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« Reply #45 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:04:02 »

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You don't need to be footballing genuises to pass the ball.  This is league 2 not Serie A.
Well, no. But have you seen anything so far this season to suggest that they can? I haven't.


The second goal against City.
One goal, WOW! I'm talking about a full 90 minutes here. At least 45 minutes then....
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STFC Village

« Reply #46 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:05:18 »

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Form is temporary, class is forever...
That made me laugh so hard, a bit of phlegm landed on my monitor
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DMR

« Reply #47 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:06:03 »

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Form is temporary, class is forever...
That made me laugh so hard, a bit of phlegm landed on my monitor


I'm going to have to hurt you on Saturday  :x
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STFC Village

« Reply #48 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:06:48 »

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Form is temporary, class is forever...
That made me laugh so hard, a bit of phlegm landed on my monitor


I'm going to have to hurt you on Saturday  :x
Good luck, i'll be at the other end of the country Tongue
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Northern Red

« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:06:59 »

For information, the last four seasons safety points:
2004/05 - 51 pts - Franchise
2003/04 - 51 pts - Chesterfield
2002/03 - 50 pts - Chesterfield
2001/02 - 49 pts - Northampton
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:07:15 »

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W2 D4 L4 in the league which would get us relegated. I think it's a fucking shame if we don't bring Cureton back to be honest but if not we must try and get a fair price for him.

Two points:
1. to be fair to Iffy the first two leagues games were right offs anyway - it was going to take longer for his influence to take effect. He only took charge 24 hours before the Doncaster game!!!
Realistically he's on a W2 D4 L2 in the league which is 10 points in 8 games. 42 points from 42 games sees you go down - he's scoring enough for about 52 points at the moment which could be enough.

2. On the Cureton point, money is everything to this club and we should be trying to get a good price, or just offload him for free (with success clauses) sooner rather than later - what are his wages like?


Don't agree with point one at all, those games were not right offs and I'd have expected a win against Franchise who were second bottom at the time.

I doubt Cureton's wages are that high, similar to Bouazza's probably. Probably not higher than average for this league.
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:08:12 »

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Form is temporary, class is forever...
That made me laugh so hard, a bit of phlegm landed on my monitor


I'm going to have to hurt you on Saturday  :x
Good luck, i'll be at the other end of the country Tongue


you're not going then... i'll have to have a word with whits  Cool
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:13:42 »

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You don't need to be footballing genuises to pass the ball.  This is league 2 not Serie A.
Well, no. But have you seen anything so far this season to suggest that they can? I haven't.


The second goal against City.
One goal, WOW! I'm talking about a full 90 minutes here. At least 45 minutes then....


My point is that we know they can play so why don't they?! The teams certainly capable of playing 'on-the-deck' football.
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:18:23 »

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W2 D4 L4 in the league which would get us relegated. I think it's a fucking shame if we don't bring Cureton back to be honest but if not we must try and get a fair price for him.

Two points:
1. to be fair to Iffy the first two leagues games were right offs anyway - it was going to take longer for his influence to take effect. He only took charge 24 hours before the Doncaster game!!!
Realistically he's on a W2 D4 L2 in the league which is 10 points in 8 games. 42 points from 42 games sees you go down - he's scoring enough for about 52 points at the moment which could be enough.

2. On the Cureton point, money is everything to this club and we should be trying to get a good price, or just offload him for free (with success clauses) sooner rather than later - what are his wages like?


Don't agree with point one at all, those games were not right offs and I'd have expected a win against Franchise who were second bottom at the time.

I doubt Cureton's wages are that high, similar to Bouazza's probably. Probably not higher than average for this league.

What I meant is that Iffy couldn't have ahd much influence on the team for the first two matches - it was effectively King's team that played - Unluckily for us we hit two form teams at the wrong time - Franchise went on a run and Doncasters run has just ended.
Okay we should have won the Franchise one, but Iffy could do nothing about Doncaster given only 24 hours...
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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:32:13 »

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W2 D4 L4 in the league which would get us relegated. I think it's a fucking shame if we don't bring Cureton back to be honest but if not we must try and get a fair price for him.

