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Title: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:07:27
Ok so this is what we have for next season so far....

David Lucas
Phil Smith
Hasney Aljofree
Kevin Amankwaah
Yinka Casal
Jerel Ifil
Lecsinel Jean-Francois
Gordan Greer
Sean Morrison
Alan OBrien
Jon Paul McGovern
Macca
Michael Timlin
Lee Peacock
Craig Easton
Billy Paynter
Mark Marshall
Lloyd Macklin


Thats 17, who have I missed? Also what positions do you feel we need strengthening? Obviously we need a striker. Anywhere else you feel is weak?




Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:09:14
Take Kanyuka off he's gone.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:09:55
Ok thats 16. Who have I missed?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:10:31
Marshall ?,  


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:12:03
Marshall now added and Kanyuka took off.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:12:33
Macklin?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:14:34
Ok so this is what we have for next season so far....

David Lucas
Phil Smith
Hasney Aljofree
Kevin Amankwaah
Yinka Casal
Jerel Ifil
Lecsinel Jean-Francois
Gordan Greer
Sean Morrison
Alan OBrien
Jon Paul McGovern
Macca
Michael Timlin
Lee Peacock
Craig Easton
Billy Paynter
Mark Marshall
Lloyd Macklin


Thats 17, who have I missed? Also what positions do you feel we need strengthening? Obviously we need a striker. Anywhere else you feel is weak?




I have to say that's a weak looking squad so far


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:14:42
Added Macklin.



Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:15:51
We need 2 strikers I'd say, looks very weak.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:16:57
If Marshall, macklin, or casal are anywhere near our team we will be in trouble!!! Technically there is Kennedy, Hammonds and Thompson as well.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:18:54
Callum Kennedy is our 1st choice left back at the moment by default!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:19:47
We need a left back, 2 strikers, a decent strong central midfilder.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:22:22
I think we need a left and right back, a centre mid, 2 forwards and maybe another winger, as i dont think Macklin or Marshall are good enough.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:28:00
I think we need a Left Back, 2 Strikers and 2 Midfielders, one more defensive to replace the role that Kanyuka filled and one more box to box attacking midfielder just in case Easton does not regain his form of 2 years ago, maybe one midfielder in on loan but the others I would prefer to be permanent.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:28:15
Good point, Amankwaah isn't the strongest right back in the world.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:35:49
will be interesting to see how much of the cox money goes into the squad.currently which is weaker than last year


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:38:40
as mentioned in two other threads. some of it has been already. we paid a fee for O'Brien apparently


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:44:23
i thought he was released,making him a free agent?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:44:31
How old is he? If he's 24 or under don't we have to go to a tribunal?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:44:32
I thought OBrien was a free agent??


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:46:19
He was released wasn't he?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:54:54
according to AF interview on bbc sport he was released to come to use. indicating we paid a fee


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:57:01
His contract ended at Hibs on 30th June.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:58:58
i'm only going by words said by fitton himself. he was released to come to use


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:01:26
if he cost money, why not just say we bought him?
from what i've read he wasn't wanted anymore,and was released.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:03:21
thats what i thought too.

listen to this and make of it what you will.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/8124817.stm


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:08:48
thats what i thought too.

Unless Fitton is just talking about a signing on fee.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:09:29
  Judging by the reactions on this post, I think that the penny has dropped with a few, that without probably 4, if not 5 quality players for this league, then we're in a bit of trouble.

 Still time though so no need to panic just yet.

 I think Paynter will be a  key figure, I suspect Wilson might see him as the man who can up his scoring rate and replace some of Cox's goals.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: alanmayes on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:15:25
  Judging by the reactions on this post, I think that the penny has dropped with a few, that without probably 4, if not 5 quality players for this league, then we're in a bit of trouble.

 Still time though so no need to panic just yet.

 I think Paynter will be a  key figure, I suspect Wilson might see him as the man who can up his scoring rate and replace some of Cox's goals.

I think there have been quite a few of us who have felt 'concerned' but with the air of optimism
from fans and from the club,we haven't wanted to say too much.

We can still bring some decent players in and as i've said before,we may have to look at the
loan market.I've suggested the striker Obika from Spurs who was on loan at Yeovil and i hope
that we can get HRK back from Reading.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:16:03
 

 I think Paynter will be a  key figure, I suspect Wilson might see him as the man who can up his scoring rate and replace some of Cox's goals.

God help us!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Doore on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:17:28
Still quite early days remember.  This often happens at a lot of clubs - we could yet see a few signings later in the month.  Do we want the quick signings or the right ones?

Patience really is a virtue.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:20:57
Wilson does keep hinting that he is prepared to let a few go aswell


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:22:30
I think JPM, Casal, Marshall, Peacock and for the right money Morrison could all be sold if the right offers came in.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Doore on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:24:31
I think JPM, Casal, Marshall, Peacock and for the right money Morrison could all be sold if the right offers came in.

Agreed - but apart from Morrison and possibly JPM, which of those is likely to attract any bids at all? 


