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Looking forward to this for various reasons, one is for the life of me I can't remember if I've ever seen Town v Rochdale. If so one of the few I haven't seen.
This is surely a home win banker? We're doing well away, just need that to rub off at home.

I'll go 2-1 Town. Att: 8,822 (184 away)

On the train for this one and a few beers with 4 non Swindon fans.
They will be blown away by Garnerball.
Looking forward to it as always.

I can never forgive Rochdale and the fat wanker striker Steve Johnson for ending Jimmy Allans great career by basically flattening him from a corner and shattering his left arm way back in 1983.

One of THE worst challenges I have ever seen in person, poor Jimmy can barely move his arm even now.

While I had been to games before that one, it's the first game I remember watching sat in the wooden seats in the Shrivy Rd stand.

You sadistic bastard. 🤣🤣

Got my ticket, seems quite a number left. Thought with the last few games people might have been more up for it.

Remember it well in front of the TE.
He was in some pain.

It was mate, right in front of me stood in the Town End that day, horrific. Johnson was always a massive thug of a player.

Rochdale are currently in a run of 5 losses in a row (in all comps) and 7 games since their last win they have failed to score in the last 4 games. They sit in 18th place with 3 wins and 5 defeats in their first 11 league games, scoring 12 goals and conceding 14 so far.

No player has scored more than 2 goals so far this term for them.

Its well documented the problems at the club currently with takeovers coming and going and nothing happening so far on that front, but luckily they dodged a bullet with the last ownership battle with a certain Curran.

Several of their fans saying they won't put another penny into their club with the new owner in charge! understandable with it being the man who almost bankrupted Charlton and who took illegal payments for players he was an agent for while owning Charlton and much more shit! And we thought we had it bad with Power!

On the pitch Rochdale have only once ever won a game at Swindon in 2014 and only once got a draw back in 2011 with Swindon winning the other 9 meetings between the teams at the CG scoring 26 times and conceding 10, a win ratio of over 80%.

Swindon to suffer a single goal defeat in front of 9,145 fans with 76 Dale fans there.

First game since the lockdown and since my son was born in Sept. Looking forward to it. Its going to be 0-0 isn't it?  :D

We really need to improve our home form and this seems like the perfect opportunity to start doing it. It feels like we'll go full Swindon and lose doesn't it? I imagine Rochdale will sit back and frustrate us so hopefully we can continue on from the past few games.

3 of their last 4 defeats ended in 1-0 defeats the other at Bradford finished a 2-0 defeat they don't concede many, only Harrogate have scored 3 goals against them in the league and that was on the opening day of the season.

They have been playing with 5 at the back and 2 defensive midfielders sat in front of that defence, they will be very hard to break down.

Hopefully they'll do a Rovers.

2-0 home win.

Att: 8,301

This is how I feel about the next match


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKY0qRfl6-g

3-0 home win
Att 8450  176 away fans

Slightly different to us when many of our fans (quite rightly) weren't going to put another penny into the club until the old owner had gone! Won't be an easy game

This has got Swindon defeat written all over it!

Win. 3-1

10-0 seeing as I will miss it.

We've had 3 really good performances /results away from home including one where we played the league leaders off the park. So it looks like we could be at the start of a really decent run of form. We have a really exciting player in McKirdy, the likes of whom we have never seen before and who looks about ready to catch fire.

We're playing a team who have lost 5 on the bounce, can't buy a goal and are in turmoil off the pitch.

All the ingredients then for a ball achingly, mind bogglingly frustrating 0-1 home defeat🤦‍♂️

But that's not my prediction. I've never predicted a defeat and never will...

3-0 JML, Simpson, McKirdy.... and we will lead at half time for the first time this season.

I have never predicted a win and never will!

Last season I was far more often right than I was wrong though!

Disappointed to say that I won't be able to attend the fixture tomorrow. Despite a negative PCR test I have decided not to attend as a number of my offspring tested positive.

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Manchester Rd simply won't be the same I imagine.  It will be like the end of times without a disdainful walk from JBZ to keep people in their place for another week or two.

5-0 Simpson to get 4.

I’m convinced Ward will be in goal tomorrow. Garner saying how tired JoJo was after travelling.

4-0

I think he deserves his chance and it makes sense if Jo Jo is fatigued.

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Hope you're rght, just got a generous 50/1 on us winning 1-0 at half-time, 3-0 full time.   COYR COYR :

We're split your winnings if correct😀

And how many of said offspring do you have at the last count?

I see the Town End side block of the Arkells has just been opened for the first time this season.

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I just sat through the last 6 games highlights of Rochdals matches and they do try to pass the ball, they pack out the defence with 5 defenders and defensive minded midfielders but didn't look like they were overly quick on the counter.

They though look very susceptible to any players running at their centre backs who look quite clumsy and slow.

Much like us they play a possession based football with a lot of short passes between defenders and midfield and rarely let more than 1 goal in almost every game except for Burnley who took them apart 4-1.

