,178   100

[OrangeTransits]

So 3% of population of UK Black / Black British.

Out of 92 Clubs there are 2 black I think.

1 more and there will be 3%+ Black Managers. 2 More and there will be over 4%.

Will people be shouting there are 2 many black managers if that happens. Probably not.

[leftside]

So 3% of population of UK Black / Black British.

Out of 92 Clubs there are 2 black I think.

1 more and there will be 3%+ Black Managers. 2 More and there will be over 4%.

Will people be shouting there are 2 many black managers if that happens. Probably not.

But black professional footballers in England must be a lot greater than 3% of the total. Assuming that most coaches / managers are former professional players, then the number of current black coaches / managers is probably way down on what could be expected.

[herthab]

But black professional footballers in England must be a lot greater than 3% of the total. Assuming that most coaches / managers are former professional players, then the number of current black coaches / managers is probably way down on what could be expected.

What percentage of white British ex footballer's are professional managers?

[4D]

Percentages are ridiculous, it's not like there should be a quota of who does what.

[herthab]

Percentages are ridiculous, it's not like there should be a quota of who does what.

What percentage of posters think that percentages are ridiculous?

[4D]

Depends what percentage anewer.

[Abrahammer]

The program those quotes come from is currently on ITV4. He has spent half of it bleating on about racism and it hasn't got as far as his management career yet

[4D]

Not watching it. Who has been racist to him?