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:24:56
Unless some of our youngsters come good, i mean really good.

Still...

Phil Smith

Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Gordon Greer
Hasney Aljofree

JP McGovern
Craig Easton
Michael Timlin
Anthony McNamee

Billy Paynter
Lee Peacock (through default. I'd rather see him as a midfielder)

Is a decent enough 1st 11 for this level anyway. That team would be mid table comfortably.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:27:54
Isn't that starting XI the same team that almost got us relegated, with the exception of not including the man whose goals who saved us?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:29:48
If Peacock plays more than 10 games i will stroke his nuts


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:30:31
Unless some of our youngsters come good, i mean really good.

Still...

Phil Smith

Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Gordon Greer
Hasney Aljofree

JP McGovern
Craig Easton
Michael Timlin
Anthony McNamee

Billy Paynter
Lee Peacock (through default. I'd rather see him as a midfielder)

Is a decent enough 1st 11 for this level anyway. That team would be mid table comfortably.

I'd play Obrien instead of Macca and Lucas rather than Smith.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: alanmayes on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:32:23
In our current state this is very much where the Transfer Window counts against clubs like
ourselves,who want to really reshape the squad with better players coming in.It used to be
the case that a manager could build,bring in and release players over the course of the season.

With the window he's left with little time and as a result we're inevitably competing with other
clubs for any players of quality.It's also much harder to get players to move on.Huddersfield
the exception to the rule this close season.Judging by Fitton's BBC interview, Robinson wasn't
the only striker who's turned us down.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:38:08
Unless some of our youngsters come good, i mean really good.

Still...

Phil Smith

Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Gordon Greer
Hasney Aljofree

JP McGovern
Craig Easton
Michael Timlin
Anthony McNamee

Billy Paynter
Lee Peacock (through default. I'd rather see him as a midfielder)

Is a decent enough 1st 11 for this level anyway. That team would be mid table comfortably.
I disagree, that team whilst good in mid and def. will not finish mid table comfotrably. Where are we going to get goals from apart from Paynter?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:49:34
Isn't that starting XI the same team that almost got us relegated, with the exception of not including the man whose goals who saved us?

No.

Peter Brezovan played his part. Phil Smith is better.

We spent half a season without a decent left back whilst Vincent was injured.

Gordon Greer was only here for the last part of the season.

Aljofree was injured all season.

JPM was injured for alot of last season.

Craig Easton will return to form next season and be ace for us.

Of course the main factor is - next season we have a different manager, assistant manager & goal keeper coach who will get more out of those players above.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:50:42
I disagree, that team whilst good in mid and def. will not finish mid table comfotrably. Where are we going to get goals from apart from Paynter?

Of course that team will struggle for goals. We will add a striker or 2 to the squad im sure.

Easily mid table right now. I mean Walsall only have 16 on the books for next season and 7 of those are on youth contracts!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: newmarket red on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 19:16:18
Anyone know who the number 29 is in photo gallery on the offical is :)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: JPC82 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 19:31:30
Anyone know who the number 29 is in photo gallery on the offical is :)

Kurt Hammonds, had a serious knee operation end of least season


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 19:35:09
Saw him play a couple of times before the injury, he looked pretty useful, so hope that hasn't affected him.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 19:51:03
I'd like to propose the "fuck it, it can't be any worse than last season" formation;

GK - Lucas

CB - Greer
RCB - Morrison
LCB - Lescinel

CM - Timlin
CM - Easton
LM - O'Brien
RM - Amankwaah
LW/RW - McNamee

ST - Paynter
ST - Macklin

I know Macklin isn't a striker, but he couldn't possibly do a worse job than Peacock.

Amankwaah and O'Brien should be able to provide extra cover for the 3 defenders.

McNamee can switch wings and roam at will, run from deep, have nose bleeds when he mistakenly ends up in the penalty area.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 20:22:31
Unless some of our youngsters come good, i mean really good.

Still...

Phil Smith

Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Gordon Greer
Hasney Aljofree

JP McGovern
Craig Easton
Michael Timlin
Anthony McNamee

Billy Paynter
Lee Peacock (through default. I'd rather see him as a midfielder)

Is a decent enough 1st 11 for this level anyway. That team would be mid table comfortably.

If you had all those playing to something like full potential, then I'd agree....judging by a lot of what we saw last season then that's a L2 mid table side.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 20:49:44
We need a left back, 2 strikers, a decent strong central midfilder.
What he said


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 23:57:45
David Lucas
Phil Smith
Hasney Aljofree
Kevin Amankwaah
Yinka Casal
Jerel Ifil
Lecsinel Jean-Francois
Gordan Greer
Sean Morrison
Alan OBrien
Jon Paul McGovern
Macca
Michael Timlin
Lee Peacock
Craig Easton
Billy Paynter
Mark Marshall
Lloyd Macklin

Yinka and Marshall will be gone, Aljofree may not even come back.  Lee Peacock may be a different player without the back injury.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 09:50:16
Unless some of our youngsters come good, i mean really good.

