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Cant believe you chicken shits havent started one :)

Phew, that was getting close Mex. 2-1 town.

I would feel a lot more confident if lucas plays but having said that i still think we will sneak it..

Town 2 Addicks 1

we'll lose

0-0 as all home games i have been to this year have been!

i'm going for 2-1 aswell.
ward to finally hit the barn door, and paynter to keep his run going.

We're gonna win 4-0.

After the stats thread

0-1 deon burton penalty

I feel the same, Smith is ok but Lucas has better communication with the defence and i feel more confident with him in goal, Heart says 2-1 to us, Head says 2-1 to them.

smith is an able deputy.i'd be more worried about greer if anyone

what's the matter with him - I got him to score first and us to win 4-2

Everone's all so confident! (And rightly so). A nailed on defeat it is then, with posters moaning at our lack of goals from midfield/lack of strength in depth, and it'll be all doom and gloom.........Untill we beat Oldham Tuesday  :]

Tough call. 1-1 with the unlikely Simon Ferry on the scoresheet

I think we'll win. Fuck the pessimists.

1-1 draw with Austin scoring and Paynter not finding the net and failing to "do the record".

8,976 crowd probably.

I'm personally normally very much an optimist, just today with the confidence so high.....I'm not feelin it.

Nevertheless..................COME ON TOWN!

3-1 in front of 10,006 (1,200 Addicks)

If we produce a performance anywhere near the one given against Leeds we will piss it. 80% would be good enough to scrape a win against Charlton who are pretty poor at the moment but still grinding out results.

I'm very confident, in fact I'm very very confident of a Swindon win today.

You echo my thoughts but I'm trying to not think like this as it's normally the kiss of death

Their open style of play will suit us but our defence will buckle in the last 10 mins: 3-2 to Town.

Hopefully Lucus will be fit as he seems to have a calming affect on Greer!

3-1 Billy, Charlie and Wardy

For those who can't make todays game.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/london/hi/bbc_local_home/newsid_8273000/8273126.stm

3-1, a brace for charlie and one for greer

Nice. Presumably Charlton aren't busy earning Premium TV money like every other club? I've stuck it on the homepage so no one will miss it. :)

2 - 1 Town

2-1 Charlton.

my radio has suddenly decided it doesn't want to pick up radio swindon :(

We will win, howver I don't know by how much :)

Not overly confident today as they looked good when we played them at their place. Hopefully they'll continue with their more recent form. I think a lot will come down to whether or not we can keep Shelvey quiet.

Think this will be a 1-1 draw

I really dont know about this one. But i will be in the Town end giving havin it large!

i,ll be happy with a 1-0 win.   9123 crowd

3-1 austin paynter and amankwaah an shelvey for the adDICKS

looks like there only playing with sodje upfront with shelvey supporting him

What's going on with the radio link? Seems to have stopped working??

Oh no, its back :)

Sounds like we're going to have a female commentator though.

Do you know something about Vic Morgan I don't? ???

I'm listening to the BBC London link! Apparantly the Charlton fans are in the Town End. They're bigging up Charlie Austin though so we'll let them off.

Aaaah, I see. Does anyone know what's happened to Ed Hadwin?

He had a kid so is working for BBC Bristol, as it's closer to home.

She is very staccato isnt she! Her...sentences...seem..to have...unnatural......breaks!

Have you got a link to that sir?

It's at the top of the TEF homepage

i see...what...you mean.

Finding...it....very, very...annoying

I thank you.

dont think...i...can...listen...to this...much.......................longer.

You are right, she ......reallycant..... talk....... canshe...

Emma sounds....very....excitable! Her partner sounds...half.......asleep.

hit the bar already we sound in control

"Elliot stretched out an arm and turned it round the post for a goal kick"
What is she on about?

And another chance! off the bar!

Maybe.....we can....contact her.....and.....give her...our...observations!

I'll tattoo her f@ckin arse if she goes on about that again!

We're absolutely murdering them. We need to take one of these chances soon.

Here...she....is"

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Did anyone catch whether Pericard made the bench?

No he isn't

Those Charlton commentators are a couple of bell ends.

"I'm not sure where the Charlton fans are, I think they're in the C&D Town End."

Are they fuck, they're right in front of you to your left you dumb cunts.

I do hope theres not going to be any trouble what with the town end being full of charlton fans.  She sounds like she taking a crap at the same time as trying to commentate.

Haha! The commentators still can't work out where the Charlton fans are in the ground!

leeds 1-0 up

She's using love eggs

Millwall have equalised.

Charlie sounds quiet.

Millwall 1-1 Norwich

come on you reds lets get a goal before half time to shut this commentator up

I...can't ....see...us..scoring. Seem.....to be...all..over them, but....with...nothing...to..show..for..it!

my god is she actually watching the game cuz she sounds lost

Oh FFS!

Looks...as...if...Charlton...have...woken...up.......Wonder...if....there...is a...fitness...isuue...with..Town?

my god hutchinson has scored for dundee

Have Charlton scored?

Apparently they have a free kick on the right hand corner of the penalty box.  40 yards from goal.  Fuck me thats a big penalty box.

Hit the crossbar out of nothing. We then had a dodgy 5 mins.

0....-.....0. H.....T

Tannoy sounds good though

This is her biggest pause so far.  Is she dead?

Better than the commentary! Wonder if there is a comedy moment coming up?

"She only talks while they're playing"

i think shes deciding if it half time or not

And then she was gone - Notably after saying her first sentence without pause!

Suffocated?

Hey shes back!  Hooray.

Gone again ......... Heard her sniff then ....

Kidnapped by aliens?

I bet the Charlton commentary doesn't have half time ska, does it?

Nope, just....half...time....silence!

She's having a laugh surely???

please die.

Hooray. She's finally found the Charlton fans. They were obviously making their presence felt!

'Nice little red kits'

shitty 1-0 down

Millwall beating Norwich 2-1

Huddersfield winning now as well.

i cant listen to her anymore

MK 2-1 up

We really need to win as all the teams below us are winning apart from Rovers.

wow shes really is as bad as you lot are making out

5 minutes is more than enough for me

Yeeeeeees!! Maasai!

woohoo manky woohoo

GET IN BIG KEV

Mankyyyyyyyyyy!

Get in manky...

Great work Manky!!

wankaaaaaaaa wooo

hartlepool 1-1 leeds woohoo

finish em off now...

coxy jus scored for west brom

Jukebox on the mark for Motherwell again.

pompey having a mare 5-0 to manure with 3 own goals

Ooh she's getting herself in a tangle over how it's better if a keeper hurts his arm than his leg. :soapy tit wank:

Ahhhh, Leeds in front now :(

Had a...phone...call.....Missed...Emma's unique....style...in the second...half. Has...it been....a...repeat...of the...first.......half?

macklin on for austin

Yes more... of the... same. "Swindon content to sit on this 1-0 lead". Aargh.

1-1 huddersfield

i would..imagin...so.....I couldnt hack....it any...more....so turned.....her of.