Here are their stats from the last 6 games, a run of DLLLL

Mansfield away drew 1-1
59% possession
11 shots
3 ot
429 passes
73% accuracy

Burnley away EFL lost 1-4
47% possession
7 shots
2 ot
425 passes
75% accuracy

Oldham home lost 0-1
68% possession
8 shots
2 ot
510 passes
79% accuracy

Bradford home lost 0-2
58% possession
15 shots
1 ot
477 passes
75% accuracy

Port Vale PJT away lost 0-1
45% possession
11 shots
1 ot
408 passes
74% accuracy

Crawley home lost 0-1
52% possession
12 shots
3 ot
429 passes
68% accuracy

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By comparison here are Swindon stats for the last 6 games LDDWWW.

Port Vale home lost 1-2
62% possession
11 shots
5 ot
505 passes
79% accuracy

Northampton away drew 1-1
61% possession
13 shots
3 ot
476 passes
83% accuracy

Colchester home drew 0-0
69% possession
18 shots
6 ot
653 passes
84% accuracy

Bristol R away won 3-1
65% possession
16 shots
9 ot
545 passes
85% accuracy

FGR away won 2-0
45% possession
12 shots
5 ot
336 passes
78% accuracy

Plymouth away PJT won 3-1
57% possession
12 shots
6 ot
563 passes
84% accuracy

I don't make predictions and never will

Go on, try it. What’s the worst that could happen…. Swindon 3 Dale 0. If feels good.

I bet he does really he just don't want to share😀

For some reason I think Swindon struggles to score with packed box.  I’m thinking 2-1 with the roaches scoring on a counter after a set piece.

I think that the goaltenders will have to fend off a number of field goal attempts.

0 1 defeat or at best 0 0. Gradually, we'll become a good away side, nervous at home.

The players should be full of confidence so nothing to fear just get at them from the start and hope for an early goal.

I thought we were already a good away side

4-1 Town

I'll settle for that :pint:

Very Reg of you.

3 nil Town today. COYR

It was a famous Gazza quote, said without realising the contradiction !!

Roaches, ha, ha, I like that one.

2-0 town, McKirdy and Simpson. Jojo to start

Scratch my 10-0 prediction, I’m back home but still cannot go but I think it is likely IMHO to be 2-0 minimum or put it another way I don’t think the ‘Roaches’ 😁 will score today so I predict a win with a min of two goals. I also think we’ll get a positive result in Tuesday away at Sutton.

Who are the huskies ?
What town
What sport

Nebraska Cornhuskers. Lincoln, Nebraska. College football (as in American football)

Ward; Odimayo, Iandolo, Conroy (C), Crichlow, Gladwin, Simpson, Payne, McKirdy, Hunt, Reed.

SUBS | Wollacott, Baudry, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Williams, Kesler-Hayden, East.

As expected, would still try KHH on the left side instead of Iandolo who’s still a massive weak link in the team.

I agree or at least Hunt at LB and KKH at RB.

Still no Grant on the bench though.

Good to see Ward get another run out

Hockaday co commentating on the wireless😂

Grant obviously fallen out with management somehow

Tbf, Grant played Thursday for Jamaica. Probably not back yet.

Wasn't due back until today I think.

Only flew back from Honduras Friday night /this morning

I don’t think Grant got back till yesterday.

Groans....

Hunt deserves to stay on his favoured right side, KHH even on the left would surely be at least as good going forward and couldn’t be worst defensively.

We need your mate back😀

Even if you exclude his international commitments and the travelling and so forth.

Who does he get in ahead of?

He was on comms on Tuesday.

Dabre impressed me at LWB on Tuesday TBH.

I missed that one so hopefully he may get some more league games

For me Baudry on the bench, he has filled in well at CB several times and Baudry just isn't up to it any more, or East.

Nobody is calling for him to come into the team just at least be an option on the bench .

Perhaps.
Still no where near the starting XI (currently) and rightfully so (currently)

Sadly, Grants probably done here.

Surprised and disappointed not to see Lyden on the bench.

This is my fear, Garner obviously doesnt fancy him or trust him.

Upset for Dabre after Tuesday that he can't get on the bench too. Again probably for East as we have cover at CM with Williams there.

Hes injured. I shit you not!

Ffs!

Such dulcet tones of Dave Hockaday :D

I'm nodding off already

Well still not considered fit enough, not sure if its technically "injured" as such. He looked fine on Tuesday TBH.

Shhh you will wake us all up, the fucking dullard, him and Phil Smith are not the best co comms at all, would love Doughty to come back and do a few, he was excellent and at minimum has a comprehension of the use of the English language!

Exactly that! Even Steve White would be an improvement😀

Chalkie always made me chuckle on comms, at least hes enthusiastic about being there!

Looks really dark there today at the moment.

I see that we are unchanged from last week - Those who were away (apart from Grant) make up part of the bench.

I think that is the right call to be honest. If some (not all) had come in at the expense of a winning team, it would have sent the wrong message.

Keeping faith with those who performed well last week sends the message that you are only as good as your last game and there is competition for places.

I don't think that you should tinker with a winning formula

Anyone else not getting the option for audio (or video) on ifollow? I’m logged in and everything And it’s just giving me the option to buy tickets, not play the feed

same

Ah its just come on

The app seems to be on Rochdale comms.