Still...

Phil Smith

Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Gordon Greer
Hasney Aljofree

JP McGovern
Craig Easton
Michael Timlin
Anthony McNamee

Billy Paynter
Lee Peacock (through default. I'd rather see him as a midfielder)

Is a decent enough 1st 11 for this level anyway. That team would be mid table comfortably.

What? You mean the same team that struggled last season before we got loan signings in? I know you have included Greer but still that squad is weaker than last seasons.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:02:50
Read on the Thisis site that Peacock is injured again. Wish we would just pay up his contract


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:05:38
Fucking waste of space.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: strooood on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:01:23
I'd like to propose the "fuck it, it can't be any worse than last season" formation;

GK - Lucas

CB - Greer
RCB - Morrison
LCB - Lescinel

CM - Timlin
CM - Easton
LM - O'Brien
RM - Amankwaah
LW/RW - McNamee

ST - Paynter
ST - Macklin

I know Macklin isn't a striker, but he couldn't possibly do a worse job than Peacock.

Amankwaah and O'Brien should be able to provide extra cover for the 3 defenders.

McNamee can switch wings and roam at will, run from deep, have nose bleeds when he mistakenly ends up in the penalty area.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Have you ever watched a football match in your life?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:24:17
Read on the Thisis site that Peacock is injured again. Wish we would just pay up his contract

nah.he has nice tattoos and the ladies like him.offer him a 3 year deal


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:51:32
Haha fuck yeah and a nice coat.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:04:39
nah.he has nice tattoos and the ladies like him.offer him a 3 year deal

ahhh but we have O'Brian now - he too has nice tattoos but is a younger model! - Not sure what sorts of costs he owns though? maybe someone could investigate?  ;)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:02:50
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Have you ever watched a football match in your life?

Nope, never. Not a single one.

Must have seen Swindon play a couple of hundred times, but calling that football is a bit of a stretch.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:12:35
What? You mean the same team that struggled last season before we got loan signings in? I know you have included Greer but still that squad is weaker than last seasons.

I already posted this, learn to read.

Phil Smith first choice on form = better than himself and Brezovan last season.

Greer in defence the whole season = improvment

JPM, Craig Easton & Hasney Aljofree fit for the whole season = improvment

Wilson, Shirtliff and Wood = IMPROVMENT Malpas, Byrne and Williams - cant you understand that?!?!

Ok, so we've changed the squad here and there but alot of the players have had us finish 13th and 15th the last two seasons. Some of you make it sound like we just stayed up and finished 20th on goal difference.

Wilson is a better manager than Malpas. Wilson will get more out of the likes of Ifil, McGorvern, Aljofree, Easton, McNamee & Peacock than Malpas did.

Wilson will do better with this squad than Malpas did. We will finish mid table again.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:19:27
I would be amazed if more than 2 of those players were in our starting 11. I fucking hope not anyway


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:21:07
Well be amazed then because we really dont have much choice at the moment.

We dont seem to be signing many players.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:25:28
Im sure we will Dv. Still quite a while yet.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:26:22
we all said that last season to


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:27:55
my mind hasn't changed from a few weeks ago.i think we will do marginally better than last year.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:30:49
Make your mind up Dv. Do you trust Wilson to do better or not


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:35:52
Make your mind up Dv. Do you trust Wilson to do better or not

If the season was starting tomorrow I would trust Wilson to do better with the current squad.

I maybe in the minority but I still think players like Aljofree, Easton and McGorvern are good enough for L1 and Swindon Town. They were good enough under Sturrock & his coaches but not under Malpas and his coaches. I firmly put that down to the manager and the coaches rather than the players.

Wilson and his coaches will get better from those players, so I do think we will do better than last season I would not have a problem with Aljofree, Easton & McGorvern being part of our starting 11.

However, the squad is small and pretty weak and we do need more players. Anyone can see that. I'm not 100% convinced we will get in many players or many players of a decent pedigree for L1.

If we were going to get those players in wouldnt we have done so by now? Robinson and Tudor-Jones stick in my mind. Players we were beaten to by other L1 clubs. My worry is most players dont see Swindon as an attractive club to come to.

I think we will do better than last seasons 15th place but improving on that and finishing 12th instead is really pretty pointless.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:37:05
One season doesn't define a career of a footballer so I am expecting significant improvements from several players next season and I think a couple will step up to the proverbial plate.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:38:40
i agree completely with you on this dv.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: newmarket red on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:52:59
A new stadium would go along way in securing new players im sure of it even though theres nothing wrong with the county ground.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:00:26
They were good enough under Sturrock & his coaches

That was the Nail, Hammer and head moment right there DV.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:03:06
Oh.