Holding....on....again? Lets...hope...there is no...repeat...of the...previous...game!

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Had a...phone...call.....Missed...Emma's unique....style...in the second...half. Has...it been....a...repeat...of the...first.......half?
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A...part ... from .... the ...... goal, yes![

She had a burst of energy then with...no....pauses!

9,552 is pretty disappointing. Doesn't sound like much atmosphere either.

Just got in.  So what's happening?

JFL is capitulating.

How'd you work that one out?

Like JPM?

Crap commentary...Pauses...every...few...words.
First half...all Town....except...5 minutes Charlton dominance.
Second...half..same.....but...Wanky...scored
5 mins...left...Town...sitting back...Macklin...on...for Austin
3 mins....injury time...now

Charlton are gonna bloody equalise here!

Charlton ......cant......get.a.shot...off.

Jesus I miss radio swindon.

Now...she...says...5 mins...injury...time!

C'....mon....!...G...et....i.....t....in...to...the...cor...ner..and....waste...some...f....u...c...k..in...time!

FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surprise surprise. Bugger.

 :(

no surprise 1-1

cunt

FUCKING FUCKIN SHIT!!!!

1-1. Typical.

Fucks sake im pissed off with these late goals.

Yet a fucking gain.

ban please

:-)

Down to 6th.

SH.......IT!

This has got to stop!!

Beyond a bloody joke now
 >:(

Unless we get a late one ourselves, I think this will kill off once & for all the lingering hopes held by some that we could make the top 2.  Play offs or bust.

We must be due a late winner....

So frustrating. We would have been in a great position if we hadn't pissed away 4 points in the last two games.

Fuck me.

Please PLEASE don't anyone say...oooh, I'd have taken a point before the game. Just don't.

That is shit! That is fucking shit! Im so fucking angry that Ive listened to that awful fucking bitch most of the afternoon and Wilson has FOR THE FUCKING UMPTEENTH TIME followed a policy that DOESNT FUCKING WORK !!!!! Get it sorted as that is pure fucking bollocks!!

FFS. What do we have to do in these situations every week? Bring on Morrison for Ward  or Ferry perhaps?

Get the players fitter so that they dont fucking fade and need changing! Then make sure that we dont defend so fucking deep. Its so clear that we cant close out matched and dont have any decent options from the bench.

Yeah.

Wilson out and stuff!

POS TEAM NAME            PLD  GD PTS
 1     Norwich City          30   33   63
 2     Leeds United          28   29  61
 3     Charlton Athletic    30   20   57
 4     Colchester United   28   14   52
 5     Millwall                 29   12    49
 6     Swindon Town       27    8    49
 7     Huddersfield Town  27   20   46
 8     Franchise 29   6    46

Blah, blah, blah.

Wilson Out

Blame the usual suspects. Phil Smith, Lescinel and Aljofree.

Talk the same bollocks about fitness and concentration that aren't true.

Charlton were good and an equalizer was always on the cards.

They've done it twice against us. Wait, wait keep us in sight then go all out attack.

this is gettin stupid now if he makes a sub dont bring on macklin for austion bring on another midfielder or defender who can actually put a tackle in we have lost atleast 10 points this season because of this.

This shit happens far to often to brush it off Dave. There has to be a reason for it.

Fuck I'm pissed off. Thank God I've still got 5 One Pint cans of Stella left ::)

Did people really boo?

i heard a few boo's

Fucked off that I am, that is way, way out of order ???

Heard some on the commentary.

There ain't half some fuckwits out there.

could have just been booing the fact we let in goals late on in the game. and it was only a few fuckwits plus free speech and its true im annoyed that we could have around 59-60 points this season.

Guess it was knee jerk after another late goal against. To be fair we were as pissed off on here.

There were definitely boos

Our 'support' is fucking shit

This could have been a huge result, let out a huge ffs when they announced the goal on Football Focus, but I guess I knew it was coming

Poole drew away 1-1 at the bottom club Cowes, so a piss poor day all round

Fucking joke.

Yet again we sit back and simply lump the ball back to Charlton when we get the ball. I got critized on here by someone when I said we shouldn't sit back, and yet again we do and let another late goal in. It's no coincidence. If we knew how to close games out we'd be flying, but it just isn't happening.

If you must sit back, why you'd bring on the inexperienced Macklin is beyond me. Easton was the obvious choice i'd have thought.

Saying that, Charlton were decent, and Dailly and Sodje had our front two in their back pockets to be honest.

We absolutely must beat Oldham, or this season threatens to fizzle out into a 9th or 10th place finish.

Sheer frustration really, this is most definately not a post aimed at have a dig at Wilson, it's just annoying being so predictable when we're protecting a lead.

As for the people booing, knobheads. Although i'd say that was more aimed at the ref, who was a disgrace, although not the reason we lost.

The whole point of a successful team is that you dont worry about the other team. You put in a game plan that suits your team and you stick to it. We had chance after chance after chance in the first half. We didn't kill the game off. However, in the second half, we got to the mid way point and started to defend deep and soak up pressure.

I'm concerned that our strikers aren't scoring.

I wanted to smash the cunt sat 2 rows behind me right in the chops. Never shit up all game, and had the sort of voice that makes you want to kick dogs.

I'm as fucked off as the best of them but that's OTT. My guess is you will think the same in a few hours time.

Frustrated as fuck.


FACT!

We looked good untill we started hoofing the ball forward.

DIDNT WE LESCINEL

One thing to describe today =  ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

Can't believe we have let this happen again, although I thought Charlton would get one back as they got far more into the game in the 2nd half.

First 30 mins we looked good and controlled the game but after that, a little shakey but we did have several chances.

Austin didn't really do much today but was suprised to hear several critical texts on the radio about Paynter as I thought he did well again seeing as he was being used as a climbing frame for a lot of the game.

Thought Amankwah did well too and was going to say Lescinel wasn't bad until he nearly cost us a goal with a sloppy pass.

Again, some good stuff in the first 30 mins but we let ourselves go and let them into it.  I don't get why we seem to lose concentration toward the end and once or twice a season I could forgive but two weeks in a row is taking the piss.

With the subs he made, its clear the squad is very thin so I'd definitely like to see Wilson pursue the faces he mentioned earlier in the week at the very least.

As for the idiots who booed - I'd be quite happy to see them bugger off and not bother coming back.  The result was frustrating, yes, but you simply cannot boo a 1-1 with Charlton whatever the circumstances.

If we play like we have been playing recently, we'll win Tuesday relatively easily.

One positive thing though is after getting decent results against Leeds and Charlton, it does show we aren't a world apart from the top teams so play offs in my opinion are definitely a possibility.

Ferry is on now basically saying we've got to keep the ball better.

We do. Was the same against leeds, when they had a spell at looking dangerous either side of half time.

How much of that is down to ineptitude on our part and how much due to good play by the opposition is a bit harder to determine

He wasn't ginger was he?

His best one was 'Shut up Dailly you Scottish prick' which considering 4 of our players in the starting lineup were Scottish, I found quite funny. Funny in a 'I almost hope we concede because you're such a cunt' kind of way.