The app has now lockewd me out - can't log in due to error

On PC via browser its Swindon comms, but Hockaday is on so stay with what you have....

It’s not just you. It keeps coming up with page errors for me too

They're being quite complementary about us at the moment to be fair.

Can someone put 50p in the meter for the floodlights please.

Conroy got away with that after McKirdy lost the ball, playing for offside, that was tight.

Odimayo with some slack passing puts us under pressure.

Then Iandol has a go from 25 yards at the angel and goes way wide and high.

Iandolo poor right foot shot way over

Slack by Gladwin in midfield gives it away cheaply.

Rochdale pressing us quite high and taking the game to us, we are making some poor passing decisions so far.

More loose play by Gladwin on the left.

Conroy gives away a free kick wide right 20 yards out.

Might have to listen to away Comms in a min! Hockaday is so dull!

Rochdale having the much better of the early exchanges.

Break by town the McKirdy ball finds Payne but his shot is easily saved.

Was McKirdy complaining to the ref then or at Payne?

McKirdy run through their defence but his shot is knocked wide for a corner.

Lovely run from McKirdy!

Terrible corner from Payne.

McKirdy looked to be fouled but the ref said it was a dive on the edge of the box.

McKirdy flattened but the ref doesn't give a freekick

Good move by Town backheel from Reed finds Iandol who crosses but it finds Gladwin who tries a chip and it goes well wide.

Rochdale think they might have gotten away with one there.

Reed back heel. Iandolo cross. Gladwin didn't fancy the shot then floated the ball back over to the left and into touch.

Then, a minute later, Iandolo goes down in the area. Nothing given

Some good movement by Town Simpson shoots but its saved.

Great take by McKirdy but his shot is deflcected just wide.

Payne felled wide left 15 yards out.

Header by McKirdy just over the bar.

McKirdy header wide.

That's about the 4th or 5th cancehes has

Town were poor for the first 15 mins but the last 10 we have taken a grip on the game and had some good chances.

Iandolo unlucky to have fouled the defender while running down the line, hes playing fairly well so far today.

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Good cross pass from Gladwin finds Iandolo 20 yards out but his shot is blocked for another corner.

Payne shoots the ball wide after the corner wide from 25 yards out.

I had that earlier mate, use a different browser, its working in the Edge for me but not in Firefox or Brave.

Good move by Rochdale but he fires high and wide from a good position.

Cheers, I'll give it a go

Again they exploit us at left back and get a good cross in but its wasted.

Not much going right for Simpson so far today.

1-0 Gladwin

Nice one JJ :clap:

Goal of the season so far.

Woke up to see Gladwin score! 1-0

Gladwin won a header 30 yards out finds McKirdy who backheels it to Gladwin who volleys it into the corner from 18 yards.

Left the radio to use the toilet. Phone flashes up 1-0.
Typical.

That’s another great goal to be fair.

On chances created we deserved it even though general play has been fairly even.

The backheel from McKirdy and the finish by Gladwin absolutely sublime.

Crich with a mistake bringing the ball out and Rochdale fire wide on the counter.

Save by Ward, easy one from the corner.

Would love to see KKH bombing down the right today up against a very poor left back who is there to be exploited.

McKirdy turns and shoots from 18 yards just over the bar.

McKirdy twists and turns in the area and blasts a shot over the bar

McKirdy taken out near the half way line, yellow card.

HT 1-0 Town definately edged it.

McKirdy flattened. O'Connell yellow

1st time we have led at HT in the league this season I think.

A couple of decent moves one of which we finished in a pretty erratic half but definitely the better team. Iandolo has the freedom of the left hand side and keeps getting played into acres of space by Payne, his lack of an end product continues to frustrate.

I hope Simpson picks up 2nd half, at the moment the CB on loan from Reading, Dorsett, has him in his pocket.

Couple of comments from their forum:

Swindon are going in fast in furious on the press, trying to boss the game, and It's working for them. Were give the ball away under pressure. Unfortunately, our defence clearances aren't picking out our men, they are just hoofed up the pitch.

1-0 Swindon. Very good goal and has been coming. Swindon easily the better team although without really testing our keeper until the goal. 66% possession to them so far and no shots on target for us

McKirdy tries a shot from outside the box but its well wide.

First McKirdy shot of the 2nd half!

Lovely play by Gladwin but his pass to McKirdy was a bit too heavy.

Att: 9,310 (144 away)

Rochdale have a shot but its an easy save by Ward.

Excellent.

Rochdale come out fighting. Lots of possession at the mo.

Poor clearance by Ward after a weak pass back from Conroy.

Ward played into trouble by Conroy

McKirdy nearly played in by Payne

Great pass from Iandolo to Payne who crossed to Simpson but his touch is terrible int he box.

Iandolo plays in Payne, who lays the ball behind Simpson and McKirdy. Simpson gets the ball but miscontrols and loses the chance to shoot.

Nice chipped pass from Reed to McKirdy but the keeper claims it on the edge of the box.

Brilliant 👏

Another poor touch by Simpson puts us under pressure at the back.

It does prove, win games and they will come.

So will the advertising and sponsorship.

Simpson had chance to relieve pressure bit miscontrols and they continue to attack and cross the ball across our 6 yard box with no striker running on to it.

