Feeling Taxed off!!!

[leefer]

Dont really take alot of notice most weeks,but had a good look at my compulsory outgoings this week and frankly was shocked how much i fork out every week.tax 120 pounds,40 national insurance,30 for council tax.....so thats the best part of 200 every week before all the other fukin tax they put on fuel,etc.......what really cheeses me is VAT....what is that all about,value added tax,what a con,best part of 20 quid every 100...but cant really see any extra value can you?...What do you lot think,do we get value for money,what is the nat insurance really for if we all have to dig deep for our pensions as well,to be honest its pissed me off and i wish i hadnt looked into it now!

[Mexicano Rojo]

national insurance is for cunts like me, it costs upwards of 70 grand a year to keep me alive, you never know leefer you might get ill one day. pay your tax and hope nothing bad happens to you.

[Simon Pieman]

It's called Value Added Tax because it is charged on the added value proportion of the sale (businesses can claim the VAT they pay on supplies back, so in essence only charge tax on the difference between the sales price and the cost - the 'added value' proportion). It's a very annoying bugger of a tax.

As for NI, I don't have a problem with paying it. If I'm ever out of work for a prolonged period I'd intend to collect my social securities.

[leefer]

Thats fair enough Mexico....but i would rather pay 40 pounds a week to Bupa if i had a choice,i cant afford both,my mum in law payed thousands of nat insurance in her life time,when she got ill she was treated like shit and sadly died......she didnt get no say in her treatment nor did we,i would gladly pay an extra few pounds a week for people who struggle,my gripe Mexico is we should have a choice if ware not happy with Nat Ins,i would rather go to Bupa with my 40 pounds,i wish my mum in law was with them....they would have scanned her and her illness prob picked up.

[Simon Pieman]

Thats fair enough Mexico....but i would rather pay 40 pounds a week to Bupa if i had a choice,i cant afford both,my mum in law payed thousands of nat insurance in her life time,when she got ill she was treated like shit and sadly died......she didnt get no say in her treatment nor did we,i would gladly pay an extra few pounds a week for people who struggle,my gripe Mexico is we should have a choice if ware not happy with Nat Ins,i would rather go to Bupa with my 40 pounds,i wish my mum in law was with them....they would have scanned her and her illness prob picked up.

Mate I know exactly how you feel. Unfortunately I'm of a view that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If there was a limited NHS or none at all, private healthcare would be more expensive than it is already, so you probably wouldn't go for it anyway.

My main gripe with the NHS is that it isn't run efficiently enough. With the amount of people that use it mistakes are bound to happen but certain incidents are unforgivable.

[Arriba]

i dont mind paying.but i mind all the cunts that get something for nothing.if the dss payments to scum were stopped, we'd have to pay less.

[flammableBen]

i dont mind paying.but i mind all the cunts that get something for nothing.if the dss payments to scum were stopped, we'd have to pay less.

Let's take me for example. I've paid tax on my income and a bit of national insurance now and again when I've been working. But generally I've consistantly been unemployed or a student.

Are you saying that people like me should be left to fend for themselves? Because I've got no problem with a few rich (and my rich I mean anybody with money) muggings if I was desperate. Do I still have the right to not die from a curable disease? Or do you think because I've haven't paid enough tax I should be left to die?

[Colin Todd]

Dont be such a drama queen.  Arriba is clearly saying that dossers get given far too much in this country and he is right. No-one is saying let the poor die. Hundreds of thousands of eastern Europeans wouldn't need to be here if the legion of lazy British bastards did something worthwhile with their lives.

From you're posts on here you are obviously not thick, just get a job and stop your moaning.

[Nomoreheroes]

1. If you don't like the amount of tax/nat insurance etc you are paying, then why not move to a country where you don't have to pay it?

2. There is always the option to pay for private healthcare (like everyone else in the world).

3. FB: This is not a personal attack, but either your parents or you should be funding yourself. I don't know you, so should I be funding you?

Put more eloquently:

NMH

[Ralphy]

I don't have a problem paying tax and national insurance as long as it goes to a worthy cause. What fucks me off alot is the lazy, dole scum cunts who I deliver to on my round that sit at home in front of the tv waiting for me to deliver their giro.

I really have to bite my tongue some days.

£70 a week in tax and £35 a week in national insurance I pay to those cunts sat on the sofa.

[pauld]

As the government spend around £90bn on the NHS, £33bn on defence and £74bn on education, it's more like £15 a week you pay to those cunts sat on the sofa. You're lashing out slightly more to those cunts looking after sick people and those cunts trying to teach kids stuff. Bastards!

Edit: more seriously, we do spend a shocking amount on benefits although not all of it goes on whatever the hell they call the dole these days (there's a fair whack goes to child poverty, tax credits for working families, child support, stuff for pensioners etc). And after a quick 10-minute google I couldn't actually find a simple breakdown of UK govt spending. Like a simple "where your money goes" table. Anyone better at googling care to try digging one out?

[tans]

I don't have a problem paying tax and national insurance as long as it goes to a worthy cause. What fucks me off alot is the lazy, dole scum cunts who I deliver to on my round that sit at home in front of the tv waiting for me to deliver their giro.

I really have to bite my tongue some days.

£70 a week in tax and £35 a week in national insurance I pay to those cunts sat on the sofa.

Complete with their 50 inch plasma tv and top of the range stereo system.
Does my nut.

I paid 800 in tax this month  :shock:

[Bogus Dave]

i dont earn enough to pay tax    Best of both worlds

[Ralphy]

Paul, you know what I was getting at.

[Reg Smeeton]

I don't have a problem paying tax and national insurance as long as it goes to a worthy cause. What fucks me off alot is the lazy, dole scum cunts who I deliver to on my round that sit at home in front of the tv waiting for me to deliver their giro.

I really have to bite my tongue some days.

£70 a week in tax and £35 a week in national insurance I pay to those cunts sat on the sofa.

   Surely you don't have The Underrclass in Chipping Norton?  

    There may be good reason for them being out of work.   For example I've a mate, who is single late 40's worked all his life....last year had a heart attack.  It was the fags that caused it....he nearly went, but didn't.   He's now registered disabled, he hates it because he wants to work,  but just can't...the money he gets from benefits....is as it should be enough to keep you going, but no frills.

    The poor have always been among us.....historically up until the early part of the 20th century we had The Poor Law, where a tax was levied locally to deal with problems such as vagrancy, the idle poor and those incapable of fending for themselves.

   This involved the Workhouse....where conditions had to be worse than outside...which meant they were bad.   Alfred Williams' book on life in South Marston, in the latter part of the 19th Century, is worth  a read to give an idea of the terror that the Stratton Workhouse held on the locals.

  It ws against this background that the idea of NI was developed.....it might not be perfect, but to me is a mark of a civilised society.