I think I'm frustrated at the fact that we have got ourselves into really good positions in a number of matches and thrown it away. If we do well enough to get to the playoffs, which is a possibility and not a certainty, I would not be confident of our chances.

When we were good in the 80s, under Macari, you could almost guarantee that there would be games where we were utter shite for 89 minutes but would always find a way to get a result. We appear to have made massive improvements under Wilson, but its obvious that we aren't the finished article yet.  

Probably true. Few beers and i'll be singing Eieieio.

I wish we wouldn't try and hold on to leads as we are not very good at it. It's cost us 4 points against Charlton, and if we had that we'll be right behind them with games in hand.

But we should've been at least 2 goals up from the first 35 minutes that we dominated.

But we never get anything with tis ref Andy Hall. He gave that penalty to Hartlepool in the last minute last season, when he was the only person in the ground, who thought it was a penalty, and we should've had a pen in the first half for handball, and another in the second when Billy was bundled to the ground (an exact replay of the foul happened 10 minutes later outside the box, and we were awarded a free kick).

Charlton were moaning from the first minute, and I lost count how many times Sodje (18) went down like he'd been shot. I thought they were poor and there for the taking. Their only decent bit of possession were 10 minutes at the end of each half.

Just got in, so sorry if this repeats what's been said.

Two points dropped thanks to Wilson's poor choice of subs - we looked quite comfortable until he replaced Austin with Macklin, which seemed to send a message to the rest of the team to sit back and defend (or hit it long). I know Austin wasn't at his best but he wasn't tired so why change it?

Hopefully we'll put a few past Oldham so we don't have to worry about the last 5 minutes! :(

'Holding on' to leads is just shit. End of.

You carry on doing the things that got you a goal up in the first place
(that is my personal message to Danny Wilson)

The boos were directed at the ref, I thought.

It sounds like we could have really used Pericard today. Oh well ::)

I thought it was a great game between two good, battling sides, both of whom look like they lack that little bit of quality and creativity to challenge the top two.

Amankwaah and JPM were superb, as were Dougie and Ferry IMO. However, Greer gave away too many silly fouls again, in particular the one in the left back area late on. JFL still hasn't convinced me yet. Good enough cover but positioning and distribution were both suspect I thought.

Regarding late goals, I have a theory that when the opposition throw caution to the wind, the midfield four who obviously drop to help the back four out are all quite small and weak in the air, we lose the first ball and then switch off.

Still, a win on Tuesday and today will prove to be a good point.

If he is there next week I'll get there first...

My report before I read back through the post game comments:

For the first 40 minutes of the match Swindon dominated the the game with skillfull football and incisive passing. Charlton for their part looked clueless and set up to frustrate and niggle away at the Town players rather than do any meaningful attacking of their own.

They were helped along in their quest by an extremely lenient referee who whilst unbiased let a number of challenges go (by both teams) that could have been yellow cards.  Refs can't win, I'm unhappy at the card happy ones and equally at the ones who left their book in the dressing room.

As the half progressed Town piled on the pressure, however a number of attacking moves came to nothing with the recently brilliant Paynter and Austin unable to 'click' in the same way as the previous 10 games or more. That would always happen at some point, a shame Perricard was unavailable as an option in the second half then. Towns closest effort came when a corner was headed onto the bar by Greer. Douglas had gone close with an earlier low drive, Ferry blasted a shot at Paynter and these chances were by no means the only ones that went begging. And failure to convert these eventually proved costly.

On 40 minutes Charlton turned from being non-league into showing why they are 3rd in league, putting pressure on Swindon and thumping the bar with a piledriver from their first shot of the game.

The second hald was a scrappier affair wih Charlton intent on niggling and whining their way through the game devoid of any skill. At least it was that way until out goal went in. The goal came from a well worked short corner  flicked on for big Kev to hit in on the far post. From that point Charlton decided they could attack and for most of the half we dealt with it.

But this is Swindon, the longer the half went on the more intent we seem to drop deeper and hoof the ball back to the opposition. And when the board went up showing 5 minutes there could be only one outcome. The dreaded late equaliser. Deja vu, twice Deja vu, a deja vu without end. 

Where I spat my dummy and went mental at the radio last week, this week I didn't even flinch.

Anyway in summary we should have won. I was very very disappointed with Charlton who looked like hopeless cloggers for 60 of the 90 minutes, which was clearly a game plan as they showed they could play at times. Their support really is fucking shit in numbers (given their home attendances) and in voice . Oh and they had a drum. Need I say more.

My MOM. JPM - he was, here, he was there, he was ....

90+3 according to the beeb ::) Oh well, time for a few beers to drown my sorrows

@leefer

Arlesford 1 Brock 1

I think he might have been yeah. Knob

Thanks....just back,really enjoyed that match...Amankwah and JPM superb,all i ask is for 100%...we got that plus some real quality football at times...a few players looked jaded but lets not forget that Charlton arnt mugs...well played Town and i for one will be investing in my first season ticket for years on the 15th.....Well played Town.

Good write up batch.

I feel on this occasion we were pushed back by Charlton rather than us sitting back.

I can understand waiting and attacking with 9 men but they did the same today. Why didn't they attack us from the start?

Anyone who wasn't at the match today - your opinion doesn't count so stop your moaning and get back to your armchair/championship manager etc

Charlton were just a shit crystal palace
Swindon weren't much better

tight scrappy affair a draw was about right.

no big dramas lets keep things in perspective now, we're sixth in the league!!


e i e i e i o!!

Yeah fuck offf bancock red, rich pullen et al. Coming here with your opinions and shit

Well, that's me told then.

Yes if we'd had him Wilson probably would have made the change earlier and we certainly would have retained the ball better. Okay I say certainly but I mean it would be pretty likely.

As for Greer I thought he was very good second half. I know it is now fashionable to knock him but he headed what needed to be headed and got Lescinel out of gaol after his major error.

We needed to have put them away first half - and with Charlie's chance - you would have expected him too but after that they clearly got dramatically better and in Shelvey and their number two they've got some good players and a massive squad. Ours, by contrast, is too thin in many areas.

Why do so many people have to get on LJF's case all the time? He had another excellent game today, put in plenty of good challenges, played plenty of great balls yet he one mistake and everyone is all over him.

Ward made plenty of mistakes today and was pretty anonymous for the entire game, yet receives no criticism.

And how about the twat (which may have been Ward) who had an open goal from six yards and managed to hit a Swindon player instead of the net? Its mistakes like that which cost us points, not a mistake that results in a corner that is cleared.

Francois wasn't awful. Was just the most guilty of hoofing the ball aimlessly forward in my eyes

Just got back from the game

Charlton were a poor side and if Swindon make the playoffs then based on todays performance, i'd be happy to play Charlton over two legs.

First 40 minutes it was all Swindon,  we hit the bar and there was a good chance with the goal line scramble.  Charlton hit the cross bar on about 40 mins and then played some decent stuff until half time.

