Wilson: Tactics vs. Personnel

[juddie]

good post blah blah, agreed.

[adje]

Why does DW keep fucking about with MacNamee-he's a winger,stick him on the left touchline and give him the ball.All this "playing behind the front two"is bollocks in my opinion.Put our two best crossers of the ball on the wings(The 2 Macs) and play Paynter up front.Maybe I'm being too simplistic but people keep saying its a simple game.Two decent crosses on saturday both from MacNamee,no one on the end of em.Other thoughts from saturday;Austen definitely looked worth another go,Ferry more than McGovern looked the best equipped to take Douglas' role,Cuthbert had a shocker with his distribution and if MacNamee didn't create nobody else looked capable of doing so.Having said that first half Norwich looked the best side Ive seen this season.Also its the first time I've doubted the wisdom of spending 100 quid to watch the Town for a long time

[Langers]

Why does DW keep fucking about with MacNamee-he's a winger,stick him on the left touchline and give him the ball.All this "playing behind the front two"is bollocks in my opinion.Put our two best crossers of the ball on the wings(The 2 Macs) and play Paynter up front.Maybe I'm being too simplistic but people keep saying its a simple game.Two decent crosses on saturday both from MacNamee,no one on the end of em.Other thoughts from saturday;Austen definitely looked worth another go,Ferry more than McGovern looked the best equipped to take Douglas' role,Cuthbert had a shocker with his distribution and if MacNamee didn't create nobody else looked capable of doing so.Having said that first half Norwich looked the best side Ive seen this season.Also its the first time I've doubted the wisdom of spending 100 quid to watch the Town for a long time

Great Post. Agree with it all. Very True
 

[LucienSanchez]

When we played with just Billy up front at the beginning of the season, although we didnt score that many, we looked a lot more threatening.

[Crozzer]

Why does DW keep fucking about with MacNamee-he's a winger,stick him on the left touchline and give him the ball.All this "playing behind the front two"is bollocks in my opinion.Put our two best crossers of the ball on the wings(The 2 Macs) and play Paynter up front.Maybe I'm being too simplistic but people keep saying its a simple game.Two decent crosses on saturday both from MacNamee,no one on the end of em.Other thoughts from saturday;Austen definitely looked worth another go,Ferry more than McGovern looked the best equipped to take Douglas' role,Cuthbert had a shocker with his distribution and if MacNamee didn't create nobody else looked capable of doing so.Having said that first half Norwich looked the best side Ive seen this season.Also its the first time I've doubted the wisdom of spending 100 quid to watch the Town for a long time

Great post, that thought was in the Hartlepool match day thread at half time.  The 4:5:1/4:3:3 system would work really well if we had Don Rogers on the left wing, Mike Summerbee on the right wing and Duncan Shearer in the middle, all in their prime of course.

Paynter or Revell and Austin or Tope in the middle, might work.  My choice would be the Paynter, Austin combination with Peacock as sub., as they are permanent.

[jonny72]

People talk about the potential defensive weaknesses with certain combinations of full backs and wide midfielders, but I can't recall one single game where I've thought we were getting torn apart down one of the wings and which in turn led to us losing goals or the game. Even with, for example, the Hartlepool game I'd lay the blame for the goals with the entire defence rather than a weakness down one wing.

Plus we've got two centre backs that are very strong and Douglas (when he is playing) which together more than counteracts any weaknesses on the wings. When they're in form, McNamee playing in front of Amankwaah, Jean-Francois or Kennedy are all very potent attacking forces - I'd prefer a stronger attack over a stronger defence any day of the week. I just think this whole argument and discussion is a red herring and that its time to move on.

There are two very obvious problems. Wilson's tactics and selection are all over the place and its causing massive instability in the team, I'm sure that over the last few games at least some of the players haven't had a clue as to what their role is or have failed to do it. I'm not sure of the cause, either Wilson is incompetent or he is trying everything he can to get things right and it just hasn't happened yet.

The other is the lack of a decent striker. Whether they are good enough or not I don't know, but Tope, Hutchinson, Paynter and Revell have all consistently failed to deliver. Maybe one of them will come good, maybe they won't and maybe Austin is the answer. Not sure why people are saying we're counting on Austin or that there is pressure on him to perform as neither are true. He's a wild card gamble and if it works great and if it doesn't then no big deal.

