Vineyard Church

[Jamiesfuturewife]

At work we occasionally have baptisms in the pool so our pool is like holy water for a while after I guess??
These women were praying in the pool for this other women's poorly arm the other day right under the lifeguard car so hopefully all the good vibes went straight through me first?

[Arriba]

I wonder when people are going to realise that praying doesn't work?

[Flashheart]

I know a woman here that spends more on lucky charms than anything else.

She swears by them and is sure they work. The fact she lives alone in a tiny apartment without air-con is completely lost on her.

[chalkies_shorts]

I'd do the bitch mother for kidnap. What a fucking stupid cuntbitch trying to indoctrinate a 12 year old. As she tried to ruin your daughter I'd "borrow" her daughter and get her down the nearest Mosque for a few hours. This is so bang out of order.

[Barry Scott]

I know a woman here that spends more on lucky charms than anything else.

She swears by them and is sure they work. The fact she lives alone in a tiny apartment without air-con is completely lost on her.

The more you give to the church in life (buy your ticket to heaven, money doesn't matter, but we're richer than the lord himself) and in suffering in life and giving it to them, the lord will stop you burning in hell forever in eternal pain.

[Flashheart]

The more you give to the church in life (buy your ticket to heaven, money doesn't matter, but we're richer than the lord himself) and in suffering in life and giving it to them, the lord will stop you burning in hell forever in eternal pain.

Not even that mate.

She just genuinely believes they are lucky, daft cow. She also pays a lot to monks to tell her fortune. It's extra to giving merit to Buddha and stuff. The irony is of course is that she probably would not be living in such a small apartment and would have more money if it wasn't for the amulets and stuff.

Of course, these are monks that are supposed to live a life of poverty yet they are robbing her (and others) blind.

[ron dodgers]

at a family wedding a few years ago in an evangelical church - the elders described everybody in the wedding who wasn't in the church family as evil. Fucking hell, the resolutely Christian bride's mother was about to walk out. Now I can accept that I am evil but not the bride's family that was bang out of order.
So, on this and previous experience with evangelical Christians and Muslims (not Buddhist or Sikhs yet - watch out Jay Leno) they can fuck off and support Oxford.
Tolerance you will not find, in my experience.

[Simon Pieman]

At work we occasionally have baptisms in the pool so our pool is like holy water for a while after I guess??
These women were praying in the pool for this other women's poorly arm the other day right under the lifeguard car so hopefully all the good vibes went straight through me first?

Given the fact you're in a relationship out of wedlock I think you're fucked.

[Barry Scott]

Not even that mate.

She just genuinely believes they are lucky, daft cow. She also pays a lot to monks to tell her fortune. It's extra to giving merit to Buddha and stuff. The irony is of course is that she probably would not be living in such a small apartment and would have more money if it wasn't for the amulets and stuff.

Of course, these are monks that are supposed to live a life of poverty yet they are robbing her (and others) blind.

A mates missus, who was "spiritual" (a fucking dickhead) used to sell rocks that gave others various states of well being or happiness. She used to sell lots of them and from what I recall made a fair bit income. I don't know where the delusions end and the snake oil salesman begins.

[wiggy]

Ah well. Have had a long chat with my daughter.

Because her best mate and her mum are so heavily tied up in this it has been hard to talk about my reservations about the Vineyard without seeming critical of them, so my daughter has been getting very defensive about them.

Anyhow, she now knows why I am so upset and that she won't be allowed back there again, and she isn't throwing a pre-teen strop, so all in all about the best outcome I could hope for.

I still want to track the friend's mum down though, because her actions have been bang out of order and I don't want there to be any grey areas for the future - she has to get the very clear message that that there is no parental consent for this to happen again.

Sometimes being a parent sucks.

[leefer]

I am not religeous but love churches,like to spend time in them in total silence and let the history of who went before pass through me.
Also got baptised a three years back at he same time as my daughter and grandaughter...the three of us together in St Michaels at Highworth.
Churches for me are nothing to do with religion,though i fully appreciate for many it is.

[Flashheart]

Wiggy

If you think you need to, I'd still recommend watching Derren Brown's 'miracles for sale' with your girl. He's a charming mo fo that approaches the subject whilst not wanting to insult believers. She'd probably recognise some stuff that will open her eyes, in which case it will hopefully make her think twice.

Probably best to see how it pans out for now, but that's something that may help if needed.

[Flashheart]

I am not religeous but love churches,like to spend time in them in total silence and let the history of who went before pass through me.
Also got baptised a three years back at he same time as my daughter and grandaughter...the three of us together in St Michaels at Highworth.
Churches for me are nothing to do with religion,though i fully appreciate for many it is.

You'd probably like some of the temples out here Lee.

They are dead cool. Not as old as the churches and Cathedrals of Europe though (except from the ruins)

[Batch]

If they are anything like the HK ones, and I assume they are, they are quite impressive are them there Buddhist temples.

Here is the inside of Man Mo

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[Dazzza]

A mates missus, who was "spiritual" (a fucking dickhead) used to sell rocks that gave others various states of well being or happiness. She used to sell lots of them and from what I recall made a fair bit income.

That sounds a little like the Mother Superior in Trainspotting!