Conroy down injured

Conroy mistake at the back but Rochdale shoot well over from a great position.

Not started this half, Ward’s lost the ability to kick which isn’t helping.

Conroy with another mistake gifts them a chance. Lucky not to be 1-1

Impressive !

1-1 poor from Crich.

1-1 been coming, awful this half so far.

They have started the half far better than us.

Fucking terrible

1-1 It was coming! Two poor balls given away and two plays beat offside trap. No chance for Ward

Back 3 and keeper have lost all composure.

Great move by Town by Iandolos cross is really poor.

Simpson takes down a ball from Iandolo but his shot is weak.

A few mins of pressure from us. Iandolo seems to keep getting room or initially creating opportunities then right royally buggers them up!

Hospital ball from Iandolo to Payne there in a good position.

Common theme here…

Time for a change, Simpson and Payne off for Williams and Gilbert for me.

TBF its been his best game for a while. Until that move!

Reed cross but nobody is in the box.

Simpson again loose.

I would take Iandolo off and bring on KKH and probably put Hunt to LWB.

No movement on the bench from the Town subs yet though.

We really need to make a change here, the game is drifting away from us.

Our back 3 look lethargic and incapable of passing since 1/2 time

Odimayo hospital ball to Hunt

100%

Liam Kelly coming on. Let's see what we missed

This has descended into the usual home performance now, sloppy and fucking about constantly at the back. That said should have just scored.

Great chance for mcKirdy but its a good save after a nice counter by Town.

Save from McKirdy

Reed nearly finds Simpson with a long pass int he box.

Wards kicking has been poor today.

Payne wins a corner.

Great ball in but nobody can get a foot on it in the 6 yard box.

KKH on for Hunt.

Garner doesn't rate Hunt does he ?

Reed terrible shot from 20 yards, clears the CGH!

Ward quickly out to stop a chance for Rochdale

Wouldn’t have been the change I made either. McKirdy off for JML

JML on for McKirdy.

He had his chance to sell him to Wrexham

JML coming on for McKirdy

McKirdy played well again, set up the goal and so very nearly scored in a 1 on 1 with the keeper.

Can't believe that. The only person who has looked like scoring all game!

There was no firm offer in the end, they signed a right back from Lids.

I would have taken Simpson off (watch him score now!).

Apart from the person that scored.  ;)

And he put him in the starting line up today so I really don't think that's true...

iandolo saves us

 :clap: :clap:

I did think that :)

He swapped him for a more attacking wing back

Great tackle from Iandolo.

fucks sake. crap

Why are we making subs to settle for the draw?

1-2

We gone to shit at the back, miles off the pace abb mh d there’s the goal.

1-2

Iandolo with a goal saving tackle

Arse.

Poor defending by Town, easy goal.

Simpson should have come off

mckirdy should have gone up top

Mitchell should have gone into mckirdy role.

Everyone stood off him and he finished well from 18 yards.

We’ve got our game plan back to front this week.
Good first half. Poor second half.

This.

1-2 Rochdale. Poor defending AGAIN. Payne and Reed

Bloody Liam Kelly

This second half needed someone like Grant to put it about and wake some of our players up.

We have underestimated Rochdale and it has cost us.

100%

Garner really needs to sort out our shit home form or we're mid tablebat best.

Williams on for Odimayo.

We have now wasted 2 subs. Only Williams for ...Odimayo!?!?

Dive by JML in the box.

I think a lot has gone wrong today.

The back 3 have been poor, Reed has probably had his worst game, the subs have been wrong.

Definate dive by JML.

JML booked for a dive in the area

This, and Wards kicking has been very poor, also Simpson has had a really poor game too.

Ward saves cut back from left

Good. No room for cheats in sport.

We just want to walk the ball into the net all the time.

Their keeper wasting time.

Can't see where a goal is coming from

As good as we are away, we are dreadful at home!

Still the scum are losing at home 1-3 to Plymouth…

Very poor 2nd half performance

That was an awful finish from Payne.

KKH wins a corner.

Nice ball from Williams to JML. Cross behind Spson goes to Payne who hits the roof of the Town End

As good as the last 3 away games have been this has been as poor as we have played all season, certainly 2nd half.

We cant seem to play at home.

No shape. No threat. No foal scorers on the pitch.

Stop being a neigh sayer ;)

Corner to Swindon.

6 mins added.

Feeling a bit horse from shouting at the TV!

KKH and Williams are the only ones giving it everything they have got. The rest are pretty lax in their speed of play.

2-2 Williams!

Header from KKH to Williams who pokes it in from 5 yards.

2-2 Williams! After Iandolo and Gladwin fanny around on the left. Gladwin cross. KKH heads it back to Williams who bundled it in

And as if to back you up.....

Iandolo shoots but its deflected wide.

Iandolo shot. Corner

They have been the difference this half.

Another corner to Swindon.

Cleared.

Another corner from the other side

FT 2-2.

I’ll take the point considering how bad we were for most of the second half.

Maybe start with Williams on Tuesday at Sutton

Not a great 2nd half performance but I will take that, we shouldnt have let them back into it though.