Second half was more scrappy but Swindon were on the front foot and got a goal which their play deserved.  After this i thought Charlton would pepper Swindons goal but it never really happened.  I felt comfortable that we would win the game, but it didnt happen unfortunately.

Thought we played well overall.  Only criticism is the fact that when we had the ball in the last 5 minutes, all of our team pushed really high up the pitch.  This enabled Charlton to counter attack and ultimately lead to their equaliser.

We need Pericard back however as Macklin isnt league 1 standard im afraid

I think that was Ferry.

It was Ferry who hit Billy from six yards. Yes Ward did nothing first half- bar two or three dreadful touches. But then second half he came into it and put in one glorious cross. I'm not attacking Lescinel anyway, I was defending Greer.

evening all.disapointed at the result but not the performance.today was very similar to last week,as we were superb first half let the opposition back into it and end up drawing.
still, just like last week there are plenty of positives.
we have a good team now, and played some really nice football in the firts 35 mins or so.
amankwaa and jpm were awesome first half and ferry pulled the strings in the middle.nearly all the others all did their jobs well.
we could have gone 2 up, and on another day we would have.ward was anonomous and struggled to get in the game(he improved second half)
tail end of the half they came back into it and second half was pretty even,and a tad direct from both teams.not pretty.

no doubt jfl will be this weeks scapegoat(smith was last week)but he did ok overall.dunno why he wasn't near the man for their goal, and will need to see the goal on tv to know if he was at fault.but his sister is missing, and the team in general became sloppy so can't be to harsh on the lad.

toss up between ferry,greer and mank for mom i reckon.
i thought ferry's use of the ball was superb exept when near goal(1 cracking long range effort though to be fair)
greer was a proper trojan today and i thought he superb.put his body on the line time and time again.
mank was up and down and got a goal.very good show from him.
i thought the side tired quite alot and a change in the middle could have been done.2 weeks on the trot austin gets subbed when infront and we end up drawing.
for me maclin could have done more running.he came on for a few mins and should have busted a gut,but didn't.
anyway, a point against one of the better sides so never mind.

I think i was at a different match today. The first 30 minutes we slaughtered them and should have been ahead. Apart from Shelvey Charlton were a bunch of cheating, diving, whinging bastards who got away with a lot of shit because the referee was a complete incompetent. How the lad never got a yellow for the challenge on Greer is beyond me.
For me, Greer was the MOM. He put in some superb challenges as did Cuthbert. Ferry and Douglas were great first half but went missing in the 2nd - allowing Charlton to piss thruogh the midfield unchallenged where the back 4 did really well.
Manky and JPM also played really well. Manky took his goal like a striker.
From what I can remember they had 1 shot on target which went in and Lucas might as well have got his deckchair out.
Charlton were shit and this is very much 2 points lost.  

Well then Ferry is a twat. The whole fucking goal to aim at and he hits a Swindon player. Twat.

That miss cost us as we were well on top at the time and could have gone on to win easily from there.

he goes to peices infront of goal, but had a cracking game overall.if he had goals in his game he'd be in celtics side

Most that has to be said has been said already, so will just add a few peripheral points
3 points...

anyone else who says "we would have lost that game last season", either on here or by text, ffs move on, that is a boring out of date comment.

I recall people saying this about charlton at the valley, but fuck me what a whinging load of fucks. Every foul against them , arms in the air.

For those not at the game dissapointed about the last minute goal, charlton had a lot of pressure last 10, it was coming.

Agree with most of everything already written, just think that our free-scoring and much vaunted attack had a bit of an off day, nobody was bad, just didn't seem to be on top of their game as they usually are.  The body language from the front two was poor today and they looked very frustrated at times.  I actually though Cuthbert was outstanding today, very solid and cultured.  Why, oh why, does Greer have to give those stupid free kicks away, the one in the left back position was plain stupid but overall thought he had a decent game.  The only down side today was Lecs distribution.

I thought Douglas disappeared in the last 15 minutes. Sometimes you have to assume that the opposition are going to throw the kitchen sink at it, and it's not a voluntary dropping back and defending.

We had enough chances to win it in the first half. And I thought it was Greer who hit the bar, not Douglas

So Ferry plays a brilliant game,gets awarded the mom but is still a twat? Tad harsh don't you think?

It was, I was wrong.

Today made me realise how thin the squad is. With the exception of Morrison and Pericard (and perhaps, in time, O'Brien) I don't get the sense that we've got first team calibre players on the bench.

We certainly don't have players who can come on and change a game. Macklin got in four great positions in the first five minutes he was on and looked like a rabbit in the headlights each time.

Our first eleven rocks, but we're a team not a squad.

I thought we looked as good as ever when we played the ball on the deck. The periods when Charlton got into the game were when we played the head-tennis routine which suited them.

Agree that Austin and Paynter didn't seem to click today, but as good as our midfielders are at times, they didn't give the front lads that much in the way of guilt edge service.

Austin looked deeply disturbed when he dragged his shot wide. The look on his face was one of complete fucking shock, almost as if that's the first time he's not got a shot on target. He was pretty ordinary after that and I think Wilson may of swapped him for Pericard a lot earlier than he did Macklin, had he been fit. All part of his massive learning curve though.

Paynter reverted to type today. A coincidence that Austin was off his game?

Macklin looks like he has potential but badly needs 1st team experience. I'd fuck him off on loan for a couple of months in the hope that he'd come back a much better player towards the end of season run in.

If we keep playing our own game for 90 minutes, on the floor, like we did against Leeds, we'll be OK.

Squad is still paper thin though. I'll be well fucked off if we went into decline after one or two injuries or suspensions. Marshal, Macklin etc aint good enough for a promiotion chasing side.
 

same as before but with my addition of vitriol aimed at a spastic ref and his assistants who managed to re-write rules and stop the game for no discernable foul or genuine foul alike. i found it frustrating both were treated the same way ie-no booking

interesting points all round.

Lecs was out of position for the goal As wilson said some players were going forward when they shouldn't However I thought he was excellent otherwise

shit happens.

thought we were excellent. so solid at the back bar the goal, greer was just immense. Ferry superb in the middle with JPM

Doulglas still good perhaps although not as commanding as in recent weeks. Ward also quiet but he's young and still learning.

Not gonna complain too much. I was pig sick at the final whistle but on reflection another ace peformance. Some times you get the breaks - others you don't.

We were superb again today. Keep playing like that and we'll defo make the play-offs.

Onwards and upwards. After Huddersfield we have a good run of very winnable games.

Just think: we're gutted after drawing with charlton.Shows how far we've come. No?

Good point, Juddie.

We're all fucked off because we didn't dick a top side like Charlton. Shows exactly how far we've come under Fitton and Wilson.

The cunts need to keep it up though. They've set the bar high. No letting up now ;)

Decent result against 3rd in the league- but how much better would it have felt if we had been 1 down and equalised in the 93rd minute. Why cant we do it for a change?