My biggest worry though is that it all seems to be going a bit Malpas at the moment, which is not good news.

[Crozzer]

 
This all might be true but just not sticking Macca on the wing in a 4:4:2, goes back to Malpas and Byrne. 

Don Rogers used to be criticised for defensive frailties, so you might have a point, except he had an exceptional no-nonsense player at left back behind him.

After Wilson's comments, don't think Macca will start on Saturday.

Prenton Park
Tranmere v Swindon
Full-time Result
               Worst Price   BestPrice   
Tranmere   11/8            13/8   
Swindon   7/5            17/10   
Draw           21/10     12/5   

The bookies think we are going to lose.

[Reg Smeeton]

The bookies think we are going to lose.

We've lost 5 in a row at Prenton Park....I'd have thought a point not out of the question.

A loss and Wilson is a Woking embarrassment from the sack.

[Simon Pieman]

Nah Wilson won't be sacked if that happened I don't think. We're just on a bad run at the moment but he is clearly far more competent than Malpas ever was.

I know it's difficult but we need to start getting ebhind the team and manager more, instead we're piling more and more pressure on them. It's why I wanted a tasty home fixture in the cup (Pox or Rovers) get the atmosphere going.

[Reg Smeeton]

Nah Wilson won't be sacked if that happened I don't think. We're just on a bad run at the moment but he is clearly far more competent than Malpas ever was.

I know it's difficult but we need to start getting ebhind the team and manager more, instead we're piling more and more pressure on them. It's why I wanted a tasty home fixture in the cup (Pox or Rovers) get the atmosphere going.

Hopefully we wont have to find out. A competent manager should ensure a point at Tranmere, and beating Woking, so it shouldn't be an issue.

[Crozzer]

This team is in development, it's 8/11's of a very good team.  That is the frustrating part. 

The worst case scenario of a defeat at Tranmere followed by embarrassment in the cup, even compounded by a JPT exit would be severely disappointing, but should not be reason to throw in the towel.  The last manager did not inspire confidence and blamed the players all too often.  Wilson has given a typically honest assessment after the Norwich game, and doesn't insult the intelligence of the fans.  He will get it right given a bit of time.  Possibly, a Premier League tactical approach for a League 1 side is a failing, but it was a reasonable expectation that especially loan players from higher leagues would be up to it and apply themselves.  I think Wilson deserves our continued support to finish the job, he kept us up last season and has built from the back with some quality.

The discussion on personnel and tactics is fascinating in trying to understand what is going on.  Perhaps if Douglas had not been red carded and suspended, the cracks would have been papered over.  Coxy isn't around this season to do the same.

Let's look forward to at least a point at Tranmere, to Woking being dispatched if we are not complacent (always match the effort of an inferior team), and to Easton and Paynter making a statement in the JPT if they are selected.

[pauld]

We've lost 5 in a row at Prenton Park....I'd have thought a point not out of the question.

A loss and Wilson is a Woking embarrassment from the sack.

You really are getting more ridiculous by the week. Tenner says even if we lose at Tranmere, get knocked out of the JPT and knocked out/held to a replay by Woking, Wilson is safe.

[Mexicano Rojo]

I will double that bet with you reg, are you deliberately becoming a twat reg? Or is it senility?

[dell boy]

I will double that bet with you reg, are you deliberately becoming a twat reg? Or is it senility?

I think it is more that Reg has just come back from the pub looking at the timings.

Cant see Wilson getting the sack myself but saying that if we are knocked out of all cup competitions by early November and start slipping towards relegation (only 6pts off) it could be another Malpas situation.

[juddie]

I despair sometimes. Some of the comments directed Wilson's way this week have made me cringe.

His only crime, as I see it, is not to have replaced Cox. It's something he admits, and something he's tried hard to sort out, and presumably will continue to do so. It's fairly clear good strikers aren't easy to come by. People questioning his tactics and personnel... of course he won't get it right every week. Why do you think he, and we, are in League One?