And I personally have a hunch that we may see the beast back to his best this coming season, some people seem to have a short memory as to how good some players actually are.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:10:59
No Bangkok i am realistic. Dv said they were good enough for a 12th spot finish then in the next breath said it was pointless finishing 12th next year. If ifil,peacock mcgovern and aljofree were out of contract do you think Wilson would of kept them?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:24:43
Ifil is simply a good player a this level. I would like to think that DW recognises that and would keep him to bring him back to life after Malpas killed him.

McGovern..... Dunno, what is he? Centre Mid? Right Midfielder...... He certainly ain't a winger and certainly not a winger that would fit in a DW team. Maybe DW would let him go as he just dont fit in the jigsaw.

Peacock...... Maybe DW can find a way to rewards peacock's good service to the club with a position as a squad player, asides from that he should be allowed to play elsewhere. Shame that.

Aljofree... I just don't know...


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:35:59
Peacock owes us BR. The worrying thing is i would hazard a guess that those 4 are probably amongst the highest earners at the club.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 14:38:52
My gut feeling is that Peacock will play a small part this season with few goals (if any).....he is considered a striker again, right?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 15:19:54
for me ifil is a league 2 player.if we are to prosper, i'm afraid he is like peacock ie not good enough


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:04:10
Unless we sign at least 4 or 5 players we're in for a hard season.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:08:53
Unless we sign at least 4 or 5 players we're in for a hard season.

These will need to be good players...not just any old shit.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: spacey on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:10:37
These will need to be good players...not just any old shit.

I wonder if Ralphy thought of that?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:12:10
Things are looking good - this is the worst pre-season mood for a few years!!!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:15:06
I wonder if Ralphy thought of that?

I assume not...otherwise he'd have mentioned it.  Last season when we needed players, we got Nalis, Casal and Marshall....instead of Mulgrew, Jones and Betsy.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: spacey on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:16:56
I assume not...otherwise he'd have mentioned it.  Last season when we needed players, we got Nalis, Casal and Marshall....instead of Mulgrew, Jones and Betsy.

Maybe he thought it was obvious enough not to mention. I've got faith in Ralphy.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:23:00
Oh yeah the great jones and betsy. We would of been championship now if we had got them


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:34:13
Oh yeah the great jones and betsy. We would of been championship now if we had got them

Think you miss the point...Betsy played 41 times for Sarfend...Jones 38 times for H'pool.

These are steady L1 performers....that is the sort of market we're in, when we end up not being able to attract players of even that quality, it's obvious we're going to struggle.

 

 


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: alanmayes on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:40:59
Think you miss the point...Betsy played 41 times for Sarfend...Jones 38 times for H'pool.

These are steady L1 performers....that is the sort of market we're in, when we end up not being able to attract players of even that quality, it's obvious we're going to struggle.

 

 
Reg,

Do you think it's just a question of wages that we offer or is there something more fundamental about STFC
that potential signings just don't like?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:47:51
I am not Reg but this year its just a case of better teams in for the same players


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:49:23
Ritchie Jones is one of the reasons I have faith with Danny Wilson. Plenty of clubs that are traditionally better, bigger and wealthier than Hartlepool wanted Jones and Wilson sold the club to him. I'm hoping he can do similar here.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:50:29
I get the feeling we are barking up the wrong tree, with the Douglas, Tudur jones type. The ambition is there to get them, but  i guess our budget dictates, we cant match the others. Soon know if we get in 19/20 yr olds from the ccc or prem, in the next few weeks, when other rumoured signings dont appear.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 17:52:06
Reg,

Do you think it's just a question of wages that we offer or is there something more fundamental about STFC
that potential signings just don't like?

I'm sure it varies from target to target, but whereas the previous Board would sometimes spend money we just didn't have....and so not be able to pay wages etc, the current Board quite rightly in my opinion, stick to strict budgets.  This does mean though we can't attract the standard of player the manager would like, which makes the job more difficult..not impossible though.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 18:01:04
Over 4 weeks to the season, cant understand the panic.  If its still the same in 2 weeks I will happily join the doom merchants but for now I will stick to optimism and the crazy belief that another 2 players will sign tomorrow before heading on tour with the rest of the squad.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 18:02:05
Although I am not personally panicing, I can understand why some are because we were saying the exact same thing this time last year regarding transfers.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: alanmayes on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 18:05:16
I don't think that anyone is yet panicking,it's just that we're becoming a bit concerned.
The club may have to lower their sights and also look at the loan market,which incidentally
i see that Leeds are also thinking of doing.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Doore on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 18:37:35
I think we are in the same situation as a lot of clubs.  We all know we have areas of the squad that need strengthening, but there are only so many players available.  The board and manager have obviously agreed that we will only sign players who:

a) we can afford; and
b) are an improvement on the players we already have.

There is just not a huge resource of available players out there who meet that criteria.  Throw in the competition from tens of other clubs in similar situations and its not really suprising that we've not signed loads of players.  We've brought three in so far, and we probably will get another couple in by the start of the season.  Let's be patient, I think we are in for a long-term rebuilding process rather than a one season quick fix.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 19:46:15
  Let's be patient, I think we are in for a long-term rebuilding process rather than a one season quick fix.