Williams and KKH must start, also a recall for Jojo after Wards poor distribution today.

Williams isn't an obvious impact sub but seems to be very effective at pushing the tempo of a game as the opposition tire. Not a great result, but a decent enough one.

Got out of jail there, but should have won that easily with the first half domination.

Terrible second half performance.

Terrible decision to take off McKirdy.

The second half needed Grant to come on and break up midfield. Reed was overrun on his own.

Two tough games coming up Sutton just above us and Bradford just below

Reeds poorest game so far in a Town shirt, Simpson not far behind him too, both of them unusually so.

Clearly the ‘Roaches’ have not read the script, bastards.

Not sure I agree. The distribution in front of Ward was worse. But yes, I think Wollacott to come back.

I think Hunt would be unlucky to be replaced by KKH.

Who do you leave out for Williams?

Unfortunately pre game I was speaking to a couple of fellow TEFers and suggested exactly that would happen.

I reckon Wollacott comes back in Tuesday as Ward’s poor kicking second half seemed start off all the sloppiness at the back. Also second half showed there’s still a big need for Grant to in the squad.

Not sure how many long kicks from Ward found their intended target but it wasn't many.

Williams for Iandolo (I know it wont happen though) and KKH for Hunt who Garner obviously doesnt rate much.

Thought we got away with one there.  The second half was a shambles from Conroy, Crichlow and Iandolo (bar one great saving tackle) and Garner.

Conroy played the entire second half like a player nursing an injury or trying to show everyone he was playing through one.  Whichever way, a Manager with a bit of ruthlessness should have pulled him off when he sat on the floor nursing his ankle.  He'd already been strolling/limping around and he kept that going for the remainder of the game.

Crichlow seemed to let the last game or two go to his head and the easy first half combined with that over confident thinking to create a second half performance of mistake after mistake.

Iandolo - that tackle was game saving as it turned out, so he is almost absolved.  But he was useless.  I'm not sure what has happened to him because he has never been good at defending but always had a good cross in him.  That has vanished, his final ball has been atrocious.  On the plus side, he chickened responsibility twice which led to Gladwin putting in the cross we scored from.

Garner - didn't change that backline when it needed it.  McKirdy was still creating.  His decision making seemed like it was born from a prescription of what we were going to do as opposed to being able to identify the issues and fix/change things.

First half I thought we looked quite good, so it was as if we felt we could just see it out.

At the end of the day we got a point, you take it, brush yourselves down and realise that when we play to our best we are better than most.  As they say, this one probably needs us to be goldfish, just forget it (apart from Garner, remember it and learn).

We're starting to mirror Bristol City excellent away can't win at home

When we’re on song, we’re irresistible. Certainly away. When we’re not it would seem that not enough players turn up for the full 90 minutes. Which seems to be at home. On a positive note we didn’t lose and as long as we keep in touch with the top three and as has been mentioned we have the January window to look forward to. On top of that we have an FA Cup run and we could end up making some decent money to add to the + 8000 home attendances. Today we should have bagged a minimum of £10k in the till along with the £10k from last weeks televised win at the vegans.

Harsh to be to critical with where we are now considering..

FA Cup draw tomorrow maybe better getting an away draw!

£10 grand today? Jeez, you’re way out with that. Say, half the crowd were STs that still leaves 4,500 @ £20 odd.

9310 today, the ten being from Rochdale

144😀

Garner:
- Two points dropped
- First half good. Should have had second goal
- Blatant penalty missed in the first half. Iandolo was fouled
- Second half let them back into the game
- Two goals avoidable. Both mistakes
- Massive response in last 15 mins
- Need to be winning these games
- Keep working at it
- Players gave everything
- Invited them back into it. They engaged further forward.
- We played into their press and not beyond it.
- Poor defending from set pieces in 2nd half
- Positive is the response anddetermination
- Scored 2 great goals today
- 19 shots and numerous final third entries
- KKH has really good spring for the header back across
- Players overconfident at half time? No. They just adjusted
- We weren't casual but just too slow at times
- Learning curve. But keeps momentum.
- Thought we deserved to win. But at least we got something from it
- Players from FGR and Plymouth game deserved to play.
- Move into 2 games next week and we will use the squad.
- Slight worry about home form? No, because we should have had 6 points from last 2 games based on performance.
- We have been good defensively, but today shot ourselves in the foot giving 2 goals away
- Sutton are physical. They are doing well. We are preparing full detail and come up with a way to win
- Aguilar will train with us and get 5 games over the next 28 days at a higher level t han he has played before

Grant might have to play in defence, Conroy's injury and staying on was instrumental in the poor second half defensive display.

Most of todays attendances and we had more than piss stains again which flatters them as Plymouth would have had a decent following.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/fixtures/_/date/202101016

Hang on, 8000 is the break even figure and that includes ST. So 9000 is an additional 1000 give or take at a minimum of £10. Obviously if it is £20 then that’s £17000.

2 points dropped. I mean we didn't deserve to win based on second half, but Rochdale were poor.

as much as Garner got it right the last few games he fit the subs wrong for me.

however credit for salvaging a point

Was it a stone wall penalty

But you never mentioned break even. I was just pointing out that 9300 would bring in about £90,000 on top of STs.