Think people are more disappointed in the nature of the result. How many times this year have we conceded in the last 5 minutes of a game? It is taking the piss now to be honest. I can recall the following games where it has happened:

Oldham (A)
Wycombe (H)
Exeter (A)
Millwall (H)
Charlton (A)
Southend (A)
Charlton (H)

We seem to sit far too deep in games especially in the last 15 minutes, inviting the opposition to come onto us. Must cut this out of our game if we are to maintin top 6.

it's a fucking abomination we didn't win today. Charlton had 10 minutes in the first half when they played well - really turned it on, but we dominated overall and were clearly the better side. Some of our football was immense. I'm not just talking about the one-touch football, but just watching our players having the confidence to have time on the ball... Even Cuthbert and Greer, as much as I liked Jerel - they're a different class.

 Ferry and Douglas, the amount of times they take a touch turn and look around... we're fucking great to watch.

We won't win every game and we haven't got the strength to do top two, but I've not enjoyed watching town as much for years, and if we can keep it up we're a shoe-in for the play-offs.

People complaining we didn't close it out today forget how fortunate we were to win at stockport.

Win some, lose some.. we've played another promotion favourite off the park.

We're fucking ace and I'm loving it.

Plus, if we did win every game it'd be too easy. And that's not the Swindon way!

must admit though, the late goal thing is baffling.

My heart sank when the 4th official said 5 minutes :(

Good post, that's the kind of reality I like.

I've been filled with rage since the game, not really because of the game, but the spastic sat next to me and the parking ticket on my windscreen upon leaving. I feel thoroughly relaxed about it all now. Do you offer therapy sessions? :)

if we continue as we are the points will take care of themselves.we'll make the play offs for sure if we can avoid injuries.

did you see their goal today with the ball over our defence after they pushed up?

Just seen  the goals. What the fuck was JFL thinking for their goal? FWIW I think he had a really good game today, but that one lapse of concentration was crucial.

Ifilitis can strike anyone without warning. 'Tis a cruel infiction with no known cure.

The ref was inept and the linesman over the DRS side obviously had an injury which meant it was painful to lift his arm unless the ref told him to.

The whistle for halftime was when the ball was out of play, due to us winning a corner. OUT OF PLAY YOU FUCKNUGGET!

Having said all that a draw was probably a fair result. Charlie and Billy worked hard, but didn't seem to get into many decent positions in front of goal. Midfield were, for the most part, very good. JPM had some sublime touches, particularly in the first half and he and Manky seem to have a great understanding of each others game. Lesch was Lesch! We know he makes the odd blunder, but overall he played well. The thing that worries me when he's involved in the play is that he looks so fucking nonchalant! Ward didn't look the player he was against Leeds. Greer needs to damage his head before every game. After he got it bandaged I thought he was awesome, winning almost everything. Lucas didn't have much to do and the goal wasn't his fault, more a collective effort to fuck it up.

Wilson said on the radio interview after the game that the players panic towards the end and stop doing the things they've been told to do.

All the people on here who say we should just continue to play our normal game when defending a 1-0 lead, with 10 minutes to go haven't really thought things through. Teams will attack in numbers to earn a draw, meaning we have to defend in numbers. The problem is that the players don't seem to be able to adapt to that and lose concentration. It's certainly an issue, but I don't think it's down to Wilson entirely.

On to Tuesday night... 

Agree with you Hertha. Chalrton threw everything at us after we scored. They clearly came for a point and they got it. I had a feeling they would line up with 4-5-1 and that they would play some hoof ball. These sort of teams are up there because they make it difficult for the footballing teams to play their game. It's how teams like Plymouth have won this league in the past. Sadly we got dragged into their game after 30 mins and we didn't really know what to do. As for their goal people moan that we sit back all the time but when we did go forward we got caught on the break so what good was it? Frustrating but oh well.

I know we beat Leeds 3-0 which was quite frankly a superb result and deserved at that, however I really feel like we are due to thrash someone by 5/6 (although that team should have been Leeds with the chances we had)!  I know we put 4 past tranmere but i'd love to see us put several past a struggling side.  The problem is, its the struggling sides we seem to scrape results against!

In the grand scheme of things, the above is pretty irrelevant as long as we continue to pick up points, however it just feels like we are due to obliterate someone!

Well we scored 3 past Yeovil and Gillingham Luci. Oldham don't score many at all and apparently they play a negative game so we can expect yet another 4-5-1 team on Tuesday night.

we defend to deep and panic - Lucas boots a goal kick upfield with 3 mins to go - it's pinged back and they score - maybe he'll think a bit better next time.

  More or less 27% of our goals conceded this season have been in the last 5 mins...Houston we have a problem.

 

The problem lies with the substitutions,I think i read somewhere we have a good team but not a good squad,whoever said that was spot on in my eyes,I just hope we can get these players that DW is after then i think it will cure our late goal problem.

Im delighted we have come so far since last season and never expected us to be in this position,I hope the booing was aimed at the ref and not the performance.

 

I thought we looked a pretty damned good side yesterday, best for many a year.  Yes our subs are not as good, but it's amazing that we've got so many better players than we had last year (and some of them are the same player in name).

I, despite the late goal, feel quietly confident that we'll do well in the play offs now which is well above my pre season expectations.  It's a delight to attend games knowing we'll at least have good length spells of good football, entertainment and effort.

Referee Hall is one of those refs who think people pay money to watch him. He gave so many unessesary free kicks to both sides, he didnt quite ruin the game, but with another ref I think it would have been a much better game to watch. Refs like Hall (letter of the law refs) drive me mad because they have reduced the spectacle of league football, made it such a soft game.

All this stuff about Wilsons substitutions is a bit harsh. Austin was closely marked all game and struggled to get into it. Once again our home fans have to give Macklin some time, its hard to find your touch for the last 10 minutes of a game.

The reason we lost out is because we only managed 1 goal and they had a man over, in the box, unmarked to pass to. If a Swindon player is tracking back with him then he doesnt score. Charlton are OK, but Shelvey is the only player Id love to see at Swindon.

We should have had all 6 points off Charlton, dropping points in these sort of games means that our outside shot at an automatic place is all but over. Players need to concentrate for next week. Oldham won at Tranmere so their confidence will be up. Huddersfield have slipped out of the play offs and will be desperate to get some points off a team in the play off places. Im a bit nervous about it, still a lot of games, a lot of points still needed for the play offs.

Except that we didn't lose Spencer!

hall decided that the ruling about playing on even if someone's down had to be changed yesterday, he's a complete clown

 I'm not sure there is one single underlying issue, but we had the same problem last season, and it very nearly took us down, rather than comfortably  mid table...this season, it looks to have undermined a shot at the top 2, but I suppose, that is only right and proper, because it indicates we're not quite good enough.

 As regards PO's if we do make it...doesn't bear thinking about....there's plenty who've yet to get over Brighton  :sofa:

I meant to say lost out on 2 more points BK
Meant to say lost out on 2 more points Bangkok Red!!!!!

And forgot to say, the linesman must be Hall's bumchum. He spent more time watching the ref than the game, and always waited for Hall's decision. Prick.