 I think in the present day game...it more or less has always to be the quick fix. By which I mean, firstly if you get a decent player, then as with Cox you have to sell them and secondly you can only afford to tie up a select few players on longish contracts and they clog up the system if you want rid of them further down the line...eg Aljofree, McGovern, Peacock.

League position will dictate, as it did last season, that the panic button is pressed, the manager is sacked, and some loans are brought in to paper over the cracks.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 10, 2009, 06:35:16
  The acquisition of Douglas, is definitely more like it...another 2 or 3 especially up front, and things will start to look altogether rosier.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 06:53:52
2 strikers, 2 full backs maybe?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: nevillew on Friday, July 10, 2009, 06:57:24
I think in the present day game...it more or less has always to be the quick fix. By which I mean, firstly if you get a decent player, then as with Cox you have to sell them and secondly you can only afford to tie up a select few players on longish contracts and they clog up the system if you want rid of them further down the line...eg Aljofree, McGovern, Peacock.

League position will dictate, as it did last season, that the panic button is pressed, the manager is sacked, and some loans are brought in to paper over the cracks.


Seems to be an accurate, if slightly depressing model for lower division football these days, which is presumably why we have chosen the youth development version. I'd say you had to be a consitent mid table or above championship outfit before a change in this philosophy could be considered.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: stfctownenda on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:42:00
After delivering Douglas I think most can now accept this is nothing like last summer when Malpas delivered Nalis, Marshall and Casal where as Wilson has delivered Lucas, Greer and Douglas.  We get 2 quality strikers and a good full back and we will challenge at the right end of the table this season.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:56:36
Wilson has delivered Lucas, Greer and Douglas. 

Not forgetting our other Irish international Alan OBrien!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:01:53
I'd be happy to move timlin to left back and have douglas and easton in centre mid aslong as eason shows the quality he had when he started at town, and then one of the yoofs as backup.

still agree we need 1 or 2 strikers and a fullback


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:11:50
With no-one else coming in, we can still field a have decent side that could in my opinion finish mid table.

......................Lucas
Amankwaah..Greer..Morrison..Timlin/Aljofree
O'Brien..Douglas..Easton/Timlin..McNamee
.................Paynter..Peacock

That's not including Ifil, McGovern and Phil Smith who could all do a job.

I expect they'll be a few more in, so things are looking good I think.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:24:04
McGovern would be in my team ahead of McNamee, purely on his all round game being better and the fact he can defend and help his full back. We will not score goals with that front pairing, think how much Peacock struggled in league two when upfront, but lets wait and see who comes in, is it too much to ask for another signing today?

We need a couple of full backs, one left sided and heopefully one that can play either side (still think we could have kept smith) as neither Timlin nor Aljofree is a full back, and i reckon Aljofree and Greer will be the regualr partnership when they are both fit.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:26:22
McGovern would be in my team ahead of McNamee, purely on his all round game being better and the fact he can defend and help his full back. We will not score goals with that front pairing, think how much Peacock struggled in league two when upfront, but lets wait and see who comes in, is it too much to ask for another signing today?

We need a couple of full backs, one left sided and heopefully one that can play either side (still think we could have kept smith) as neither Timlin nor Aljofree is a full back, and i reckon Aljofree and Greer will be the regualr partnership when they are both fit.
Towards the end of the season Macca's tracking back was superb and i even saw him win a header.I think i am right in saying that he was our highest assist player last year.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:36:05
The highest assist stat is true, but then the year we let Zaaboub go he created a very similar number of goals and was top of the list and the fans didn't like him as much as they do McNamee. I just think he is over rated on the basis of some step overs, and that he general poor defensive play, his physical weakness and lack of stamina makes him a luxury, unless we can get a rock solid left back in who doesn't need the defensive help.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:46:04
Macca plays well from August-October, and from March onwards, we should stick him in storage for the winter.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:46:14
As i said though Wilson seemed to instill a defensive side to him towards the end of the season.Lets see how they work on him in the summer


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 10, 2009, 08:52:15
Happy with the signings to date - well done DW and board.

Personally I would like to see us signing a really good, creative attacking midfielder, another couple of wingbacks and 2 strikers. If we can continue signing quality like Douglas then I think we could be in for a good season.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jimbob on Friday, July 10, 2009, 09:10:22
I don't think we should be worrying about Macca's inability to defend as long as we have a decent left back in place. DW has said that O'Brien is good defensively, as is Douglas and Timlin and Easton (on their day), so as long as we have the understanding and capability to shuffle a bit if we're under a bit of pressure, we shouldn't be using Macca to defend anyway...Coxy would have had another 5 goals last year, if he didn't have to use up some of his energy putting defenders under pressure...on the flip-side, guess thats why we loved him.....damn that man ;-)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Doore on Friday, July 10, 2009, 10:45:04
Douglas seems a great signing to me, and I'll say it again, if we are patient, we will probably see a couple more decent signings.  The wasn't, and still isn't, any need to panic.  The right signings take time.  People were bemoaning missing out on OTJ, but have we not just signed a far superior player?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: stfctownenda on Friday, July 10, 2009, 10:46:31
Douglas seems a great signing to me, and I'll say it again, if we are patient, we will probably see a couple more decent signings.  The wasn't, and still isn't, any need to panic.  The right signings take time.  People were bemoaning missing out on OTJ, but have we not just signed a far superior player?