Two points:
1. to be fair to Iffy the first two leagues games were right offs anyway - it was going to take longer for his influence to take effect. He only took charge 24 hours before the Doncaster game!!!
Realistically he's on a W2 D4 L2 in the league which is 10 points in 8 games. 42 points from 42 games sees you go down - he's scoring enough for about 52 points at the moment which could be enough.

2. On the Cureton point, money is everything to this club and we should be trying to get a good price, or just offload him for free (with success clauses) sooner rather than later - what are his wages like?


Don't agree with point one at all, those games were not right offs and I'd have expected a win against Franchise who were second bottom at the time.

I doubt Cureton's wages are that high, similar to Bouazza's probably. Probably not higher than average for this league.

What I meant is that Iffy couldn't have ahd much influence on the team for the first two matches - it was effectively King's team that played - Unluckily for us we hit two form teams at the wrong time - Franchise went on a run and Doncasters run has just ended.
Okay we should have won the Franchise one, but Iffy could do nothing about Doncaster given only 24 hours...

You would expect a new manager effect, however you normally only get those if it was the manager that was the problem so no surprise it didn't happen.

Franchise had 4 points from their last 5 games before playing us, amazing form there. :roll: For their next 4 games they got 3 points, so their run of form basically consisted of playing us. Surely if Doncaster's run had just ended then we played them at the right time. Clutching at straws to be honest.

Anyway the point is I don't see any harm in changing the team, trying to it to work with Cureton, if it doesn't work then sell him but he deserves a chance now he's found form again.
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 13:48:32 »

Jan you are talking shit again. (As per usual regarding Fallon)

King tried to assemble a team with "footballers" ie Whalley, Cureton & Thorpe migz etc. However results and performances show that they basically were not good enough to get results playing in that style. The blend was all wrong, not enough aggression, power or pace in the side. Too many technically gifted players who were one paced and gutless

Happily, Iffy has realised this and has instilled more pace, aggresion and athletism to the side and we subsequently look more capable of getting results.

Like it or not we are in a dogfight now and most teams cant get out of it by playing pretty football, as confidence is low.

I'm no fan of hoofball either, but given the choice I'd rather us wahck it at Rory and get some results than fuck about with it with a bunch of one paced lightweights on the floor and lose.

If you are advocating a change to 4-4-2 with cureton to parner Thorpe, who the fuck is going to play on the right wing for a start? Mr "I cant Cross" shakes? or perhaps Mr "I cant be bothered half the time" Roberts. To a lesser extent the left is still a problem (nicholau looks crap and whatshisface from QPR is a bit of an unknown quanitity still)

And BWB, get over king for fucks sake. How many games have you been to under the Iffy regime exactly?
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 14:02:47 »

we should play 4,4,2 with cureton and fallon upfront.
cureton has gone away and found his form,which is what we wanted.as he is our player already,i dont see it as a gamble.
iffy should fuck roberts and thorpe out the door,big headed useless tossers
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 14:04:26 »

Basically, my math could be wrong, but we've played 20 games....8 under Iffy and 12 under Kingy

Iffy has got us 10 points in 8 games
Kingy got us 7 (which is three less) in 12 games (which is 4 more)

That was off the top of my head, but I could be wrong...

Thats also counting the Doncaster game as Iffy in charge, despite him only being installed 24 hours earlier, personally I wouldnt put that one down on Iffys record myself
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 14:05:12 »

i don't see the point in cureton coming back unless onuora is going to play with 2 up front every week. no point in bringing him back to play as a lone striker, may as well get as much money for him as we can while he's in good form.

if we do bring him back & he can't score again, he'll leave in the summer for about 10p & we will have lost out.
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« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 14:05:47 »

Who plays on the wings and supplies the ammunition for them then Arriba?
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