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« Reply #105 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 17:55:16 »

I don't think it's pedantic to ask you who you were calling a rapist. Unreported rape isn't the same as being found not guilty in a court of law, is it?
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« Reply #106 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 17:56:41 »

I don't think it's pedantic to ask you who you were calling a rapist. Unreported rape isn't the same as being found not guilty in a court of law, is it?

Exactly the sort of shit a pedant would write.
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« Reply #107 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 18:03:25 »

Exactly the sort of shit a pedant would write.
Haha. Are you on your menstrual cycle?
or are you always a bloody cunt?
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« Reply #108 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 18:38:54 »

Haha. Are you on your menstrual cycle?
or are you always a bloody cunt?

You're ace at arguing, are you on Jed's legal team? They're always on the lookout for pedants who specialise in missing the point.
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« Reply #109 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 18:54:44 »

You're ace at arguing, are you on Jed's legal team? They're always on the lookout for pedants who specialise in missing the point.
you win. I haven't got the enthusiasm to argue.
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« Reply #110 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 19:03:22 »

That's a fair critique, and one I think you should email the board. Ideas about how to address this, also, I suspect, welcome.

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« Reply #111 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:19:45 »

It could and would have a much more influential role if some of those on here, who are equally passionate about the club, actually signed up as members rather than sniping from the sidelines

Whilst I recognise the continued work and good things those involved in the Trust do, ultimately it seemed like a membership of a political party rather than something I felt could grow and prosper and seriously have a say in running the football club. That's a snipe at everyone involved, including the current and ex-members and including myself (as an ex-member).

When I was a member of the Trust nobody sang from the same hymn sheet. It was divided and convoluted, basically because the Trust couldn't be seen to be the bad guy for the 'regular' fans. Luckily things worked out for the club in the end (at the time anyway!), but the Trust is playing the same acts out as it did before.

In fact the more I think about the more bollocks the whole idea is, or perhaps the execution. If everything really does start going tits up then I hope to hell the people who do have the bollocks will be more organised from the outset. It's an absolute farce that we all fannied about for so long in fear of x, y and z.

The Trust will never get as many as 1,000 members again. It's burned too any bridges it once built. It doesn't listen to constructive criticism it has received, or if it does it ignores it. It's got practically no credibility outside of the few who are members. Which is a shame because it can do excellent things for thinking of the stadium plans and work on obtaining the ACV. But run a football club? Please?

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« Reply #112 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:22:02 »

But it's worked at other clubs, so why is Swindon different? Genuine question
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« Reply #113 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:29:34 »

Surely Simon has already answered that question in the post you are replying to?
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« Reply #114 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:41:20 »

No, he's detailed why he thinks it didn't work in the past, I'm just wondering if, given the same approach has been a success elsewhere, he thinks there are issues unique to Swindon. As I said a genuine question.
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« Reply #115 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:42:40 »


but the Trust is playing the same acts out as it did before.

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« Reply #116 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:45:38 »

That's not an answer as to whether it's unique to Swindon, maybe let Si answer or not if he can't be arsed.
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« Reply #117 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:47:59 »

Christ on a bike.

You're a sensitive soul aren't you? I've not even been impolite to you.
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« Reply #118 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:50:29 »

Not really, I asked a question of another poster who I thought raised some interesting points. That was it
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« Reply #119 on: Friday, May 2, 2014, 22:53:35 »

The Trust probably needs a bit of a relaunch, but the idea is not broken and never will be.  And the way I see it, current events - where the Club is being dicked about by third parties with no long term links to it - surely point to the necessity of a unified body that the fans can get behind to represent their collective interests.

It's the 'unified' bit that's the challenge.  Strong, dedicated leadership from someone who lives & breathes the Club & the Trust is essential.  Someone with charisma.  Someone with a lot of time on their hands...which probably means they're unemployed, retired or simply an all action super-hero.
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