Agreed with this post, I am more than happy to be patient as Wilson keeps getting the right players.  I don't think he has made a poor signing since joining us.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:31:23
Happy with the signings to date - well done DW and board.

Personally I would like to see us signing a really good, creative attacking midfielder, another couple of wingbacks and 2 strikers. If we can continue signing quality like Douglas then I think we could be in for a good season.

With Douglas in there now is there any chance that JPM could move into the middle?  He's not looked to be the right player for a CM birth before but that extra bite in there his vision might be a good foil for Douglas.

I'm not saying this would deffo work but it's more likely to now i think.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:33:38
With no-one else coming in, we can still field a have decent side that could in my opinion finish mid table.

......................Lucas
Amankwaah..Greer..Morrison..Timlin/Aljofree
O'Brien..Douglas..Easton/Timlin..McNamee
.................Paynter..Peacock

That's not including Ifil, McGovern and Phil Smith who could all do a job.

I expect they'll be a few more in, so things are looking good I think.

You've missed out Jean-Francois....from what Wilson has said I think he rates him for left back.

Ideally you want 4 strikers, we've got 1, ergo this will rightly be a priority.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:42:33
You've missed out Jean-Francois....from what Wilson has said I think he rates him for left back.

Don't forget Kennedy either, its possible that between them Wilson thinks left back is sorted.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:47:15
Don't forget Kennedy either, its possible that between them Wilson thinks left back is sorted.

I haven't, I've defended him from the TEF boo boys before now.  :)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:55:16
Or we could sign a new Rb and play anankwah on the left.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:30:54
Ok so this is what we have for next season so far....

David Lucas, Phil Smith
Hasney Aljofree, Kevin Amankwaah, Yinka Casal, Jerel Ifil, Lecsinel Jean-Francois, Gordan Greer, Sean Morrison
Alan OBrien, Jon Paul McGovern, Macca, Michael Timlin, Craig Easton, Mark Marshall, Lloyd Macklin
Billy Paynter, Lee Peacock

When you add Douglas, Kennedy, Hammonds, Scott and Thompson to that list we're up to 23 players on pro contracts. Isn't that about the number of players they've said they want?

Obviously we need a couple of strikers but beyond that, will they bring more in without offloading someone first?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:35:06
Kennedy is on a pro contract??


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:41:41
Yep


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:54:10
Haven't seen alot of him but he always seemed abit lightweight.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Maguire11 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:59:42
my line up for next season would be

                               Lucas

 Amankwaah    Morrison        Greer        Lescinal

                               Douglas

   O'Brien                    Timlin              McNamee

                     Paynter        ???? (ideally a quick striker who is a potent finisher like simon cox)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 17:07:20
Kennedy is on a pro contract??

He's 20, so must have been on a pro contract for a couple of seasons now. Made his debut in the 07/08 season.

In the couple of home games he played last season I reckon he was looking close to being ready, at least worth being giving a decent run to see what he's capable of.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 17:15:16
Is OBrien naturally left or right footed? Which is his strongest?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 17:19:19
Left


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 17:24:00
So would you drop Macca or play OBrien on the right on his weaker foot?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, July 10, 2009, 17:27:09
Play O'brien on the right. They could always rotate


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Friday, July 10, 2009, 18:11:43
I reckon he might play Macca at home JPM away on the right, As Macca is clearly a homer, and if Peterboro is anything to go by 3-5-2 away is going to be used a fair bit.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 18:49:39
I reckon he might play Macca at home JPM away on the right, As Macca is clearly a homer, and if Peterboro is anything to go by 3-5-2 away is going to be used a fair bit.

He switched to 3 at the back at least a couple of times in home games towards the end of the season when he was going for a result. I reckon Wilson thinks Greer, Morrison, Lescinel is strong enough to play as a back 3 especially with say O'Brien and Amankwaah playing left / right midfield, even more so with Douglas in the middle.

I reckon the defence / midfield is almost sorted, maybe a left back but is anything else needed?

Better to spend what we've got on the best 2 strikers we can get.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: derbystfc on Friday, July 10, 2009, 23:46:54
The wingers will swap through the game anyway, Wilson did this a lot last season, and I can see that happening again.