One more thing. How come there were so many Police in the ground yesterday???!!! It was Charlton, not Millwall. They cost a fortune.

Good point...way to many stewards as well....can understand the dodgy matches but there were yellow coats everyware.....maybe its a topic the trust could get there teeth into.
Back to the game and ive got to say how nice it is to watch the Town at present..some of our football was breathtaking yesterday...as for the late goals its incredibly frustrating and without them we would be pressing for auto promotion....its still not ut of the question as if the games in hand are won ware in the mix....some games are going to be scrappy and if we can did results from them ones we will be in the mix.

Very disappointed with the result, not disappointed with the performance. Nowhere near the high level we showed against Leeds though.
A couple of things for me yesterday - Charlie had his worse game of the season but he is allowed that.
Paynter, he must have a sore back and neck, how many times was he fouled without the ref having a word with the Charlton player.
Highlight Paynter throwing the centre back over his head when he jumped on his back yet again late in the second half, that was brilliant.
How many snipers were in the crowd yesterday, the Charlton players seem to fall down without cause on many occasions.
Charlton are a poor side imo, and there fans, fucking drum were crap as well.
The ref was fucking shite, bottled most decisions, if that wasn't a foul on Paynter in the penalty area when he was jumped all over again on his back, when was given as a free kick everywhere else on the pitch.
And last but not least - Macklin is crap, he will never make it in this grade as long as I have a hole in my arse.

I thought the strangest decision by the ref was when their keeper got injured when Austin chased a through ball. There was no sign of any contact and the ref didn't give a free kick, then their keeper stands up and starts holding his chest. Then the ref blows, the trainer comes on and he restarts the game with a free kick - he never have a fick and it should have been a drop ball. I know he would have just dropped the ball to the keeper but still, it was a mistake.

Having looked at their goal on the highlights it looked to me like LJF didn't see the man behind him or lost track of him. He had plenty of time to cover him but didn't, he seemed to be trying to cover an imaginary player. Strange, but still a mistake he really shouldn't have made.

But it was the entire team that turned to shit and the goal could have come from anywhere. On the highlights show Claridge suggested it was due to a lack of leadership when it mattered. Maybe he has a point - Lucas, Greer and Douglas should be stepping up at times like that and I didn't see any evidence of it. Not blaming them, but something is wrong and Wilson needs to fix it.

Maybe he should have put Morrison on for Austin and switched to a 5-4-1 to provide extra cover?

Phil Parkinson in the NOW today:

We knew Swindon were prone to letting in late goals so we never gave up

Sys it all really

Anyone who saw him start at McDons, saw him skip past players like they werent there would disagree.

Honestly, I cant use any other word than 'beautiful' to describe the football he was playing. Giggsesque. Hes had the full force of a frustrated crowd at the CG and not showed much at home, so its no wonder hes nervous.

Its only because JPM has had such a good season that he hasnt started more games. Give the lad a chance!

I didnt see the MK game, I've heard great reports about the lad from others on here and would love to see him being a top player. One game doesn't make him a good player nor a bad player (re Franchise) every player has one of those great games. Consistency is the name of the game at this level and on his home form he has locked like a useless schoolboy He runs around like a headless chicken who has no football awareness of the situation around him, yesterday was a stupid substitution from the management at a crucial stage of the game imo.

Saying that it is very hard to come on as a sub and be an influence in the game, but being a professional footballer, especially a young and supposedly hungry professional footballer is what it is all about.

If we dont get the best out of him then someone else will.

Hes got the ability to take on players, and who doesnt want to see a bit of that?!

If you are right, then loan him out, maybe in the Conference or Div One and let him start matches and get the games under his belt. Keep using him as a sub is not going to help his confidence and improve his consistency.

Hhopefully it would toughen him up as well. Unfortunately I think Wilson fears him comming back ruined, in bits.

And that is his real downfall, worries about injuries.

Went straight on the lash after the game yesterday and the world has finally stopped spinning enough for me to fall out of bed and read the thread.

1-1 against Charlton has to be an ok result - certainly no need to boo the team.

As others have said we are playing some very good football and the entertainment value is very high.

I don't entirely agree that Charlton pushed us back towards the end. As soon as we scored our midfield retreated about 10 yards and we invited them on to us.

A question about the rules of the game. If an outfield player receives treatment from the physio they have to leave the field of play before being let back on - is therre a different rule for goalkeepers?

Yeah goalkeepers don't have to leave the field.
Think it's just simply so the goal isn't left empty.

I think congrats must go to the guy who looks after the pitch. Its still in excellent nick - he's done a great job.
On reflection I think Charlton's players were even bigger whingers and cheaters than either Leeds or Millwall and thats some achievement.

Indeed, he was awesome up at MK. Although I dont think they had their strongest line up out that night.

He performs better away from home, our fans have been totally on his back since his first touch against Leyton Orient last year. It is far from a coincidence he plays better away from home.

I do agree that he needs games at a decent level but our sqaud isnt huge. I'd try to get him out on loan to someone in L2.

Couldnt believe how negative charlton were to start, the shot against the bar was literally their 1st of the game. They seemed to think we were Man Utd or something with the ammount of respect they gave us.

It makes it even more puzzling beacuse they looked a decent side to me when they actually had a go at us. But we should have been winning by at least 2 at that point. Although I have to agree with other posters that Charlton gave Millwall a run for thier money in the moaning and cheating stakes. The ref didnt help that either.

Its hard not to be pissed off that we've dropped 4 points in the last 2 games and maintain the sense of perspective that we have a good side and are doing well. there's always the "what if" scenario that we could be 3 or 4 points behind charlton with 3 games in hand. Its even more annoying that Norwich lost and leeds drew yesterday.

On the positive side, A win against Oldham, a point against Huddersfield then 3 very winable games against stockport, Carlisle and Leyton oriient coming up

I really think we'll make the play offs as long as we dont get long term injuries to 3 or 4 key players

I think we'll get more than 80 points this season, which will be easily good enough for the Play Offs.  People weren't/aren't seriously considering we'd be in with a shout of the automatic spots were/are they?  We are a good team, and playing some good football were a match for most teams, but when we are little off colour we don't have the little bit extra to still get win after win.  Finishing in the top 6 this season will be a master stroke by everyone involved, especially following the near wrist slitting that was going on at the start of the season after Cox went and we weren't going to score for toffee.

Like Luci said, I can really see us taking a team apart before the end of this season and with Oldham, Carlisle and Stockport as our next 3 home games it could be one of them.

I must admit i'm worried that we'll just miss out on the play-offs. I obviously hope I am wrong. The reason I think that though is because this league is so strong. You have to look at our points per game ratio and normally we'd be top 3 or 4 easily with it. But we're 6th. Even with going 8 unbeaten Millwall have somehow overtaken us. The top 8 are starting to run away from the rest of the pack and I think all 8 will end up with a decent points haul come May. Our goal difference or our dropped points will be what sees us miss out sadly. It's been a bloody good season though so we can't grumble.