By all means declare wollacott #1, but the sloppiness was nothing to do with ward

Disagree. His kicking second half was shocking and was a contributing factor in constantly surrendering possession and the sloppiness.

JoJo has better distribution, JoJo to start Tuesday.

we'll have to disagree theakston.

it's not like he has a target to hit regardless. Simpson shrinks 6 inches in the air

I was working so when i went in to my computer and saw it 1-2 with 1 minute left of reg, i was pissed and said here is a loss...so i am actually thrilled they equalized at least...but should have taken care of business today...

was it the team looking a head to Tuesday?

I’d like to see both Williams and McKirdy start on Tuesday but I don’t know how you fit them both in with the system we play.

He just seemed to lose all composure kicking, even kicking it out of his hands he started slicing it which is a bit bizarre as that’s bread and butter.

Going back to Rob Tuck’s post, Iandolo needs to get his end product back sharpish, a player having as much space as he did all game and not putting in any kind of decent balls is unforgivable.

I didn’t FUCKING HAVE TOO.

Last thing I need. To shrink 6 inches!

Don’t get shitty

I said the exact same thing halfway through the 2nd half. He must be the only football player who is shorter when jumping.

Williams has played wing back for Wales I think

He's just not very good is he. Quite comical at times really.

But fans were raving about him after watching the FGR game on last week!

Were they? Who? He wasn't great at all there either  :hmmm:

Simpson has done OK and has enough about him to work on.  He has scored a few, should have had some more and can be a handful when defenders get too tight to him.  He has no desire whatsoever to head the ball though.

A few Bristol city fans were admiring him and commenting that he looked decent for a young inexperienced player

JoJo and KKH to start. Also, JML might be a surprise start in place of Simpson, with pace against physical defenders.  Is Conroy going to carry a knock?  If so Grant on the bench.  Williams might be in for McKirdy, with McKirdy to come on after an hour.  Part of the plan must be to be unpredictable to negate scouting reports.

We are used to managers talking utter bollocks but if Garner said this "- We weren't casual but just too slow at times" Then he is right up there with three draws are a win.

Look at the bigger picture would you have accepted 7 points out of 9 from the last three games of which two were away?

Completely agreed. Home form still a concern though. Not sure what it is as I don't think we play any differently at home compared to away?

It's hard to pinpoint the reason unless we don't give the opposition enough credit.

To be fair, a clear change of plan from Rochdale today to press us higher second half - worked a treat. I don't see why more teams don't do it. We can't really ever hit long so just suffocate us in our own defensive third.

I also think Carlise & Port Vale done their homework well.

Every away team so far has pressed us high- until we can adapt to deal with it home results won’t improve

Could be worth giving JML a go up top, play balls into channel and in behind when they press us high?

Yep, one long ball down the line by Critch instead of the short pass that was intercepted prevents their first.

How do we get Williams into the team as it dosen't make sense having that quality on the bench so maybe try him at left wing back as previously stated.

Could play a 4-2-3-1, Odimayo at RB with Payne Williams and Mckirdy behind Simpson/Mitchell-Lawson?

Thinking the same with Garner hinting, post-match, said he was going to use the squad. We need an outlet in the manner of Woolery, it comes back immediately if we go long.

Good shout

Highlights?
All I get from Sky is 2 second video

I wonder if JML make anything that would help JML stay on his feet. Some stabilisers perhaps,

Same here after a long advertisement

Nice to hear the opposition views
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BG8Sx7RQRZc

I would. If he can do it for Wales.

I'm sure he didn't drop down to league 2 to be on the bench

He wasn't today or at Bristol rovers. I thought he did well against fgr but I watched it on the box.

I think he could be useful if he can get that consistency.

But today he should have been subbed, not mckirdy

Really disappointed today.  We've been at it last few games away from home but can't seem to cope with the press at home.   Certainly wasn't dull but the statuesque defending is a concern. 

Williams, Mckirdy and KKH must start on Tuesday.

Highlights:

https://youtu.be/wef2CDotPRA

Agree with this, we just can't seem to penetrate teams that come to the CG and park the bus. Got to learn to break these teams down. Credit where it's due, they did their homework.

That's probably because that's all there was !!. (Other than the injury time bombardment of their goal).

I was lead to believe that there were 4 goals scored.

Steel yourself for when the glitches are ironed out then. Could be a riveting watch.

I thought Dales second was bad watching it live but seeing it in the highlights it’s even worse. Why did everyone just stop and watch?

Draw at home, win away. That would still work.

Maybe a couple of changes for Tuesday?
JJW should have gotten over the fatigue and as the no 1 should start.
I suspect that KKH at his best is better in the RWB role than Hunt at his best.
Tough on both Ward & Hunt as they both have enough credits in the bank to start against Sutton.

Williams is an interesting one.
On paper, at 28 should be at his peak and playing every week at this level.
Just wondering how many of his 190 odd career appearances have been from the bench?
Hopefully the injuries haven't taken their toll.
For the moment I'd have him as first change if we are chasing the game.
I'm sure he'll get a run if he stays fit and others start to pick up injuries or lose form.