We prob need to sign just the one full back (LB), and two stikers, prob one of these on loan. The squad then be fine, a good strong starting 11, with back up from a mix of youngsters (Thompson, Maklin, Kennedy etc), and expereince (Easton, Peacock, Ifill etc)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:38:15
Am I the only person that isn't filled with confidence about Kevin Amankwaah playing as a wing back.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:39:28
He wont though, if its a 3-5-2 it will be JPM, if 4-4-2 it will most likely be cuthbert if he signs.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:41:14
Cuthbert, Greer, Morrison, and we need a left back.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:42:26
I think we will probably see Awankman playing left back especially if we don't sign a new one before the start of the season.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:43:02
Am I the only person that isn't filled with confidence about Kevin Amankwaah playing as a wing back.

I don't want anyone playing as a wingback...don't think players at our level are good enough to play this way...it always ends up with 5 at the back.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:44:59
I agree Reg.

The only time I've seen Town use the system well is under McMahon when Paul Allen played as a wing back.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:53:22
I agree Reg.

The only time I've seen Town use the system well is under McMahon when Paul Allen played as a wing back.

The only time I've seen it work was under Hoddle, with Kerslake, then Summerbee on the right and Zippy on the left.

It was McMahon use which convinced me it doesn't work, unless you have someone like a quarterback as the spare man...someone like Hoddle.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:59:14
Oh I forgot Hoddle used that system, good point. Buzzer was immense I agree.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 13:04:35
Am I the only person that isn't filled with confidence about Kevin Amankwaah playing as a wing back.

Nope, I think Big Kev is the perfect player for a wing back.

I'm surprised last season we didnt see more of him down the right with Jack Smith at full back behind him


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 13:29:03
Nope, I think Big Kev is the perfect player for a wing back.

I'm surprised last season we didnt see more of him down the right with Jack Smith at full back behind him

No doubt linking up with his old boss, improved Amankwaah, it would be good if that carried on this season for a new contract.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 13:32:55
Apart from Huddersfield at home, he wasnt that bad to start with.

However our fans remember the Huddersfield home game where he was shite and none of the other games around that time when he played well.

He still did improve under Wilson mind you


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 13:45:33
I can see him being on the wing or at left back this season


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:16:22
You can now add Cuthbert to the list, maybe he will play right back and Amankwaah will play on the left?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:20:54
wankwaa is a sure starter imo.he went from utter shite,to a consistant performer pretty quickly.he won me over after i slated him.his form was the reason jack smith was shown the door i reckon.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:23:57
For once I agree with you arriba, I was really impressed with Amankwaah towards the end of the season.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:42:19
I've gone from panicking like fuck to pleasantly pleased in a matter of 5 days.

Just sign a striker!!!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:48:15
I can echo that sentiment, bar the fact i'm not worried about the striker(s) as the last week has proved they will come, and they will be a decent standard, of that i have no doubt.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:51:54
When does the Transfer Window close?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:06:14
When does the Transfer Window close?

31st August ennit?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:07:30
Yep.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:09:34
The wingers will swap through the game anyway, Wilson did this a lot last season, and I can see that happening again.

We prob need to sign just the one full back (LB), and two stikers, prob one of these on loan. The squad then be fine, a good strong starting 11, with back up from a mix of youngsters (Thompson, Maklin, Kennedy etc), and expereince (Easton, Peacock, Ifill etc)

Well My LB has been signed, now for the two strikers!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:25:15
I keep hearing rumours of Lita. Any truth in this?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:27:32
No.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:28:13
Just thinking out loud really, when you look at the new signings compared to last season's counterparts, on the face of it does seem quite good without having seen them play.

Lucas > Brezovan
Douglas > Pook/Timlin/Easton/Peacock
O'Brien > No winger


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:28:48
I think there will be another full back coming in still as well as the forwards.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:31:16
Wilson's just doing what we wanted Malpas to do last summer. It was easier for Wilson because he could get rid of a lot of players but the last few days really does make me wonder what on earth MM was up to.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:27:09
Have we any full backs?

I remember towards the end of last season DW playing 3 at the back. The way forward?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:42:34
We got 4 fullbacks


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:44:29
6 actually


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:45:32
Really?! Am I missing something then?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:47:51
Cuthbert, Lecinel, Kennedy, Thompson, Amankwaah & Aljofree at a push.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Doore on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:49:17
I think Aljofree would be awful at full-back.  Wouldn't want to see that.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:49:51
Are cuthbert and Lecinel centre backs I thought.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:50:56
Wilson's just doing what we wanted Malpas to do last summer. It was easier for Wilson because he could get rid of a lot of players but the last few days really does make me wonder what on earth MM was up to.

Did you ever listen to the bloke talk. Behind the lazy mouth Scottish accent, that he turned down to quite a low volume, he was usually talking a complete load of bollocks.

On the other hand, Wilson speaks well.

Agree completely about Aljofree. He is an average centre back, reminds me of Razor Ruddock when he was at Swindon. As a full back he would be useless.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, July 13, 2009, 21:53:43
He would be shit just saying we do have fullbacks.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 13, 2009, 22:04:54
Are cuthbert and Lecinel centre backs I thought.

I think Cuthbert is a CB/RB and Lescinel a LB/CB.

