England v Italy match thread.

[Nemo]

Rooney hasn't done much in either game but there's only so much you can expect of a striker when you have 37% possession. No disgrace tonight, we just weren't good enough and that was to expected when Hodgson had six weeks to sort this out and seemingly our "impact sub" option with Jordan fucking Henderson.

[Swindon Please Win]

Rooney hasn't done much in either game but there's only so much you can expect of a striker when you have 37% possession. No disgrace tonight, we just weren't good enough and that was to expected when Hodgson had six weeks to sort this out and seemingly our "impact sub" option with Jordan fucking Henderson.

Except score the winner in his first game.

[chalkies_shorts]

He got us three points against Ukraine and faced an uphill battle tonight with little service, add to that playing alongside a pub player in Carroll.

I think you are the one who has been on the piss. Go and kiss Rooney's ringpiece he has been a cunt and we'd have been better off with pub player Carroll alongside Wellbeck.  

[carbonwhite]

  it was hardly a 30 yard scorcher was it.

[Dr Pierre Chang]

I think you are the one who has been on the piss. Go and kiss Rooney's ringpiece he has been a cunt and we'd have been better off with pub player Carroll alongside Wellbeck.  

So he didn't score the winner against Ukraine and he faced an easy task tonight?

[carbonwhite]

Think we have a few closet glory fans in here.

[chalkies_shorts]

So he didn't score the winner against Ukraine and he faced an easy task tonight?

He did score the winner against Ukraine despite playing absolute shite and effectively marking Wellbecik out of the game by making the same runs and taking his space. In the big games you're looking for your big players to step up and he has constantly failed since 2004 for England.

[thedarkprince]

He did score the winner against Ukraine despite playing absolute shite and effectively marking Wellbecik out of the game by making the same runs and taking his space. In the big games you're looking for your big players to step up and he has constantly failed since 2004 for England.

Agreed, for two club mates they seemed to have little understanding of each other's runs.

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

Except score the winner in his first game.

He had three sitters and scored one - from about 6 inches out.
I'm pretty sure the cross would have gone in anyway.

People say it's difficult if we only have 30% possession, but he still recived the ball on countless ocassions, and when he actually managed to control it, he usually gave it away straight away.

I would actually be pissed off if a pub team player gave the ball away that often.

Actually, that's a ridiculous statement..............what pub side would pick a striker who has scored one goal in 20 games

[Batch]

Rooney is our best striker in the squad, but it was obvious he was a mile off being match fit.  Problem is - don't play him then he doesn't improve his sharpness, but play him and he is largely a passenger.

On balance I'd have 1/2 fit Rooney in ahead of Defoe, besides which the way we played all three strikers were largely ineffective.

[Batch]

..............what pub side would pick a striker who has scored one goal in 20 games

In some of the pub sides I've played in that's known as a hot streak

[leefer]

Agreed, for two club mates they seemed to have little understanding of each other's runs.

Wellbeck was quality this euros.....his all round game for a youngster was outstanding.

In fact i would say Woys only mistake the whole tournament was taking him off tonight so early.

[Swindon Please Win]

He had three sitters and scored one - from about 6 inches out.
I'm pretty sure the cross would have gone in anyway.

People say it's difficult if we only have 30% possession, but he still recived the ball on countless ocassions, and when he actually managed to control it, he usually gave it away straight away.

I would actually be pissed off if a pub team player gave the ball away that often.

Actually, that's a ridiculous statement..............what pub side would pick a striker who has scored one goal in 20 games

Was at the right place at the right time.

And what else was Rooney meant to do? When your recieving constant long balls and the second you control it there are four players around you and there is only one player infront of him. The Italians did what we should of done to Pirlo, mark him out of the game.

[Berniman]

Gotta love us English.  Love nothing more than an excuse to say we are shit.  That's one of the reasons why we won't win anything.  We should save this thread as an example.

[Berniman]

Or that fucking Rooney thread I have just seen.  Jeez