To be fair, i've seen nowt from macklin to suggest he's ready for the first team now.

Not going to write him off completely yet though

If you take the games in hand in to account its only the top 2 that are clear and the next 6 all pretty close, no more than 3-6 points between them which is nothing at this stage of the season. We just have to keep things going as they are and we'll make the playoffs easily.

I reckon 75 points will be enough, it normally is for 6th, so we're only 26 points away which is 9 wins and a piece of piss. We'll confirm our playoff place with a game or two to go. Probably.

Defense was ball watching for their goal.

Just got home.

Gutted to lose 2 points so late on.

We started off very well and I am sure that if we had scored in the first 30 minutes when we were on top Charlton would have sunk without trace. However they came more into the game and hit the bar with a good move. Second half was quite even, well worked Amankwaah goal and we looked like we were going to hold on until we switched off and poor defending allowed Charlton to steal the point.

Player wise - Lucas. Solid, feel confident with him in goal

Defence - Cuthbert is a great defender, oozes class. Greer I think is a bit shakey, his method of going up to win headers is always putting his hands on the other players back and to me he runs the risk of conceding lots of free kicks. Lesh is great one minute and then a bombscare the next and I love Amankwaah bombing forward to support.

Midfield - Best part of the team. Ferry was excellent and McGovern never stopped running, he really wants a new contract! Douglas solid and no nonsense as usual

Strikers - Austin and Paynter were quiet today. Charlton defended well and Charlie didn't get a kick. When Macklin came on, for the first 5 minutes I wondered if he was actually a footballer as his touch was woeful. Improved and gives us pacey options on the bench. Seems to have grown as well.

Overall we were better than Charlton and I wouldn't be surprised if we finished above them. Think we need about 3 more in the squad in case of injuries/suspensions etc.

Fair comment, let's not forget he was a youth teamer last year and he has broken his leg this season!  Better judges than us have seen him play during his formative years and really rated him.  Sadly he needs games, and he's not getting many at the moment with the woeful situation regarding the reserves and game time.

Shame to concede another late goal but a good point none the less.

I thought first half, we played really well, some great football down the right hand side with Kev and JPM. Charlotn were woeful first half with Shlevy having there only chance. We could and should have been 2 or 3 up at half time.

Second half, we didnt pass the ball aswell as we had been doing in the first half. The corner for the goal was well worked and Manky took it well. We then just sat back and as soon as 5 minutes went up, you knew what was going to happn.

But at least we still have games in hand on everyone else around else. And the linesman on thne DRS side was a total cock, he didnt know how to use his flag, apart from when he gave Charlotn a throw when the ball clearly never went out.

Dont know why he keeps bringing Austin off-if Pericard's on the bench ok but yesterdays change was unfathomable to me,Macklin was not the option in my opinion,have to say Easton was the one to bring on the way the game was going .Not complaining about the performance,Im really enjoying the football we're playing at the moment,just frustrated like everyone else.However,cant agree that Charlton looked a good side and as someone said,I'd love to get them in the play-offs.

Austin had hurt his neck again and looked a bit tired from the look of things.

For the first 30 minutes we were playing arguably the best football we have all season - good enough to be challenging for the playoffs in the Championship, let alone Division One. Charlton might not have looked that good at first glance but they were handling everything we threw at them and looked pretty solid at the back.

I'd happilly take Charlton in the play offs if we both get there. I thought they were shit. A decent pair of centre backs who got away with murder every time they challenged and Shelvey was decent. I didn't think we were that great yesterday but much too good for Charlton. We just got dragged down by the refereee's inability to let the game flow and his complete indulgence in their wanky tactics. Another day, another ref we'd have mullered them. I hope we get the chance.
There was only one decent team on show yestersday.

I think its the first time I've seen Charlie miss a chance.

I thought it was a good game and enjoyed it.

Shame about the goal given away,,,,,It was Paynter or Macklin i think who didnt bother to go for the header that led to the goal.

Onwards to Oldham!

Although the ref was crap austin was lucky not to get booked or sent off,did anyone else see him kick out at one of the charlton players around the halfway line,any other ref i think he would have been sent off.It wasn't as if the ref did't see it either.

That was paynter wasn't it?

Quite. I saw the look of disbelief on his face from the Town End. Charlie - keep your feet on the ground lad, it won't go in every single time.

Having said that I was talking to one of his uncles in the CGH a couple of games back and we can be reassured that his family won't let him get delusions of grandeur.

I could have sworn it was austin,maybe someone else can confirm ?

It was Austin. Quite surprised the Charlton player didn't make more of it.

Not sure i'd fancy that lot at Wembley. I think Shelvey and Bailey would shine. Thought they were better than Leeds, first half an hour aside.

I'm a little bit gutted tbh, we had a right sniff of automatic and we've buried it with 2 wanky late defensive lapses in a week.

Just watched the highlights and I can not believe we did not win that game and what Lesci was doing for there goal god only knows he completely switched off and let Bailey run around the back of him, they have used up all there get of jail free cards on us this season lets just hope we have the chance to stuff it down there throats in the play-offs.

Macklin has only played a couple of games since recovering from his broken leg so of course he's off the pace a bit, who wouldn't be.  He needs to be playing regular match day football so I definitely agree that a spell on loan would do him the world of good.

i agree macklin didn't have aclue where to go or what to do, get him out on loan till end of season then have him bk for next. if he is as good as they recon he will be first team next season.

Also don't know why Wilson puts Macklin on as a striker because he's plays right-mid!!!

Because he's well capable of playing in a stand in strikers role and has the pace to worry defender's,It could't have been easy for him coming into a game like that and the problem was he was trying a bit to hard to impress the management,and by doing so his first touch was not very good.The lad just needs time he'll be fine in time im sure.

Just watched the highlights. The move when Paynter blocked Ferry's shot was ace and the goal was a very well worked set piece.

I'm going to try to get to more games before the end of the season, the bbc make us look immense.

No they don't. Missed out loads of fantastic play in the first half. There was a 5 one touch pass move including a through ball back heel pass from JPM into the path of Manky.

Fucking class.

Having now actually watched it, that bit is in there :)

Their goal was a catalogue of errors.

Ward was a few yards away from the player that scored when the ball broke, yet he appears to just stand on the half way line scratching his arse rather than get back and cover - he was nowhere to be seen when the ball went in. As soon as the ball was played forward Ward should have been running hell for leather to cover.

JFL's position when they broke was fine and he got back in time, but he never looked around and so totally missed the player that scored coming in behind him. Amankwaah saw him and should have either shouted at JFL to cover him or got over quicker himself.

But then it was a bit of bad luck that the ball somehow got past JFL, Amankwaah and Lucas (who maybe should have done better).

You are being very hard on Lucas, no keeper in the world would have saved that, he drilled it very hard and low.

I dont think lucas could see through the crowd of players.

