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« Reply #10035 on: Thursday, June 25, 2020, 16:09:54 »

And we keep coming back, then, to the inherent bias under FPTP against new parties, or splits.  It's a rotten system that could keep the Tories in power almost indefinitely...so they'll perpetuate it for as long as they can.

WE had our chance in 2011, Labour sadly chose to sit on the fence on that issue.
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« Reply #10036 on: Thursday, June 25, 2020, 16:42:39 »

Sad, I know.  The most effective way that the Lib Dems or the Greens, for example, could bring about an end to Tory government would be to disband.  That can't be right.
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« Reply #10037 on: Thursday, June 25, 2020, 18:28:13 »

On the Isreal thing, linking it to the Police in the USA, they get trained by all and sundry.  Each local force gets to choose it's own training and they have plenty of people in to teach them, there is an entire industry of people making money off of the Police.  That's on top of them hoovering up Military equipment.  In short, there isn't a nationwide standard.
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« Reply #10038 on: Thursday, June 25, 2020, 22:22:29 »

Yesterday the Tories voted against weekly testing for NHS staff and care workers.
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« Reply #10039 on: Thursday, June 25, 2020, 22:35:14 »

I am really trying to avoid social media re politics cos it is beyond depressing, I mean really mind fucking "if you have mental health issues avoid it" mind fucking (seeing my counsellor next week for first time in 3 months!)

But sometimes you get dragged back to it.  This is amazing - the Conservatives whilst voting down a Labour motion requiring weekly testing for NHS staff, they added an amendment saying how fucking brilliant the Tories have been.

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1276181783873290241

You.  Couldn't.  Make. It. Up.

I am trying to avoid political posts, honest.....
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« Reply #10040 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 03:27:45 »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/face-the-front-and-pay-attention-minister-orders-nation-s-children-mpq792shs

Tories taking England back to the Puritan Age? But who gets the role of Cromwell?  Hmmm
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« Reply #10041 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 07:25:51 »

WE had our chance in 2011, Labour sadly chose to sit on the fence on that issue.
That's true.  

However greater responsibility for the rejection of the a Proportional Representation system lies with the LDs permitting the Cons to put forward an incomprehensible version of a longstanding keynote LibDem policy.  A venal and weak Clegg was done like a kipper.

Had there been a referendum for PR that succeeded (or even had a sporting chance of succeeding) then the LD trade off over tuition fees may have been an understandable policy trade off by the minority coalition partner.  As it was, it damaged liberalism in the UK and actually set back the cause of fair votes.
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« Reply #10042 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 07:39:57 »

Proportional representation leads to minority governments, which means parties have to compromise and work together. Which for some reason a lot of this country believe to be a weakness
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« Reply #10043 on: Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:49:10 »

Proportional representation leads to minority governments, which means parties have to compromise and work together. Which for some reason a lot of this country believe to be a weakness

Indeed, albeit FPTP also gave us coalition governments from 2010 to 2019 (bar the short Cameron second term).
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« Reply #10044 on: Saturday, June 27, 2020, 09:27:05 »

This is one piece I wouldn't have expected to find in the Telegraph.  Disappointingly, there are no comments allowed below the line.  They would have been an interesting read, for sure.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/brexit-covid-19-set-collide/
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« Reply #10045 on: Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 12:21:00 »

So apparently most of the woes in the planning system and housing shortages are down to Newts, who would have known it!

Total bullshit with another stupid 3 word slogan, coincidentally delivered on the last day we can prevent crap/no deal. 
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« Reply #10046 on: Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 13:01:35 »

This is literally the only detail published today, FWIW there is nothing here that hasn't been known about and mooted for months and months.

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« Reply #10047 on: Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 13:30:36 »

Theresa May savaging Gove over the appointment of a political yes man with no experience to the crucial role of National Security Adviser:

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1277933918285692928

This govt is prepared to sacrifice everything on the altar of absolute conformance to Cummings' Brexit orthodoxy: our economy, our health and now our national security. The govt is looking more and more like the Trump administration every day.
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« Reply #10048 on: Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 09:37:16 »

I suspect there is going to be a fair bit of this in the coming months....

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1277505330885386240.html
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« Reply #10049 on: Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 09:48:05 »

Agreed although that story sounds very made up
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