Intrigued also by the LWB role being the first one mentioned whenever a TEF team tinker is mooted.
To my albeit relatively untrained eye Iandolo looks to be the best option we have in that role and doesn't appear to have done anything majorly wrong when playing there.
If we revert back to a 4 then the debate does change.
If a specialist LWB is recruited in Jan then all well & good, but on current form he deserves his place.

Would have been interesting to see Dominic Thompson in this side.
Think he was on the bench for Brentford last night, no idea if he’s had any game time in the Prem this season.

Vs Ipswich Dom Thompson is exactly what this team could do with - if we’re going to stick with wing backs.

Good shout as he was class away at Ipswich and knew how to bomb down the left wing.

For those who haven't seen the goals.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wef2CDotPRA

Watching it live, I was convinced Payne was tugged back, hence all the players stopping. Watching it back I'm far from convinced though...

Both goals were bad

There was a lot of it about yesterday:

https://twitter.com/zaiku09/status/1449410487666593805?s=20

It’s obvious that the home form is unlikely to improve without changing something. I don’t expect Garner to deviate from the style so there appears no logical reason to expect anything different at home. We’ll win the occasional game but our inability to put away some very poor sides is going to affect where we finish.

Apart from Vale the other teams have been poor. God knows what happens when we play the decent sides at home.

We're find out next week as Bradford are always a tough nut to crack!

I actually think playing the decent sides will help us, at various points yesterday Rochdale had all 10 men behind the ball. The chances are the better sides wouldn’t be as defensive therefore easier to break down.

Looks like Simpson is this years scapegoat then. He was poor yesterday for sure but he was better than anything we have seen from Harry Parsons still. He is a 19 year old lad learning his trade, we have been moaning all season that we play shitty tippy tappy football and now we are moaning that all of a sudden he can't jump.

Harry McKirdy missed an absolute sitter yesterday and had about 5 shots from distance that were poor, Read and Payne both cleared the town end from goalscoring opportunities but fans want to moan about a 19 year being bullied by defenders far more experienced than him.

Yesterday much more experienced players were to blame, Conroy Illandalo McKirdy and Payne and Simpson were really poor for me and much more responsible for the draw than Simpson was

There is a reason over the last few years our players prefer playing away and think it's time the fans starting looking at ourselves in this, so fucking negative

Good post :clap:

Can’t see how a couple of posters moaning on here could affect anyone's Performance on the pitch. If people are getting on his back from the stands, fair enough. But they aren’t.

Well yes that's what i mean, the atmosphere is just shit. I was one of those who thought we need the players to get the fans going but the first half yesterday was good and still all i heard was people moaning around me when we passed sideways

The atmosphere is shit because we’ve been poor at home all season, even first half yesterday was more erratic than ‘good’. The style we play just doesn’t get the crowd involved at home as we don’t build a head of steam or sustained periods of pressure on the oppositions goal. It was noticeable when we went for it at the end of the second half the atmosphere really picked up, it’s another reason to tweak things at home.

We created loads of chances yesterday 1st half and were much better than every other home game i thought. I made a point yesterday at looking at the score board and after 4 minutes the guy next to me was moaning it was too slow and that in the premier league its quicker

The chap behind me moans about most players every week, I can’t stand him and I have to bite my lip.

Yesterday he wanted to sub Gladwin after ten minutes, then wanted to sub Hunt and Payne, then Conroy and finally it was Odimayo.
He’d have used 5 subs if he had his way.

Then he was saying this is why Conroy doesn’t usually play? This is a season ticket holder. We do have some characters as fans.

And, of course, when we got desperate towards the end the goal came about from a hopeful cross into the box where we had loads of players lurking - and none of them needed to be giants! Intricate passing as our primary Plan A was put firmly in its place!

not at all.

just pointing out he was poor yesterday and isn't a target man for a keeper to go long to.

if that makes him a scapegoat then .. well it doesn't.

Sounds like he needs to go to specsavers

At19 years old he’d be a great prospect to develop. I’d sign him in a heartbeat.

he's got bags of potential. would certainly take a punt on him, but not break the bank

So the intricate passing from left to right and back again in the build up to move a packed defence about followed  by Iandolo and Gladwin to change the angle, a cross to the back post where KKH had overloaded, exactly what he was bought on to do i suspect, had nothing to do with it.

Hardly a hopefull punt in to the box. Still just another view

My only concern with Simpson is he seems to not want to jump to challenge for headers, which is a shame as he’s a big unit and I think he needs more confidence to use his strength. Definitely a works in progress and one for the future.

We had over 9,000 fans yesterday and that was for a team that has only managed a single home win so far. If you are right? Over sensitive players should look around at other teams that play before 2,000 to 6,000. Tough life being a football player. The atmosphere, like the game was spasmodic, some good some bad. Any player that can't handle criticism and adulation in equal measure, probably isn't in the right job.
As I said earlier, this season is shaping up for a good away side but a poor home side. This is ok, we will survive the season and still be a 4th division team next year and that was perfectly acceptable a few months ago.
What this will do is affect the attendance, then the honeymoon period is over and a lot of goodwill, lost

Or Garner will tweak things in the January window and we will kick on!

