The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)

[Bob's Orange]

Depends on the definition of overhaul though doesn’t it. Surely we won’t bother to waste any more time on Davison, Barry is gone and neither centre backs should be starters next season so that’s at least 4 new starters even if others stay. Then there are the fringe players where we need a real overhaul as JML, Parsons, East etc have just been filling seats on the bench not offering actual game changing options. So you’re probably looking at 8 or 9 signings at least so quite an overhaul.

That's fair. I guess it's all about your definition of overhaul. First XI as you say the 2 Centre Backs are probably going to be replaced and also Davidson and Barry. I suppose over 1/3 of your team could be defined as an overhaul. I'd personally say this season was an overhaul bearing in mind we only had 7 professionals, this pre-season is a minor tweak in comparison!!

[DiV]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Barry back for another year. There is definitely something there with him and reckon we’d see better from him if we got him for another year.

Davison I’d be ok with coming back just not as first choice / our only out and out striker.

Conroy & Baudry have done well the last few weeks. No idea if they will stay. Won’t lose any sleep if they go - won’t be spitting feather if they stay. Again wouldn’t be surprised to see JOB here again next season.

Clearly JoJo is gone and Ward is our #1

[DiV]

I mean from that the most obvious take away is I don’t think #s 1-11 has been our problem. It’s been #s 12-20 where we have fallen short…

[Shrivvy Road]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Barry back for another year. There is definitely something there with him and reckon we’d see better from him if we got him for another year.

Davison I’d be ok with coming back just not as first choice / our only out and out striker.

Conroy & Baudry have done well the last few weeks. No idea if they will stay. Won’t lose any sleep if they go - won’t be spitting feather if they stay. Again wouldn’t be surprised to see JOB here again next season.

Clearly JoJo is gone and Ward is our #1

Agree with this and your post about 12-20. Barry is someone who will benefit from coming off the bench etc, i thought last night summed up our season actually. A extra few players to bring off the bench or even starting Barry on the bench would allow us to freshen it up but we have just never been afforded that luxury this season

[DiV]

Agree with this and your post about 12-20. Barry is someone who will benefit from coming off the bench etc, i thought last night summed up our season actually. A extra few players to bring off the bench or even starting Barry on the bench would allow us to freshen it up but we have just never been afforded that luxury this season

To me Barry & Davison are two players who would have probably benefitted from having a few games out / on the bench.
Two players we would have benefitted massively by having good replacements for.

I mean this is Barry’s longest run of professional games in his young career. Best training in the world to prepare for that won’t be the same as doing it but we didn’t have any other options to rest him.

[jayohaitchenn]

I mean from that the most obvious take away is I don’t think #s 1-11 has been our problem. It’s been #s 12-20 where we have fallen short…

This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin

[Peter Venkman]

This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin

Exactly this.

[Posh Red]

This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin

This is true, but was not dissimilar to the 92/93 season where we played the same 11 for a fairly long run, and only had a fairly small squad.

Can’t imagine that it’s successful very often though

[Batch]

defense was well catered for.

midfield and particularly up top less so.

that's why it's frustrating.. so very very close

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

My guess is Wollacott, AK, Conroy, Baudry, Hunt, East, Reed, JML and Payne all leave

Williams to stay for another year with the 5 other contracted players

I think you will be very close with that mate.

The only concerns I will have if we keep the likes of East and JML on cost grounds as they are not good enough and we need some physical quality.
Lyden more than likely will be here.

All very well wanting changes, the concerns I have are reducing costs further.
We need experience that is currently lacking.

[blinkpip]

Be a bit shit if our wage budget isn't in the top 7 and we can't complete with Orient. Other teams have debts also and we almost double attendances compared.

[Batch]

East and JML on cost grounds

But they haven't featured. May as well put me and you on the bench, we'd do it for free. Unless you are suggesting  they'll be starting. Eeek
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As as aside, was it you that talked to the unusually well presented blond lady at the end of out row? I assume she was a WAG - just being nosy to know whose?!

[MangoRed]

I think you will be very close with that mate.

The only concerns I will have if we keep the likes of East and JML on cost grounds as they are not good enough and we need some physical quality.
Lyden more than likely will be here.

All very well wanting changes, the concerns I have are reducing costs further.
We need experience that is currently lacking.

The fact I’m close with it is a concern let’s be honest. Rebuilds are never good unless you’ve got a shite squad. Only 3/4 I’d keep but still, some would keep all bar JML and east.

JML and east just ain’t up to it- both given chances and failed miserably- nothing players. Happy for lyden on pay as you play as he’s a nasty midfielder what we need at times (when fit).

[Legends-Lounge]

The fact I’m close with it is a concern let’s be honest. Rebuilds are never good unless you’ve got a shite squad. Only 3/4 I’d keep but still, some would keep all bar JML and east.

JML and east just ain’t up to it- both given chances and failed miserably- nothing players. Happy for lyden on pay as you play as he’s a nasty midfielder what we need at times (when fit).

With the utmost due respect to the Duke, unless he knows 100% it is a speculative assessment. I’m all for a reduced budget as long as the recruitment is if the right quality and numbers needed. Otherwise we will be in a perpetual dog chasing tail scenario every season until we get new owners and look where that has gotten us. Clem & co have given us a tantalising glimpse into the future, be a shame to throw
it away. Be like throwing the clubs ashes into the wind.

[Pericardinho]

A lot of negativity here regarding the potential retained list.

I read somewhere we have options on a 2nd  year for Reed and Williams.

Payne did an interview in the summer where he basically said he wants to settle down at a club. He could've jumped ship back then but didn't. Things are looking better now. Think he'll stay too.

In fact, the only one I'd say with a degree of certainty that will leave is JoJo.

Regardless, we need to sign a couple of players in the Jordan Lyden / Anthony Grant mould. Last night was no good. Reminded me of Arsenal under Wenger. Lots of technicians but nobody to win the ball back to give it to them.