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« Reply #4890 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:25:12 »


No evidence whatsoever they have ignored the scientists- they set 5 clear tests for gradual easing of restrictions which have been met.

Funny that Sturgeon follows our lead within a few days of when we announce changes.

Not really, if you read their plan for relaxation we are presently activating what we would apparently be doing at level 1, by their own statistics we are quite the distance from that point.

As noted before whilst accepting that they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, its mainly of their own making, they were desperate for a good news story earlier this week, however the whole bollocks and sheer fuckwittedness of people could be countered by using the powers they have and closing beaches etc (I note they seem to be trying to now outsource this to the relevant LA's to activate - so another case of trying to push negative narrative onto others, no difference to the pubs closing fiasco), however that doesn't follow 'the worst has past' narrative they have created so instead we have what seems to be an essentially Sergeant Wilson approach 'would you mind most awfully not being twats'

Who mentioned Sturgeon, she really riles people for some reason, actually what has been more interesting is the way that Wales and Scotland have ben sharing a similar direction of travel on this, its gonna cost a fair few bob when he has to paint his air bourne mid life crisis appendage extension when the union has gone  Cheesy Wink.
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« Reply #4891 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:33:34 »

The easing of restrictions is not a bad thing - it can be managed.

The issue is relying on Common Sense - it's a fallacy. 

Its just another example of good old English exceptionalism, a lot of the population seem to have this  idea that we have this special sense that others in other countries don't enjoy, like we are fucking Spiderman or something. This is grasped by politicians as they know nothing gets votes greater than massaging the ego of the part of the electorate they are playing to, it sometimes fails and can be offensive, see Moggs comments on the victims of Grenfell and their apparent lack of 'common sense', albeit I am not sure, it may be that the voters the government were after agreed with that.

Sadly its all part of being governed by sound bites, focus groups and kite flying.
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« Reply #4892 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:45:48 »

Sadly if we think the last few days have been bad, I dread to think what the 4th July is going to be like if the weather is fine!
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« Reply #4893 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 17:14:01 »

Florida has just recorded 8.9k new cases today and had to ban the sale of alcohol at bars.  They were/are relying on common sense from people to prevail, it's not working out too well.  Bars are desperate for cash, so some will bend the rules.  people are desperate for social interaction and getting out, so will take risks.
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« Reply #4894 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 17:30:23 »

If the government had just been open and honest about going with the Sweden model from the start, I'd have been ok with it.

I'm convinced the official policy is still herd immunity, they just haven't made it public. Think of the outcry if they had.
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« Reply #4895 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 18:00:15 »

Ugh. I know everyone knows what you mean when you say ‘herd immunity’, but herd immunity is literally the end goal. The reason smallpox was eradicated was because of herd immunity

Herd immunity without a vaccine is the contentious point
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« Reply #4896 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 18:57:41 »

And Herd Immunity is a bet, on the immunity bit.  Not always the case, that having it helps defend against it later.  Evidence is suggesting it is temporary immunity in this instance.  Sweden is also not a flag bearer given their numbers.
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« Reply #4897 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 12:20:28 »

More idiots

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-53203765
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« Reply #4898 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 17:54:59 »

People with Covid symptoms increasing daily at GWH. No surprise really.
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« Reply #4899 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 18:37:19 »

Adver says Covid cases are dropping in Swindon

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18545992.police-enforce-local-lockdown-swindon-sees-covid-19-outbreak/
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« Reply #4900 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 18:53:39 »

If only the adver knew.... 10 cases today in A&E today.
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« Reply #4901 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 19:01:47 »

If only the adver knew.... 10 cases today in A&E today.

10 isn’t that many though is it?
When the only A and E’s in Wiltshire are Swindon and Salisbury, 10 is actually quite a low number. They were getting a lot more than that only a few weeks ago.
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« Reply #4902 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 19:06:04 »

I guess it depends on the last week or two 's tend, and whether it continues
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« Reply #4903 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 20:48:19 »

If only the adver knew.... 10 cases today in A&E today.

How do you know this, I can't see it anywhere? Not saying it isn't true just wondered where you saw it?
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« Reply #4904 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 22:53:29 »

How do you know this, I can't see it anywhere? Not saying it isn't true just wondered where you saw it?

My wife did a shift today. 10 may not be a lot, but that is just in A&E with new cases. It is slowly going up.
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