Whilst I agree Lescinels performances in the past 3 games have improved significantly he is still very much the weak link.  Watch the goal back on the TV and he completely switches off for Charltons goal leaving the man completely free with all the time in the world to pick his spot.  It was the same at Orient last week for 75 mins he kept there winger under wraps and then last 15 he switched off and got torn apart allowing the winger to get cross after cross into the box as Orient chased the equaliser.  Lescinel is adequate cover nothing more nothing less, the sooner Sheehan comes back the stronger we will look.

I keep banging on but you defend from the front.

The highlights of the second goal show the black Charlton defender winning a free header...that is shocking in my book.

Highlights do not show the defender running 20 yards to win it!!!

i noticed that too flash.i put that down to our centre mids being dead on their feet by then.
at least one of them should have been subbed

You can't blame everything on JFL. For the Charlton goal Ward was equally at fault, why didn't he get back?

It wasn't JFL that gave the ball away either, pretty much everyone was losing the ball towards the end.

To single out JFL is just ignoring the failings of the other players and is pointless.

We'd be top of the league if it wasnt for JFL

Why would Ward be marking there winger/striker? last time I checked thats the left back's job, if he had stayed switched on and marked his man tightly we would of seen the result out.

Bailey is a midfielder and he broke down the centre of the pitch. If anything it was Greer's man, but he had to move over to cover Cuthbert who had to move over to cover Amankwaah who was out of position. None of which excuses Ward for standing on the half way line and not bothering to cover, if he had there is a very good chance he'd have been in the right place to block the ball played to Bailey.

Whether it's deserved or not - No Swindon Town squad is complete without a scapegoat.

smith was the scapegoat last week.

there are many reasons why we didn't win the last 2 games.i'd say the 2 major factors are fatigue and missed chances.picking out individuals for points missed is a bit daft.

Obviously Paynter's fault, not only did he not score, he blocked Ferry's shot. ;)

I blame Wayne Bridge.

I seem to have totally missed this fixture...

Okay Southend, bit of a typo there.  I am just saying I believe Lescinel is the weakest link in our team and I would ask anyone to tell me who is weaker than him in our team? hes still defensively vulnerable and his positional sense is poor in my opinion.  If every time you are critical of a player you are making them a scapegoat its a bit of a joke, stop being so touchy I don't boo Lescinel or shout abuse at him but I will acknowledge after a game if I feel he should of picked up the man who scored.

I'd say Ward at the moment, which also impacts JFL. Everyone used to go on about McNamee not tracking back and Ward is just as bad if not worse. JFL doesn't push forward anywhere near as much as Amankwaah, who knows he can go forward and McGovern will be covering him.

I'm not saying Ward is crap, in fact I'd probably go with him ahead of any of the other options for left midfield. Except for when Sheehan is fit and then I'd go with him and JFL one way round or the other - giving JFL a run in left midfield has to be worth a go and could work out really well.

I agree, but it has to be said that if you put Lescinel into a Swindon team from 99-2002, or 2005-06 then he would not have been one of our worst players. In fact he might have been one of our better players in those teams.

His main downfall does seem to be his positional sense and Wilson can coach that into him. He's strong, fast, comfortable on the ball, decent going forward.

This. Oh and the flappy moments as well. He's a bit like Jerel actually in the sense that you know there is a flappy moment coming every game but it's a case of whether it will cost us a goal or not.

I was going to say Lesc is only young but Amankwaah is only a year or so older so can't use that one.

He doesn't seem to have had a lot of experience though so seems as though he just needs some good coaching coupled with match time to work on his weaknesses as I think he has the potential to be a great player.

By the way, a few people are saying that they players were pretty hurt by the boo's at full time. We havnt lost at home for almost 4 months now.

Yet again we outplayed a team above us in the league. Some fans need to have a word with themselves.

Also has to be said that the quality of our support off the pitch this season has not matched the quality of the players on the pitch.

Jonny you were talking a little bit of sense till you claimed Ward was worse at covering than McNamee.

That has to be one of the most rubbish statements in TEF history.

Exaclty. Manks has been in the lower leagues for some time now and has played for about 5 clubs at this level.

I agree with this, Ward works back all of the time.  How many last ditch slide tackles has he won tracking back an over lapping full back.  This argument of Jonny's may actually work if he can give an example of a full back thats causes us real problems over lapping.  For what its worth if hes trying to blame a midfielder for not covering for the Charlton goal then surely it should be our holding midfield (Douglas) or our other centre midfielder (Ferry) to expect a winger to track back when the defence shuffles along like that is pretty tough going.  He would have to be very deep at the start of there attack.  I just look at the goal on the TV and Lescinel seems to be ball watching he wanders aimlessly in and leaves his man completely free so the blame lies with him for me.

I have only seen the goal once, in real time at the game, so how I remember it might not be entirely accurate.

How I remember it, the ball went forward and Paynter stood still whilst Sodje go in front of him to head the ball forward. First mistake letting any player have a free header.

The header then went between Amankwaah and Cuthbert, so Cuthbert moved across, so Greer moved across to LFJ tucked in - happy enough with that.

Its at this point you expect Ward to cover the full back position, which he usually does brilliantly and all the time, infact its probably whats impressed me most about him, however he didnt get back on this occasion. Another mistake.

Last of all Baily the goal scorer was playing in the middle for Chartlon and ran through to the edge of our penalty box with no one around him, one of the midfielders should have been tracking him. Third misake.

If the midfield have already got men to mark, then they need to let Ward know a man is coming over, the same way that if the defence is moving across as a unit then LJF needs to tell Ward to tuck in. Sometimes its not always that obvious and sometimes people need telling.

I know we have let in alot of late goals and I dont for one second buy the fitness excuse, nor the concentration one much.

The reason its the so late in the game is because the other team have nothing to lose and go for it. Charlton attacked more in the last 10 plus stoppage time than they had the rest of the game and I thought the looked good doing in. If I were a Charlton fan i'd be questioning why the team didnt attack like that from the off.

Theres no blame for me...it was a quality finish...just like our goal...why has there always a fall guy?
JFL  had a good game Saturday....you blame the whole team surely unless its a total individual error....we had chances to make it 2-0,we didnt and we got punished.
As for Ward hes been brilliant...Macca worked hard at covering but Wards done brilliant going forward...he bulllys defenders.

I personally think it was an individual error by LJF, he switched off ball watching. I don't mean that in a getting on his back way either, its just looked like what happened  to me.

It wasn't like it wasn't coming though. As a team we got pushed back and couldn't keep hold of the ball.

[quote I know we have let in alot of late goals and I dont for one second buy the fitness excuse, nor the concentration one much..
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Wilson demands increased concentration
Posted on: Mon 08 Feb 2010



Danny Wilson admits there is little that can be said to help eradicate the late goal curse that has seen Town drop four points in the last two League One fixtures.

Wilson's side have squandered 2-0 and 1-0 leads in clashes with Southend and Charlton respectively over the last two weekends, and the manager believes the problem can be attributed to just one thing:

"It's concentration, that's all it is




DW buys it Dave

south oxfordhire reds banner in bbc highlights :)

If we killed teams off with our chances it wouldn't happen.

yep