Or Garner will tweak things in the January window and we will kick on!

Simpson is inconsistent. He’s young & raw. He’s had good games and bad games - for the most part - that’s what people on here seem to be saying in regards to Simpson.

Iandolo seems more a scapegoat to me.

He has strong upper body strength. Probably not conducive to vertical take off!

Just out of interest, have we scored any headed goals this season.

What he means is.

Match
Date
Teams
Time of goal
Passes
Assists
Which end the goal was scores
Attendance
Names and addresses of attendees
How much the gate receipts were
% split cash v card

Otherwise it could get confusing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wtf you on about.

What are you dribbling on about?  If we keep up the current form we will be in the play offs.  There are no doubt areas we can improve on but we are 6th and won 3 and drawn 1 in our last 4 games scoring 10 and conceding 4.

Hardly survival form

Pulling your chain, if that’s ok?

You’re a sensitive soul!

There are plenty of others making him one, my comment was a generic comment not aimed at anyone individual

au contraire

sorry, I had said the things you highlighted!

I reckon he could be quite some player in 4 or 5 seasons. I'm not sure he's ever going to be prolific, but there are plenty of good forwards who aren't.

I do think Garner dropped a bollock with 1 too many midfielders and one too few strikers though.

But given we are 6th, it could be worse :)

Simpson should have a useful footballing career at championship level (or higher).

It's a strange form of amnesia that plagues some of our fans

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I do like Iandolo but imagine Donohue getting into the same positions and whipping in decent crosses

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Yesterday was a bit mixed - we controlled the first half and should have been more than 1-0 ahead.
Rochdale changed their system at half time - pressed higher and we didn’t deal with it. I heard Garner’s post match interview on the car radio afterwards and thought he was spot on.
Both goals conceded were poor play - Critchlow gave the ball away and we were slow to recover for the first, Payne and 2 or 3 others watched the score shot on the second goal instead of challenging him / blocking the shot.
It’s good we built pressure and scored a late equaliser- a well worked build up, and could have won with late pressure.
Williams coming on brought some additional drive - I would have brought him or Gilbert on for McKirdy (rather than JML) - and his pace has a big impact late in the game. If McKirdy had scored as he should have when through one on one (Simpson was slaughtered on here for missing a one on one a few games ago) we would have won the game.
I agree with those who thought Ward was less comfortable kicking than Woolacott, which is important the way we play.
Talk about home form being poor in my view isn’t accurate -  we could and should have beaten Rochdale, Colchester and Tranmere on the balance of play / chances. The results haven’t matched performances in my view.
We have a young side with some good players and we need to get behind them and Garner, not be constantly on their backs.

PS I’d take a draw on Tuesday at Sutton, as they are going well at the moment.

As I think Rob mentioned earlier, my memory of Iandolo earlier in his time here was that he could whip a really good cross in.

not sure what's happened. me and forgetfulness, it him and his cross quality degrading

Its quite a big statement based on not a lot at the moment. he could equally be playing conference.

As with most in the league he comes across hot and cold, cold is sometimes a handful of touches. Definitely not seen enough of his shooting ability yet to see if he will make it as a consistent goalscorer. Age is definitely on his side and will be interesting to keep an eye on. I wrote off Adebayo quick enough so based on that he will probably make it!

Havent read back.

Would of been a travesty if we had lost that!

as usual i was in the TE but could still see that the goals conceded were terrible. Stand and watch.

Great equaliser and i asked the keeper how his leg was soon after.

It may be but that's how I see it. Time will tell.

Simpson will get double figures this season.

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He bloody better do.  :)

Many strikers put you writing them off on their CV.  ;)

 :( The issue is they leave swindon and get better. i need to find a swindon player that we will keep and prove me wrong.

I have faith that Simpson will get much better than where he currently is, hes only had about a dozen 1st team games so far and has shown loads of promise, I wish he was ours and not Ipswich's player.

He is a typical 19 year old, 1 good game often followed by 1 poor game, that doesnt make him a bad player it means that sometimes he just isn't consistant enough.

He does need to learn to jump though as often he seems to time his jumps so that he is way off where he should be, that will come with time and good coaching.

He often as well leads with his arms and you can't do that with modern refs, Wayne Allison used to do it all the time and it was acceptable back then as the refs rarely gave fouls for that, now a ref will give the defender the benefit 9 out of every 10 times.

I don't think he has any desire, whatsoever, to learn how to head the ball in the situations being discussed.  The way of football these days means it's probably never even coached that way either.  His desire is to have balls in at feet or the body, feel the defender and turn them or hold up and lay off.  He prefers the ball down the side of the defender where he can use his pace.

If my fear is true, then what he does need some coaching on is how to be a pest at least.  Not go up for the header but find a way of ensuring the defender has no control in clearing the ball when those high clearances come his way.  He is never going to want to be a Wayne Allison type.

Work the defender, piss off the defender, get the defender in your back pocket.

I am not sure what it is like in the UK but in America, youth players are not allowed to head the ball until they are atleast 14 i think....just stupid....when i coach 14-16 year old kids, they have no idea how to head a ball correctly and safely are are just flat out scared of it....
maybe that is the case with Simpson?