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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:24:50 »

As I've already said elsewhere, goals against are happening because we stand off our opponents too much as a team.

They're guilty of that in pretty much every game I've seen. Around the outside of the penalty area the defence never closes players down as quickly or tightly as they should, allowing them to take pot shots and scoring on plenty of occasions.

I reckon our left hand side looks the best it has with LJF and Sheehan, it looks dodgy as fuck with O'Brien playing there as he loses the ball so much. Its not just about how a single player performs, but how the whole team performs.
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:25:37 »

To be fair Dave, how often do people shout about "everything's OK"?  The newspapers weren't filled with stories on "Economy Absolutely Fine" and "MP's Completely Honest" 2 years ago...

I see what you're saying, but people will always pick up on the negatives.  I haven't seen much of Town play recently so can't comment on LJF, but there is always a scapegoat in the Town team.  I presume it's the same with most teams, but if it's not LFJ it's Michael Pook, and if it's not him it's Matthew Hewlett, or Christian Roberts, or Matthew Heywood, or David Duke...
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:28:47 »

They're guilty of that in pretty much every game I've seen. Around the outside of the penalty area the defence never closes players down as quickly or tightly as they should, allowing them to take pot shots and scoring on plenty of occasions.

I reckon our left hand side looks the best it has with LJF and Sheehan, it looks dodgy as fuck with O'Brien playing there as he loses the ball so much. Its not just about how a single player performs, but how the whole team performs.

We looked better with O'Brien on the pitch yesterday.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:33:05 »

We looked better with O'Brien on the pitch yesterday.

I just think that with JPM on the right and winger on the left it makes the team unbalanced, as JPM is more a midfielder than a winger. Which doesn't happen with someone like Sheehan, who is a lot closer to JPM in style of play.

Then JFL and Sheehan can overlap the same way Amankwaah and JPM do.
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:34:30 »

You didn't go yesterday did you?
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:46:23 »

You didn't go yesterday did you?

Nope. But I'm just going from what I've seen of O'Brien so far and the fact that he's a winger.
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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:49:28 »

I just think that with JPM on the right and winger on the left it makes the team unbalanced, as JPM is more a midfielder than a winger. Which doesn't happen with someone like Sheehan, who is a lot closer to JPM in style of play.

Then JFL and Sheehan can overlap the same way Amankwaah and JPM do.

Yesterday is a bit of anomaly as Charlton had 9 men, so OB had extra space...but...

Id say we look better with JPM and OB on the wings as they are both totally different types of wingers, so we can switch it up.

On one side you have a player who is more likely to create space with passing and whip the ball in further back, on the other side you have a player who will just run as people with pure pace and get to the line and put it across.

Much better to have the differen options, it worked well yesterday
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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 16:51:25 »

So your counter point to mine about yesterday was pretty much based on nothing to do with yesterday Smiley

Going back to Lescinel in particular, I have noticed that both the crowd and players are getting on his back from the off. Perhaps some time in the reserves would be good for him, he must be low on confidence.
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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 17:18:55 »

So your counter point to mine about yesterday was pretty much based on nothing to do with yesterday Smiley

Going back to Lescinel in particular, I have noticed that both the crowd and players are getting on his back from the off. Perhaps some time in the reserves would be good for him, he must be low on confidence.


Did anyone notice that David Lucas ran half the length of the pitch to congratulate JFL on his goal assist against Brighton?
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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 17:39:49 »

I'm not in the habit of scape-goating(?) players. Anyone at Charlton, or at Rovers away (Another game johnny must've missed, if he can't remember the last time LJF cost us points) would surely agree that Leschinel was the poorest player in our starting 11. That's not making him a scapegoat, that's an observation that's shared by many people.

As for making Hutchinson a scape goat, don't be fucking stupid. The bloke clearly doesn't give a fuck, he just goes through the motions and exerts as little energy as possible. Once again that's an observation.

Neither player was to blame for the fact that we conceded a 94th minute equaliser yesterday, but where has anybody said they were?

Personally, I hope LJF improves and becomes a player that doesn't look out of place in our first 11. At the moment though he does.
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 18:46:31 »

Agree with the above post.

Hutchinson coming on yesterday was a very strange one, Alex Revell may be equally shite but at least he will run around and put in some effort, Hutchinson just doesn't care. Celtic fan on another board said that when ever he got the chance for them he didn't seem to give a fuck either.

LJF has fucked up too many times this season, he can look good at times but the amount of mistakes he makes is laughable, and I doubt Wilson will keep playing him for much longer, as I think he'll sign a left back in Janaury and keep Sheehan left midfield. I'm not sure on O'Brien yet, but he has looked ok and he'll improve as he gets fitter, and Macklin isn't up to the standard of starting games every week.

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« Reply #41 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 19:01:41 »

Agree with the above post.

Hutchinson coming on yesterday was a very strange one, Alex Revell may be equally shite but at least he will run around and put in some effort, Hutchinson just doesn't care. Celtic fan on another board said that when ever he got the chance for them he didn't seem to give a fuck either.

LJF has fucked up too many times this season, he can look good at times but the amount of mistakes he makes is laughable, and I doubt Wilson will keep playing him for much longer, as I think he'll sign a left back in Janaury and keep Sheehan left midfield. I'm not sure on O'Brien yet, but he has looked ok and he'll improve as he gets fitter, and Macklin isn't up to the standard of starting games every week.


I reckon that quip about Macklin will turn around and bite you on the arse.  When he was fit he was easily better tham macnamee (not hard I know) and away at Franchise, he ripped tham another ass hole.
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« Reply #42 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 19:27:16 »

Not saying he's a bad player, but at the moment I don't reckon he's up to the standard of starting every week.

Promising player with a lot of potential - yes.
Good enough to start every week - not yet.

IMO.
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« Reply #43 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 19:38:45 »

I think Wilson has 2 starting line ups on the left. Away from home lescinel and sheehan, at home sheehan and o brien. I reckon as o brien becomes fitter he will be in the starting 11 with sheehan behind him.
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« Reply #44 on: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 22:13:53 »

I reckon games he is involved inare much more fun to watch.  His ball control positioning are much akin to Ifil's old passing when he had time and space at time, but then every so often he pulls a corker of challlenge, turn or pass out of the hat and makes you happy to be Town fan.
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