Pretty certain Lescinel has only played LB for us, and normally as part of a 3 man defence.

Given the amount of cover we have for CB, I wonder if Aljofree or Ifil could be leaving? Or Morrison?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, July 13, 2009, 22:10:06
I think Aljofree is a cert to leave


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, July 13, 2009, 22:16:03
I think Aljofree is a cert to leave

...if anyone wants him...


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, July 13, 2009, 22:18:22
I think Aljofree is a cert to leave

Where to?  I'd get rid now if an offer came in but he's not going to be fit until someway into next season and he hardly covered himself in glory last season.  

Realistically offers will come from L2 and I think he'd rather see out his contract here as a high earner than head down a league.

Notts County seem to be doing a 'bit of a Huddersfield' in L2, maybe we sould start rumours he's off to Crewe, Cheltenham, Lincoln etc. in the hope NC come in with an offer and the requisit wages...


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 08:51:48
Morrison is our only sellable CB, out of those that we have I would think.  Aljofree maybe peanuts to somebody.  If one is going to go I would have thought it would be Morrison, which would be a shame, but if it is silly money understandable.

Celtic are probably still sniffing, especially after the Cuthbert deal.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 08:56:58
Morrison is our only sellable CB, out of those that we have I would think.  Aljofree maybe peanuts to somebody.  If one is going to go I would have thought it would be Morrison, which would be a shame, but if it is silly money understandable.

Celtic are probably still sniffing, especially after the Cuthbert deal.

Sounds about right, I personally dont think Ifil will be with us all season and as you rightly say Morrison is a valuable assett and may be sold while there ares till suitors, but I personaly hope not.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:22:33
Morrison is our only sellable CB, out of those that we have I would think.

Why would you get rid of a decent youngster and keep (in my opinion) an inferior player such as Aljofree or Ifil?

You wouldn't. Whilst we might not be able to get a fee for them, if we can offload them and save at least some of the wages they're contracted for then we've saved some cash to use elsewhere.

I wouldn't be surprised if Aljofree and Ifil are already putting themselves about to find another club as I doubt they'd want to stay when they are at best 4th choice.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:26:41
The only reason you would get rid of Morrison and keep Ifil and Aljofree is for exactly the reasons Berni states Jonny....Morrison can commande a good price for his age..£500k+ with add ons etc. Ifil and Aljofree are available for transfer I would imagine but no one would pay a fee for them....hence Morrison may go before the other two due to his sale-ability.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:27:52
Also Morrison is effectivly a free agent in January


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:28:38
But I do think that Morrison and Cuthbert would form the basis of a strong defence for many years to come if we can keep hold of them.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:34:13
Morrison won't play 46 league games this season so we'll need suitable experience/cover in that position.

Wilson will probably protect Morrison a fair bit because being a central defender in the FL at only 18 years of age in tough.

However, we absolutely without doubt have to extend the guys contract whether we plan to sell him or not.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:43:25
Also Morrison is effectivly a free agent in January

We'd still get a fee for him though.

I still find it strange that he only signed a 1 year extension. Anyone know the reason?

Was it his choice or the clubs?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: girlyred on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:45:36
Well theyve turned down an offer or 2 for Morrison already but for sure if the money was right he would go, Everton wanted him up on trial early on in the year but DB was having none of it (good on him) and i hear there are a few other clubs sniffing around and will no doubt be watching preseason.............. :(


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 09:57:11
Newcastle and Celtic are 2 known admirers of him.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:26:50
morrison is destined for bigger and better things.just a matter of when.ifil and aljofree are going the opposite way.that said i think we could stillk see some good from aljofree,if he isn't after a move.not bothered if he is mind


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 11:08:46
The fact his family are/have moved up north suggests he will be off


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: girlyred on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 11:52:03
Arent they seperated?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:31:58
Shouldnt podge other players wives!! ;)


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:34:26
did he? his mrs is lovely.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:35:17
Im mearly passing on titbits of gossip - I will probably get told off for saying anything else!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:36:14
There seems to be a culture of this at our club.

Andy Gurney and Matt Hewlett spring to mind.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:36:50
no loyalty in football now a days


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:37:12
Its one big podgeathon


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:37:33
i think it was mentioned a while ago actually


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:41:04
yeah it was wasnt it - someone posted it then it got removed


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:45:04
You should write a weekly gossip page JFW on here to keep us up to date with who is shagging who and what Dick Mackey had for dinner.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 13:41:53
Yes because I know all these things?


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 13:47:05
Did'nt know Andy Gurney was giving Matt Hewlett one! Dirty sod.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 14:37:11
Yes because I know all these things?

Was only joking you stroppy mare!


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 18:10:59
Did'nt know Andy Gurney was giving Matt Hewlett one! Dirty sod.
Its a Brizzle thing.


Title: Re: Squad for next season so far....
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 16, 2009, 09:34:12
Shouldnt podge other players wives!! ;)

Confused here.  Is Ajofree or Morrison dipping his bread in another man's gravy?